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09 Jul 2020, 2:25 am

The annual qep'a', a late-July gathering of Klingon speakers at which Marc Okrand appears, is coming soon (although it will be virtual instead of travelling this year due to the COVID-19 crisis). At every qep'a', Marc reveals a new suite of words to be added to the Klingon language.

On the "chabal tetlh", or wishlist this year, is the concept "be autistic/aspie". If it's among the top-requested concepts, Marc will coin a Klingon word for it to be revealed on the 23rd. Guests are allowed to register at kli.org and vote words up and down.

How would y'all feel about Klingon having a word for "autistic"?



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09 Jul 2020, 3:19 am

conlags! cool...
it would be really neat to have a word for that, a lot of natural languages son't or borrow the english term.

as a side note i wish okrand had developed a different latin orthography that didn't mix uppercase and lowercase...it looks off.


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09 Jul 2020, 3:44 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
conlags! cool...
it would be really neat to have a word for that, a lot of natural languages son't or borrow the english term.


I agree with you, although the word is conlang, not conlag. Like language.

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as a side note i wish okrand had developed a different latin orthography that didn't mix uppercase and lowercase...it looks off.


It only bothers me when I have to remember whether the I or the S or the D is capital or lower-case, but can't remember.

Also, the I and the l can get confused by readers easily.



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09 Jul 2020, 8:23 am

I always suspected the word "Ha'DIbaH" would be Klingonaas for anyone who wasn't a "real" Klingon.



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09 Jul 2020, 9:45 am

Fnord wrote:
I always suspected the word "Ha'DIbaH" would be Klingonaas for anyone who wasn't a "real" Klingon.


Quite likely!

Defined as: "animal; meat; dog, cur, inferior person [slang]".

At the last qep'a', Okrand revealed the word qovIj for an actual dog -- or Kronos' equivalent of a dog. A Terran dog could be called a tera' qovIj.



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12 Jul 2020, 6:26 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
conlags! cool...
it would be really neat to have a word for that, a lot of natural languages son't or borrow the english term.


English doesn't have a word for it either and uses a fake-greek one....


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12 Jul 2020, 7:29 pm

yes it does, borrowings count as part of a language's lexicon

if they didn't, then i guess the 30% of words english speakers use aren't real english because they are in fact terribly pronounced old french.

or that every term for anything remotely modern in modern hebrew isn't actually hebrew because there was no biblical-era word for it when אליעזר בן־יהודה spearheaded the movement to revive it from an antiquated, liturgical language to a daily-use language in the late 19th century

can do this all day :P (sorry)


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15 Jul 2020, 10:53 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
yes it does, borrowings count as part of a language's lexicon

if they didn't, then i guess the 30% of words english speakers use aren't real english because they are in fact terribly pronounced old french.

or that every term for anything remotely modern in modern hebrew isn't actually hebrew because there was no biblical-era word for it when אליעזר בן־יהודה spearheaded the movement to revive it from an antiquated, liturgical language to a daily-use language in the late 19th century

can do this all day :P (sorry)


True. And Asperger's is borrowed from a surname from the German language (with an English possessive clitic).

BTW, that's a great signature you have, Kiprobalhato!

Also, the entry is here: https://www.kli.org/chabal/be-autistic-aspie/



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19 Jul 2020, 7:21 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
yes it does, borrowings count as part of a language's lexicon

if they didn't, then i guess the 30% of words english speakers use aren't real english because they are in fact terribly pronounced old french.

or that every term for anything remotely modern in modern hebrew isn't actually hebrew because there was no biblical-era word for it when אליעזר בן־יהודה spearheaded the movement to revive it from an antiquated, liturgical language to a daily-use language in the late 19th century

can do this all day :P (sorry)


And the other 70% are German.
And we all copied from the Proto-Indo-Europeans. I did struggle with Hindi pronunciation in India, but the grammar was familiar and some words were, too. Just the brahmanic abugida script that's not very phonetic is a bit of a pain.

I'm all up for considering English a pan-european creole language. (Creole as a linguistic term, a mix of languages).


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