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13 Feb 2013, 8:11 pm

Any love for Community on this board? If you haven't checked it out yet, after a few so-so episodes the whole thing blows up into one of the most creative sitcoms you'll probably ever see. Think Big Bang Theory is the show for geeks and pop-culture references? Leave the lazy writing of the creator of shows like Two and a Half Men alone for a second, this is probably the ultimate love letter to nerd culture created by a guy who suspects having AS himself.
They're not just doing board game name-dropping and a Stephen Hawking voice-imitation, the show is total pop-culture insanity and at it's best more art movie than TV-sitcom.

And since Sheldon Cooper has turned into some kind of icon...I think Abed is the most sincere and heartfelt attempt at creating a comedy character with autistic traits so far. Just watch the first clip, in this 3-minute montage of one single episode the character gets more depth than Sheldon did in all Seasons together. I'm not big on the whole autistic pride-thing, but it's pretty cool they payed lots of attention to character development and also the more subtle details of feeling "different".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYhaTPg8lOE[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOOjRxGL9RI[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISEI9UN-RC4[/youtube]

Or simply put, the show kicks a**! They've spent a whole episode just playing D&D, one was entirely playing inside of an SNES-style videogame, another one was set in 6 different parralel timelines resulting in the creation of a Star Trek-like bad alternative reality including the stupid bad guy beards. If you like some more out-there comedy, you should definitely give it a chance!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5454eVld2hM[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE6kLeUG87s[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I_43IeRtr8
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13 Feb 2013, 8:31 pm

I made a thread here over a week ago and no one replied. It feels great to know someone else here loves the show! How did you like the latest episode? The "Greendale Babies" part made me laugh.

Next ep is about the gang going to Pierce's mansion during Halloween! I bet he thinks his mom and or dad is haunting him.



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13 Feb 2013, 10:44 pm

SpiderFan14 wrote:
I made a thread here over a week ago and no one replied. It feels great to know someone else here loves the show! How did you like the latest episode? The "Greendale Babies" part made me laugh.

Next ep is about the gang going to Pierce's mansion during Halloween! I bet he thinks his mom and or dad is haunting him.
I bet they are.



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14 Feb 2013, 6:11 am

SpiderFan14 wrote:
I made a thread here over a week ago and no one replied. It feels great to know someone else here loves the show! How did you like the latest episode? The "Greendale Babies" part made me laugh.

Next ep is about the gang going to Pierce's mansion during Halloween! I bet he thinks his mom and or dad is haunting him.


Yeah, nobody seems to even know this show. I mean there's nothing wrong with the traditional sitcoms like Big Bang, Two And A Half Men, Whitney and so on. They are funny at times. But shows like Community,30 Rock, Arrested Development and
Archer( if you haven't watched it yet, it's pure genius, best voice acting ever) are simply on another level in terms of writing
and creativity.
I won't hate on the popular multi-camera shows, guys like Parsons are great actors who simply don't get better materal to work with, but it's pretty sad that you can attract huge numbers of viewers by recycling painfully lazy jokes, while smaller shows that work their a**es off to create something new get ignored by a crowd that feels that dropping the name Stephen Hawking makes a show smart.

About the last episode, liked the beginning, Abed's thumbtack joke was every Big Bang episode put into one sentence. They did a great job with the multi-cam parody. Other than that it felt forced somewhat. I had the impression the characters "acted" like they're supposed to, but something was off. Felt too rushed for me. That's what made this show so great at times, besides the crazy stuff all the characters had much more depth to them than on any other comedy format.
And Now Jeff all of sudden wants out of the whole thing after he pretty much gave up his carreer in the S3 finale? Annie's back to being crazy about Jeff? Not sure what's their plan exactly. It feels like the new showrunners watched all episodes in a row and now they have to prove that they're just as crazy as Harmon was. This can't be good, they have to bring something unique to the table, because Harmon was most likely batsh*t insane, you cannot simply copy this.

But I don't know what to think of S4 yet. There were episodes that straight up sucked with Harmon in charge, too. Watching the first few episodes nobody would've expected the masterpiece this show turned into. So I'll wait a few episodes before concluding the show is dead. I really hope they'll pull it off.



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17 Feb 2013, 12:18 pm

If all Jeff needs is one semester of history the show will become a running joke about The dean keeping history full. What happened to the "movie" they promised us?



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17 Feb 2013, 10:08 pm

I love Community! It's a shame not more people like it, but I guess it's definitely not for lazy viewers who need easily digestible material like "reality" TV.

I hope they bring Chang back these season and I mean as*hole Chang, not seriously mentally ill Chang. Hopefully that's what they're trying to do with the whole amnesia thing. Personally, I would have gone with brain cancer. So it would be like, "Oh, he's not crazy. The tumor really just altered is behavior." Then he could get chemo and be a jerk to everyone. No one said all cancer patients had to be nice people.

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If all Jeff needs is one semester of history the show will become a running joke about The dean keeping history full. What happened to the "movie" they promised us?


Maybe Jeff screws up calculating the amount of credits he needs and needs to an elective or something?

To be perfectly honest, I'd be surprised if the show even lasts the season. After Harmon being fired, NBC postponing the season and the headwriter Megan leaving, it doesn't look good. Oh yeah, Chevy Chase left too, but I see that more as an opportunity to replace him with an easier going actor.



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18 Feb 2013, 5:02 am

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I love Community! It's a shame not more people like it, but I guess it's definitely not for lazy viewers who need easily digestible material like "reality" TV.

I hope they bring Chang back these season and I mean as*hole Chang, not seriously mentally ill Chang. Hopefully that's what they're trying to do with the whole amnesia thing. Personally, I would have gone with brain cancer. So it would be like, "Oh, he's not crazy. The tumor really just altered is behavior." Then he could get chemo and be a jerk to everyone. No one said all cancer patients had to be nice people.

Maybe Jeff screws up calculating the amount of credits he needs and needs to an elective or something?

To be perfectly honest, I'd be surprised if the show even lasts the season. After Harmon being fired, NBC postponing the season and the headwriter Megan leaving, it doesn't look good. Oh yeah, Chevy Chase left too, but I see that more as an opportunity to replace him with an easier going actor.


Cancer is actually not that bad of an idea. If the actor of Starburns wouldn't have left, they could've turned that in something like a Breaking Bad arc for the two. Doesn't look too good, for sure. I did not even know that Megan Ganz left, too. Read she's with Modern Family now, to leave for such a show probably means she was not confident about Community anymore, since she initially stayed after Harmon was kicked.

It makes no sense to get rid of a showrunner while trying to keep the show the same without an attempt to attract a bigger audience. So in the end it was most likely an ego thing of some NBC-execs without any purpose. I mean what do they expect? Dumb it down and you get Big Bang theory, doesn't work a second time. So the only option is trying to keep the small audience they've got, which is almost impossible if you get rid of virtually anybody responsible for the first 3 seasons.

And after 2 episodes, it looks pretty depressing to me. It's still better than most other shows, but nowhere near the level of season 2 and 3. Harmon originally planned to get away from Greendale a bit with his take on S4 to introduce a new direction for even more seasons focusing on the characters after graduating. That will probably never happen and the Jeff credit-thing appears to be a cop-out to kill off the show quickly.



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19 Feb 2013, 9:18 pm

COMMUNITY IS BEING SYNDICATED!

https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow - "Tonight: Jon welcomes Alison Brie from NBC's "Community" -- which comes to Comedy Central this fall. 11/10c."

This could be what the show needs to get a boost in popularity and get renewed for a 5th season. The future is looking bright!

EDIT: I should add that this is how Family Guy and Futurama got revived. Network sold off the rights to air reruns, the shows got a huuuuuge boost in popularity because they actually got to their targeted audiences on the appropriate channels and they both came back from the dead.



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19 Feb 2013, 9:50 pm

Pileo wrote:
COMMUNITY IS BEING SYNDICATED!

https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow - "Tonight: Jon welcomes Alison Brie from NBC's "Community" -- which comes to Comedy Central this fall. 11/10c."

This could be what the show needs to get a boost in popularity and get renewed for a 5th season. The future is looking bright!

EDIT: I should add that this is how Family Guy and Futurama got revived. Network sold off the rights to air reruns, the shows got a huuuuuge boost in popularity because they actually got to their targeted audiences on the appropriate channels and they both came back from the dead.


Sweet!! !! !! !! !! This chang was unexpected, but not unwelcome.

#sixseasonsandamovie



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20 Feb 2013, 8:39 pm

Let the show go or let Comedy Central have the show? Ill miss you brenna. That channel ruined stewie griffin turning him into a gay joke.



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20 Feb 2013, 9:31 pm

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Let the show go or let Comedy Central have the show? Ill miss you brenna. That channel ruined stewie griffin turning him into a gay joke.


Syndication means the original network sold the rights to run reruns to another network/channel. They didn't actually sell the rights to the show as a whole. For both Family Guy and Community, Comedy Central doesn't have any say in the direction of the shows. They just play previously made episodes. Think of it as renting, except the landlord can still run the show on their network.

And... did you britta Britta's name? >_>



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21 Feb 2013, 10:50 am

I thought last week's episode was an improvement, it was about time they did a scooby doo episode! I love SD, watched it ever since preschool.

It all worked very well but I didn't like Pierce's "Ghosts can't go through doors, stupid. Its not fire" to be very lame. It felt like a forced callback akin to what "Archer" excels at.

I hope the Inspector Space Time convention is a good one with alot of references to Dr Who (I watched one of the classic episodes BBC put on for its 50th anniversery, it sure was different back then). I wish they get back to doing school stuff soon, I want to see Malcolm McDowell be the history teacher.



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21 Feb 2013, 4:14 pm

SpiderFan14 wrote:
I thought last week's episode was an improvement, it was about time they did a scooby doo episode! I love SD, watched it ever since preschool.

It all worked very well but I didn't like Pierce's "Ghosts can't go through doors, stupid. Its not fire" to be very lame. It felt like a forced callback akin to what "Archer" excels at.

I hope the Inspector Space Time convention is a good one with alot of references to Dr Who (I watched one of the classic episodes BBC put on for its 50th anniversery, it sure was different back then). I wish they get back to doing school stuff soon, I want to see Malcolm McDowell be the history teacher.


Expect more rushed and forced content during the season. I've read an article where writer Megan Ganz said that they had to pack a lot of stuff into the few episodes left and are not exactly happy with the results. Apparently she had literally 24 hours to write Chevy Chase out of the show, also they had to edit alternative endings since NBC has no clue what to do with the series.
So NBC screwed up big time.

What I didn't like about the first 2 episodes besides the forced callbacks (Jeff killing Pierce's dad,Crisis alert tweet...) is that apparently a lot of running gags from past seasons get turned into storylines to somehow have enough material for all the episodes. Stuff like Pierce's mansion and Inspector Spacetime were always not fully shown and left obscure to the audience.

But now they've already thrown away the Hawthorne mansion as an excuse to pull off a haunted house story. The episode was pretty solid, but they've wasted a lot of potential since the house design was nothing special, pretty generic stuff.
So I'm skeptical about things like an Inspector Spacetime convention. The running gags worked just fine without showing everything about it, and I hope it doesn't turn into a "Nerds acting funny"-type of episode. Hopefully the season gets better with more episodes.



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22 Feb 2013, 10:23 pm

The latest ep I found to be very boring and meh. It felt like it just ran on autopilot.



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23 Feb 2013, 3:36 am

I found it funny and enjoyable. I actually laughed out loud several times. I like it how it's a lot toned down compared to last season and how they're acting like how they were in season 1 again. I found that season 3 made the characters almost cartoonish and the scenarios just outlandish. It definitely looks like they're going back to the roots.

It's working for me and I hope they keep at it.



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23 Feb 2013, 12:44 pm

I never thought I would say this: Better than Big Bang Theory.