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15 Sep 2010, 7:20 pm

Well the reaons I partly liked batman forever was becasue of the settings in a kind of futuristic gotham city. And yes it is quite a funny film with some very good actors and like i said tommy lee jones and jim carrey really were funny a team.

I do think there is something very addicting and timeless about batman forever. The way it is shot and the settings as well is not boring like nolans films.



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15 Sep 2010, 7:22 pm

Have you guys ever seen Groundhogs day? Yeah I feel quite a bit like Bill Murray in that right now...



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15 Sep 2010, 7:24 pm

Fine how about we change this into an intelligent debate instead of arguing like Batman like a bunch of Basement Dwellers...

Jamesy you argue like a Christian
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Actually you know what? Christians are better at arguing than you are.



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15 Sep 2010, 7:27 pm

Well at least batman forever is actualyl rewatchable.

Take away Heath Ledger from the dark knight and its a medicore movie at best.



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15 Sep 2010, 7:49 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Well at least batman forever is actualyl rewatchable.

Take away Heath Ledger from the dark knight and its a medicore movie at best.


Once again thats your opinion not a fact you moron.



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15 Sep 2010, 7:53 pm

Well whats wrong with cheap thrillers, and escapisim like past bat films?

Nolan has just reduced gotham city to a bland wasteland because he so obssesed with "Realism". At least gotham city had character in past batman movies.



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15 Sep 2010, 7:57 pm

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Well whats wrong with cheap thrillers, and escapisim like past bat films? Because they can't be taken seriously, the way they are set up as a campy comedy you have no emotional appeal to any of the characters if they were to die or if something was to happen to them because of the tone of the movie.

Nolan has just reduced gotham city to a bland wasteland because he so obssesed with "Realism". At least gotham city had character in past batman movies. If by character you mean obviously fake and annoying computer generated cities than sure Gotham City had as much character as Jar Jar Binks in Batman Forever and B&R



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15 Sep 2010, 8:04 pm

But do we really need a superhero movie to explore such heady, bleak and cynical themes rather than a movie with a premise maybe better suited to such themes, like No Country for Old Men? And of course some fans will respond “But T, superheroes are just as capable of adult themes as any other genre. Why can’t Batman explore these same ultraserious, depressing and high art themes.” To which I’ll again respond BECAUSE IT’S ABOUT A RICH NINJA GUY THAT DRESSES AS A BAT WITH SUPERTECH THAT RUNS AROUND KICKING AN EVIL CLOWN’S ASS AT NIGHT. No matter how much you lie to yourself, it’s simply not as high-falutin’ a setting as movies like No Country for Old Men or Sophie’s Choice. It’s a premise best suited for fantasy, escapism and cheap thrills. And there’s nothing wrong with that! You don’t have to reinvent it into Godfather II meets Silence of the Lambs meets a snuff film in order to prove there’s such depth and worth in the source material. Why does a movie about freaking Batman have to be so bleak, ugly and induce such nauseating violence and flinching?



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15 Sep 2010, 8:09 pm

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But do we really need a superhero movie to explore such heady, bleak and cynical themes rather than a movie with a premise maybe better suited to such themes, like No Country for Old Men? And of course some fans will respond “But T, superheroes are just as capable of adult themes as any other genre. Why can’t Batman explore these same ultraserious, depressing and high art themes.” To which I’ll again respond BECAUSE IT’S ABOUT A RICH NINJA GUY THAT DRESSES AS A BAT WITH SUPERTECH THAT RUNS AROUND KICKING AN EVIL CLOWN’S ASS AT NIGHT. No matter how much you lie to yourself, it’s simply not as high-falutin’ a setting as movies like No Country for Old Men or Sophie’s Choice. It’s a premise best suited for fantasy, escapism and cheap thrills. And there’s nothing wrong with that! You don’t have to reinvent it into Godfather II meets Silence of the Lambs meets a snuff film in order to prove there’s such depth and worth in the source material. Why does a movie about freaking Batman have to be so bleak, ugly and induce such nauseating violence and flinching?


I'm done talking with you... You know nothing about Batman and keep bringing up ridiculous arguments...



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15 Sep 2010, 8:23 pm

Jamesy wrote:
But do we really need a superhero movie to explore such heady, bleak and cynical themes rather than a movie with a premise maybe better suited to such themes, like No Country for Old Men? And of course some fans will respond “But T, superheroes are just as capable of adult themes as any other genre. Why can’t Batman explore these same ultraserious, depressing and high art themes.” To which I’ll again respond BECAUSE IT’S ABOUT A RICH NINJA GUY THAT DRESSES AS A BAT WITH SUPERTECH THAT RUNS AROUND KICKING AN EVIL CLOWN’S ASS AT NIGHT. No matter how much you lie to yourself, it’s simply not as high-falutin’ a setting as movies like No Country for Old Men or Sophie’s Choice. It’s a premise best suited for fantasy, escapism and cheap thrills. And there’s nothing wrong with that! You don’t have to reinvent it into Godfather II meets Silence of the Lambs meets a snuff film in order to prove there’s such depth and worth in the source material. Why does a movie about freaking Batman have to be so bleak, ugly and induce such nauseating violence and flinching?

you are an idiot. you know nothing about batman.



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15 Sep 2010, 8:24 pm

jamesy, shut the f**k up



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15 Sep 2010, 9:00 pm

come on be men and accept that i am right for once.



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15 Sep 2010, 9:26 pm

Jamesy wrote:
come on be men and accept that i am right for once.


Why don't you be a man and realize that your opinion isn't always fact.



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16 Sep 2010, 6:57 am

Jamesy wrote:
But do we really need a superhero movie to explore such heady, bleak and cynical themes rather than a movie with a premise maybe better suited to such themes, like No Country for Old Men? And of course some fans will respond “But T, superheroes are just as capable of adult themes as any other genre. Why can’t Batman explore these same ultraserious, depressing and high art themes.” To which I’ll again respond BECAUSE IT’S ABOUT A RICH NINJA GUY THAT DRESSES AS A BAT WITH SUPERTECH THAT RUNS AROUND KICKING AN EVIL CLOWN’S ASS AT NIGHT. No matter how much you lie to yourself, it’s simply not as high-falutin’ a setting as movies like No Country for Old Men or Sophie’s Choice. It’s a premise best suited for fantasy, escapism and cheap thrills. And there’s nothing wrong with that! You don’t have to reinvent it into Godfather II meets Silence of the Lambs meets a snuff film in order to prove there’s such depth and worth in the source material. Why does a movie about freaking Batman have to be so bleak, ugly and induce such nauseating violence and flinching?

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16 Sep 2010, 9:26 am

Admit though in the parage i typed out all that i said was correct.



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16 Sep 2010, 9:59 am

Jamesy wrote:
Admit though in the parage i typed out all that i said was correct.

no you are not. just shut up