The Walking Dead Season 5!! !! !! !! !! !

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I think that was just them trying to sell him as some sociopath because otherwise he would come off even more morally ambiguous compared to Rick's crew. It is pretty dumb when you think about how jarring it was to Michonne when she herself kept walkers on leash and she explained later that she discovered later on that it repelled them which also doesn't make a lot of sense but it is a TV show...

I understand your point. I think it's fine to concentrate on humans vs zombies in movies, but I still think it's a bit too limited for a TV show. I mean, just look at your own examples... they went through ALL those situations in just one season (or so). That sort of thing gets really stale after a while when you're dealing with the same characters week after week.

The zombies are still 'forces of nature' in the show, but humans are necessary for interesting villains... Even in the comics, Kirkman gave up on having zombies as the main threat about 3 years in...

I can tell you, if the series continues to follow the comics, humans will continue to be the main villains from here on out.

Sorry.

Well, The Walking Dead (tv show and comics) really weren't ever about zombies...they're about what happens when society as we know it collapses, and what savage critters we humans really are. Zombies are just a plot/thematic device. It's pretty inevitable that the zombies eventually become secondary, but it's not like they're gone. Hell, just 2 episodes ago a fairly major character succumbed to a bit.

As for the overall quality of the show, I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with it. There are stretches of freaking brilliance (the first half of season 4), but there are also some spectacularly dull stretches. The female characters in particular have been pretty horribly written in the past. A lot of the Lori hate came from how inconsistent she was. One week she's heavily implying to Rick that Shane needs to be taken care of, the next week she's in love with Shane. It was ridiculous. Andrea was always pretty annoying, and it was painful for comic readers who knew how badass the character could have been--Carol, who was a fairly unmemorable part of the comics, ended up taking on a lot of those traits. Michonne was a bit of a caricature early on, but she improved dramatically over season 4 once she got past the angry silent stage. As for Carl, he annoyed the hell out of me early on, but he's getting more tolerable now. To be fair I'm not exactly a kid person. And of course there's the people like T-Dogg, who never really get fleshed out, so we don't give a damn when they die. On a show like this, every death should be significant.

I still keep up with the show because there are times where it's just great, but there are also a lot of stretches where it gets almost insultingly dumb and heavy-handed, or just plain boring. I also try to not judge it based off the comics since they're so different at this point, but it does get frustrating how there are times where the show doesn't seem willing to go far enough with the premise. A perfect example is the handling of

At the end of the day, this is a HORROR story, and it's supposed to be bleak and hopeless. I don't know if it's the writers being scared or the AMC producers not allowing them to go to certain places, but at times it seems like the show puts too much focus on the action and gore and not enough on the true terror of what's happening.

Overall, it's still one of the best shows on tv...but it definitely hasn't lived up to its full potential.

Wrong. They didn't repel the zombies, they masked her scent/helped her blend in. Kind of like how they will occasionally cover themselves with guts to wander through a herd. There's a ton of dumb choices and inconsistencies on this show, but the zombie pets were pretty solid. Maybe they didn't explain them, I don't fully remember from that long ago.

but why don't they still go after her? it doesn't really make a lot of sense but regardless, the point was that she didn't even know it had that effect until after she did that so for her to pass judgement on the Governor because he kept walker heads in jars seems kind of odd.

I'd like to share an author's note from Robert Kirkman himself, the creator of the comic, who had this note published in Issue #1.

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Zombies have never really been specifically about zombies, the best movies are always about the people put in that situation. I watched the original Day Of The Dead again not too long ago and it's easy to see the parallel between Captain Rhodes and The Governor on The Walking Dead.

So Season 5 is really good? I'm late to the walking dead boat and just marathoned season 1,2,3 and I'm at the halfway point of season 4 but 4 feels like such a downer. I think two seasons in the prison was a bit too long maybe and I'm just ready for new stuff. Perhaps I'll force myself to finish through s4 this weekend, I'm really not feeling American Horror Story right now (but that could changed).


Oh yeah. If Daryl dies we riot.

Season 4 is a matter of opinion, I guess. I like the second half where we get individual time with certain characters.

If you get through that, be prepared for what's so far been a dark and intense season 5. It might be too soon to call but this could be the show's best season yet.

I wasn't really enjoying this season until last week's episode. I like it when they slow the pace a little and develop characters.

the hunters arc was perfect wasn't as good with out a specific blonde character though. she's supposed to be the sniper of ricks group.

not sure what to think of the new hospital arc its a cool new area and story, think they are doing some of the prison story light they left out of the previous seasons. which the characters present now are replacing was was supposed to be woodburry in the comics. not as cool with out the governor. but I guess its nice to split up the story a bit no real strong characters I enjoy in the hospital hopefully the main group story will start again tonight.

I'm liking season 5. Although I do agree that the terminus plot is quite a bit far-fetched.

The writing of Andrea's character on the TV show had too many problems from the start. I feel that the show waited too long to have her develop into a fighter. And while she was just getting started, Lori was getting on her too much about it all, and that's just because Lori had her head stuck up her butt. I didn't like how emotionally messed up they made Andrea after her sister died. I mean, I get it, but come on, there were just some moments in season 2 particularly where she was just being plain stupid, doing things that her comic counterpart would have been much wiser about. They MIGHT have had a chance to atone her character with season 3, but if you watch season 3...well... Like I said, too many problems in the writing of her character that even the Honest Trailer referred to her as: "the last person you want to be stuck in a zombie apocalypse with".

TV!Carol is no Comic!Andrea but she is a good enough alternative, especially after 5x01. We should thank all our lucky stars that they didn't make Carol like her comic counterpart cuz her comic counterpart was just a few screws loose of crazy.

both lori, and andrea were horibbly written, lori was a bit boring in the comics but not annoying, just a character. nothing remotely interesting, andrea is one of my favorites from the comics I love her character in the newer arcs shes one of my favorite fictional female characters atm, so I was let down by her in the tv show as well shes a bad ass in the comics idiot in the show. just bad writing and acting I guess.

andrea in season two was just really annoying and edgy, season three, I kind of liked her being shipped with the governor but she should have been a better character the writing was just bad. really liked how iconic the governors fight with the prison was, but tbh it wasn't as good as in the comics either, there should have been more casualties rick's side. it was insanely disappointing for me, even though I loved the governors story and arcs before it.

terminus was a bit over the topi its probably what they wanted for a big final and a big opening though. its kind of weird they are doing what was a prison story line just about after the prison fight the story going on now was supposed to happen back at the prison, guess it'll be more interesting now but I can kind of feel what they are using with comic and how they are changing it its nice fan service great use of the hunters they were so scary. the main actor was great.


you reading the new comic story line? I don't know what to think of it its interesting but its pretty slow so far a few big reveals world building and such. interesting but slow.



oh yeah carol is turning into an actually good character, I didn't like her in season one or two though just not much to the character.

I think the show struggles with is writing female characters, Laurie Holden's acting made you dislike her but she was acting out the the way her character was written and I'm not sure if they anybody would of made the character likable. She was bossy and a know it all despite consistently doing the "wrong" thing, they had her whine and self pity too much. Almost killing the most popular character on the show at the time out of just pure stupidity and stubbornness certainly didn't endear her character to fans either Holden's tended to overact too I think, when her sister died in season 1 it was just too much. There was just way too much melodrama in general in the earlier seasons of the show, I think it's hard not to focus on Lori and Andrea who were the primary source of that. Carl was not well liked at a time either.