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I liked the Doctor's response to thinking she was in labour... with a lost expression on his face he stuck his hands under her skirt, as though he expected the baby to drop then and there. Looked like he was trying to catch a base ball. I laughed myself silly at various parts of the episode.
I really liked this episode. I'm glad that Amy and Rory have a functional relationship apart from the Doctor. One thing that bothered me was when Rory was killed and Amy said "I never told him I loved him". But this was in an alternate reality where they were married and she was having his baby, and she never once said "I love you?" That's a bit ridiculous. But anyway, I like their relationship.
You all mentioned some really funny parts but my favourite was when they first woke up and the Doctor called the dream a nightmare. "Did I say a nightmare? No, more of a really good... mare". Although the poncho line was a pretty close second funniest moment.
Also, I seem to have missed the crack in this episode, or was there one? Was there even one last week? I don't remember. Oh no wait, I guess it was closed for a while when it ate the angels. I think.
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In Vampires Of Venice there werent any cracks shown by the head of the Calvieri talked about the cracks in her world that lead to other worlds and some to silence. Then there was the bit at the end where the Doctor 'heard' silence.
Not sure there were any in this one though probably cos technically none of it was real.
I thought there was a crack at the end of the weeping angels story... in the very tardis itself. After the Doctor hears the silence, he steps back into the tardis, and the camera shoots in on the keyhole, and we see light and space through it, then fade to the time vortex as the end theme comes in. So I thought there was a tiny crack... in a VERY bad place.
In response to the video... hmm I think you may be on to something...
Yes, there is a crack shown at the end. Except it was at the end of Vampires in venice... Oh heck I am such a geek... sorry
AND OKAY I will admit there were good parts to that last episode. I think I am quite torn as to whether I liked it or not though. I have a short attention span so I found it difficult to follow...
Um has anyone noticed I always put three dots after almost everything I write???
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That would be too lazy, as much as I would like the Rani and the Meddling Monk to come back.
Uh huh, that's why I hate that theory. I expect more from Moffat.
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I just said on another thread that it isn't pure sci fi. Although the basic premise is sci fi, I think the popularity of Who is based on it's appeal to other genres... I mean big epic genres. You have the hero myth, you have "romance" in the original sense of the word (think King Arthur rather than Romeo and Juliet), fairy tale, horror... pretty much every genre worth having has made it's way into Who. For example, the vampire episode was tremendously good sci fi, but it was also a horror story. The Weeping Angels are also very good sci fi, but they're also "Sidhe", or the stark and terrible originals of fairy stories (before the Victorians castrated them.)
And as for the Doctor... at times he's a cranky strange alien, at other times he's the Green Knight, the terrible lord who will not die.
That's what is so good about Doctor Who, it refuses to be constrained by conventions... even it's own conventions. I love it.
Hey... does anyone ever like those Doctor Who tribute things they do on youtube?
Here is an excellent tribute to the world's best villian.
He is the master, and you will obey him!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuMxbsz-O5U&feature=PlayList&p=4856F83A58B673BB&playnext_from=PL&index=22[/youtube]
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I loved the joke about the torches in that episode (Vampires in Venice). It was hilarious! There's something rather fishy about Rory... fish pun intended... Has anyone else noticed that there are a lot of fish being mentioned in this series? Strange!
Ep 1: Fish custard
Ep 2: 'There's a fish on the loose' and the star whale
Ep 5: well it's about a load of alien fish...
I think it is just a funny coincidence though, not a link to anything!
Well.. This is kind continuing something that was brought up a while ago and there's got to be some kind of pattern.. Especially when you add the duck POND, Amy POND, RIVER Song.. This seems to be adding up to a very watery series.
Also.. Next weeks looks cooool! Tardis on ice.
(Btw the torch joke seems to quite apt as the Tenth Doctor got nicknamed David Ten-inch) Hehe
Yes, I had noticed the Pond, River thing... Ice in the Tardis... ice is frozen water!! !
Yeah, my friend was watching with me and she said it's a good thing that David Ten-inch didn't pull that out! I think it was her who told me about it! Doctor who magazine asks Karen Gilliam:
Billie Piper nicknamed DT "David Ten-inch". Karen do you have a similar nickname for Matt?
KG: "Oh God! Um - "
SM: "I would tread carefully here"
KG: "I don't know! Although Matt did run around set in his pants the other day."
MS: "Yes. Yes. Yes, I did."
SM: "For a scripted reason! [To Matt:] Just go with my explanation."
Made me laugh really loud reading this (for our American friends, UNDER pants!).
Is the "ten-inch" thing a reference to the sonic screwdriver?
if so...... well Smith's screwdriver is even bigger..... yikes (I don't even know how the prop fitted into Tennant's jackets without a large bulge [which now goes double for Smith's prop and jacket], I can only assume very good tailoring of the jackets)
have really enjoyed this season thus far, except for The Beast Below, especially how they've had the darker aspects of the Doctor come out without the dramatic speeches and angst Tennant's last year (the specials), case in point, the revalation at the end of Amy's Choice of the dream lord's nature, meaning all that cruelty and manipulation and (self) hate came from the Doctor himself, and he doesn't do an angsty overdramatic speech about it when Amy asks him "but you don't actually believe all that, do you?", he just pauses for a moment and changes the subject
Oh, good stuff, very good stuff
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Amy's Choice seemed low budget, but I enjoyed it a lot. It was a great episode for character development.
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yep, there's a low budget episode or two every season to save more money for the season finale, but they're not usually as good as Amy's Choice, or very good at all...
s1-father's day, boom town
s2-love and monsters, fear her
s3-the lazarus experiment (possibly), human nature (pretty good, actually), Blink (very good)
s4-the unicorn and the wasp (a favorite of mine), midnight (another favorite, but for an entirely different reason
just looking at that, they seem to have gotten a lot better as the series went on
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I thought Father's Day was very good, and love and monsters as well... Fear her was the worst episode of Tennant's era, only interesting because it was one of very few stories in which there is no actual villain.
From season three on the low budget ones were excellent, with The Family of Blood, Human Nature and Blink being outstanding. And I absolutely LOVE Midnight.
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yeah, actually, the show really started to pick up in quality around season 3
like, blink possibly has no CGI at all (that I can remember, aside from the TARDIS dematerialising once) and only a couple of statues (people painted as statues, actually) as makeup/practical effects, and doesn't have the universe or the planet in peril, doesn't even have much of the doctor or martha, but manages to be possibly the scariest episode of the season
but Midnight was definitely freakier for me, whatever the thing that possesses Sky Sylvestry is, the real monsters are the people the Doctor's trapped with, this species he loves so much and strives to protect also has enough xenophobia and hate to try to throw him out the airlock in a fit of mob psychology, I would have liked to see him be a bit scared of humans for a while after Midnight.
I wonder if it's an aspie thing that I find that episode so deeply freaky, being turned on by the ordinary people around you because you're different and you can't socially engage them on a level that's comforting to them? 'cause thats one really important thing that a companion does, they can act as an intermediary and assure people that the Doctor's okay and not a threat to them and that he can be trusted
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That is a very good point about the role of the companion... the Doctor is alien, and needs an intermediary. One thing that struck me in the episode was that some of what they turned on him for is stuff that I've been attacked for in the past. In some areas I have huge expertise, and am simply far more talented than almost anyone I've ever met. (In other areas I'm all but a moron.) At previous jobs (this has happened more than once) I've had colleagues become very angry with me, and accuse me of showing off... for example, I've been accused of showing off when I spoke Russian to someone who had no English. They had been going to call for an interpreter, and I just said, "it's alright, I'll do it..." I saved them the expense of hiring an interpreter, but from that incident on I was treated as the enemy. Once at work I had someone say to me, "I suppose you think you're cleverer than I am?" And being aspie I just blurted out the truth. "Yes." I did not mean it as an insult, and if I could have called it back I would have done. But from that point on I wasn't just the Spock like nerd, I was an arrogant b.tch who thought she was better than everyone.
There's a scene in Midnight where one of the humans accuses him of just that... when he says he's clever, the woman says "you think you're better than us." He never said that, but humans (in this episode it seems NT humans) being what they are, they turn on him to tear him.
Perhaps Aspies don't do that so often, because we're not a pack animal.
On the other hand, and very movingly, it is an NT woman who sacrifices herself to save the Doctor. All told, this is one of the best episodes of Who, only for Tennant, but for any Doctor. Without the companion he is adrift.
You picked up a really good point, Dellingr.
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