Does anyone else have problem with Titanic?

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I have a huge problem with it: why would I want to go see a movie where I already know what happens at the end....and that's without reading the spoilers about the ending?

Valkyrie spoiler... HITLER LIVES!

um....y-yeah....

I had a problem with her tossing the necklace into the sea. Heck, she could have sold the thing and started the Jack Dawson School for Starting Artists or something - she could have immortalized Jack rather than allowing him to be totally anonymous.

What irritated me more about the film was a line early on, with Rose and one of the senior crewmen. She asked about the lifeboats and commented that there weren't enough for all the passengers. Uh, Yeah. Maybe she could have also suggested that the North Atlantic have a dedicated ice burg watch in place - you know - just in case a ship might hit one of those pesky burgs.

I don't have a special problem with either, because I don't like any part of the film. If she hadn't thrown it back in the sea, though, we wouldn't have "oops!... I did it again", which I'm sure everyone will agree would be a tragic loss for human culture.

I just have a problem with the whole era, that it took place, when men were even more likely to abuse their women. A time when a woman couldn't be herself and dress in a more unisex manner, if that's what she wanted. A time of corseted women.

It wasn't Jack and Rose's job to be on the lookout, it was the lookouts. By being distracted by a couple making out, they weren't doing their job. So the lookouts are the ones to blame.

And to answer the OP's question, I didn't really have a problem with Jack dying. It just seemed like an integral part of the film to me. I was annoyed by Rose throwing the diamond into the ocean at the end, though. I understand that she has no interest in becoming rich and famous off that diamond, but it always irks me whenever bad things happen to valuable things.

That movie was way too long, and way too popular - I remember when it came out that horrible Celine Dion song was playing everywhere and everyone was talking about how romantic the story was. I found it really boring and kept wishing they'd hurry up and die already. As for him dying, that's supposed to be part of the "romantic" plot or something.

To me, this film is really really boring. I watched it in the cinema and I couldn't stand this love story. I was waiting for the ship sinking. When it hit the iceberg, I was happy.
Ths movie is unreal and full of stupidity.

But it makes me wonder if Jack hadn't won his ticket to go on the Titanic he wouldn't have met Rose and so they would not have distracted the lookout men so the ship may have arrived safely in New York.

1. The concept of chivalry dictates that a man sacrifice himself for a lady. That's why "women and children first" was a common standard in evacuations. It was a norm of the time properly represented in the movie. I thought it was more stupid that nobody thought to lash together a homemade raft to survive the ship going down. Likewise, med tech back then was very limited. Resuscitation (even CPR) was largely unknown. There was no hope of bringing him back if they recovered his body.

2. I would have kept the stone...personally. I guess it was supposed to be a dramatic thing.

he was being chivalrous by putting her first and making the ultimate sacfrice of dying for her- its a romantic movie, whaddaya expect. and didn't she let him go so that she could get the rescuer's attention and survive like he told her to?

she threw the necklace because she didnt care about fame or money- afterall she already had all that but gave all that up when she got to america and started a new life under jacks name. it was supposed to be another poignant romantic gesture. also kind of symbolic because it was called the heart of the ocean (i think) and her heart belonged under the ocean with jack?

but i felt abit bad for the guys who'd wasted all that time looking for it and would never know

i didnt see this film until years after it came out, when it was braodcast on terestrial tv lol. i was way behind

They did those two things in the plot in order to wrench the emotion into the audience. Personally, I would have done exactly as his character did, as I could not let my wife drown in the cold water. That would hurt me so much that I would wish I had died. And as far as the pendant, I think it was to symbolize that they were faithful to each other lifelong, and not to have done that would have cheapened her memory of them together.

Charles

The blame rests squarely with Capt. Edward Smith who ignored several iceberg warnings and was going at top speed at night. The blame rests secondarily with the designers Harlan and Wolfe who used second rate steel for the hull plates and compartments that were open at the top. The Titanic, contrary to belief, was NOT unsinkable. Any vessel made of steel can sink.

Jack and Rose are fictitious. If the look outs had seen the iceberg five seconds later the ship would have collided head on with the berg and stayed afloat.

ruveyn

I don't intend to insult or demean, but what if your wife feels exactly the same way? Wouldn't it be selfish, not chivalrous, of you to so quickly choose death, as opposed to trying to survive?

As for the pendant, again, a selfish and irrational act. She could've helped a lot of struggling artists (just an example) with the money she would've gotten from selling it. Which would've been much more apt and meaningfull to the memory of Jack.

That right there is the only important thing. Analysing their actions as though they were actual people instead of narrative contructs is silly and illogical. Their actions were not based on what works best in reality. Their actions were based on what a writer thought would best move the plot along.

I've sat at the cafeteria table listening to my coworkers actually get upset about the "thoughtless" actions of a sitcom character. I've wanted to scream, "he said those terrible things because the writer put it in the script to get you to watch the show-it's not real". I thought people here were immune to that silliness but no. Yeesh!