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16 Mar 2012, 9:11 pm

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The woman doesn't have Asperger's. I think that's fairly clear - I think what she had was described more as sociopathy rather than Asperger's.


The author intended for her to have Aspergers and says so several times throughout the book series. This may not have fully translated to the screen but it is there in the books. It is clear from the monologue in her head that she is not sociopathic and cares very intensely for a few key people in her life.


No. Aspergers is mentioned in the books, but it's by no means conclusive. Her guardian says something to the effect of "she lacks as many symptoms as she displays". She may or may not be on the autistic spectrum, but her behavior owes far more to her traumatic childhood than it does any pre-existing neurological condition.

That said, I loved the books and, to a lesser extent, the films. I was quite obsessed with them for a time, reading the trilogy in the course of two weeks.


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16 Mar 2012, 10:35 pm

davidalan11235813 wrote:
Janissy wrote:
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The woman doesn't have Asperger's. I think that's fairly clear - I think what she had was described more as sociopathy rather than Asperger's.


The author intended for her to have Aspergers and says so several times throughout the book series. This may not have fully translated to the screen but it is there in the books. It is clear from the monologue in her head that she is not sociopathic and cares very intensely for a few key people in her life.


No. Aspergers is mentioned in the books, but it's by no means conclusive. Her guardian says something to the effect of "she lacks as many symptoms as she displays". She may or may not be on the autistic spectrum, but her behavior owes far more to her traumatic childhood than it does any pre-existing neurological condition.

That said, I loved the books and, to a lesser extent, the films. I was quite obsessed with them for a time, reading the trilogy in the course of two weeks.


Would she be better classed as PDD-NOS?

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27 Mar 2012, 5:26 am

I've watched versions and love them both. Lizbeth Salander is the coolest (yep, cooler than Han Solo) character I've ever seen in a movie. Actually I'm a little weirded out that I'm thinking about a fictional character so much.


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27 Mar 2012, 8:47 am

I have to say, after watching the American movie I prefer the original. I thought Rooney Mara played Lisbeth a little too soft and submissive to Blomkvist.



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27 Mar 2012, 11:34 pm

I've seen the first 2 Swedish movies and the American remake. While the American version did a better job of explaining the connections between the family members involved in the disappearance of the girl, I found that I was bored to the point of nearly falling asleep during the scenes that focused on Blomkvist and not Lisbeth.

However, I must say that I absolutely adore Lisbeth, whether she is played by Noomi Rapace or Rooney Mara. She is easily the best part of the series.



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27 Mar 2012, 11:48 pm

She is in no way a sociopath, in some ways it seems like she could have aspergers, and like an earlier poster said it is merely speculated that she could have aspergers.


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28 Mar 2012, 12:34 am

The girl with the dragon tattoo is a aspie in my opinon the way her character was pertrade in the movie I havent seen the america version yet but I don't think it will be as good as the swedish version which is a good movie that I own and like a whole lot.



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28 Mar 2012, 3:41 am

As has been mentioned before, in the books Asperger's is specifically mentioned in connection with her. Whether her character is an accurate portrayal of someone with it is open to debate, but Stieg Larsson clearly meant for her behavior to at least be reminiscent of it.

Plus, as part of her preparation for playing the character, Rooney Mara spent time at a school for children with autism.


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29 Mar 2012, 9:21 am

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The girl with the dragon tattoo is a aspie in my opinion the way her character was portrayed in the movie. I haven't seen the American version yet, but I don't think it will be as good as the Swedish version, which is a good movie that I own and like a whole lot.


IMO, the American film is better than the theatrical release of the Swedish, but the extended Swedish version is the best.

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Would she be better classed as PDD-NOS?


It's no better or worse of a guess than AS. And kind of irrelevant. As I said earlier, she may have an autism spectrum disorder, her behavior owes more to her traumatic childhood.


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31 Mar 2012, 1:29 am

I saw all three of the origianl Swedish films with subtitles and they were all great. Now I want to read the books as well since the books will explain in more detail what the main character is feeling. Yes Lisbeth Salander does come across as Aspie. It is inspiring that she does not give up and she fights back against would be attackers. :twisted:


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31 Mar 2012, 2:38 am

davidalan11235813 wrote:
Joker wrote:
The girl with the dragon tattoo is a aspie in my opinion the way her character was portrayed in the movie. I haven't seen the American version yet, but I don't think it will be as good as the Swedish version, which is a good movie that I own and like a whole lot.


IMO, the American film is better than the theatrical release of the Swedish, but the extended Swedish version is the best.

The extended verison is the one that I have but next time I go to wal mart or best buy Ill look for the american verison of the movie.



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30 Dec 2012, 12:40 am

I just saw this film just now and she didn't act like someone who had it. I didn't see any symptoms. Sure she is quiet, her voice was odd, but not enough for me to say she has it. She definitely was not a sociopath. This was the 2011 version I saw. At least they didn't do a stereotype about the condition.


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30 Dec 2012, 12:53 am

I saw the American version, the first Swedish movie and read the first book and I felt like I could relate to Lisbeth's character as an aspie woman. Yes I agree that it was only speculation in the book that she had it. But I think that the author's point is to show that she is much more than just a socially awkward woman and not to concentrate on her Aspie characteristics.

That being said, I think that Rooney Mara (and any NT actor for that matter) would have a hard time portraying someone with AS, especially such a unique woman with so many other problems. I enjoyed the book much more as I could imagine the character as I wanted.



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30 Dec 2012, 1:40 am

I thought Aperger's was mentioned in the book?


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30 Dec 2012, 1:51 am

I only read the first book, but in it, Mikael Blomkvist only speculated that she had Asperger's.