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08 Jun 2012, 6:52 am

I watched it yesterday, it's visually stunning and slightly entertaining with stand-out performances from Fassbender and Theron. Sadly, its nothing compared to Alien and Aliens, but easily wipes the floor with 3 and Resurrection.

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08 Jun 2012, 6:59 am

I don't really want a new Alien movie, just something kinda spooky with lots of neat imagery and cool stuff. I might go see it this evening.

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08 Jun 2012, 10:55 pm

Double bump because I just got back from seeing it. I liked some stuff about the movie but overall it was disappointing and I'm a very "The glass is half full" kind of person who finds good in just about anything. Like many have said, the special effects are nice, cool looking ship sets and pretty CGI but that the original Alien movies impressed me more visually. Still, it was good CGI, I'm just biased against computer stuff, the Prometheus was a very cool looking ship. With that said, I'm going to include marked spoilers for the people who don't give a s**t, not going to write a synopsis though or even begin to try explaining the plot. I was honestly hoping for something that wasn't quite Alien but atmospheric, spooky and surreal in its own way. I think a lot of people expected this too and didn't even want a direct Alien prequel...oh the irony :roll:

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I liked that the eel-squid creatures were basically proto-xenomorphs and it was nice seeing the one at the end, but yeah this is basically a direct prequel to the first Alien, except its just..not that good. Also the fact that the space jockeys/"engineers" are basically as*holes that wanted to wipe out the earth but decided at the last minute not to and the fact that we actually see them alive and moving...and acting like big stupid Hulk-men really ruins the mystique they had.

I guess they REALLY didn't want the stuff in the ship to leave the planet? Who the hell knows. I can't decide if the director was trying to be vague and let us imagine things or if it was just bad writing. A lot of stuff just didn't make sense, not because I'm stupid and need everything explained to me..it just didn't fit or mesh well. I feel like Ridley Scott wanted to do one thing but at the end he was like "oh f**k this let's make it a real Alien prequel, let them have their xenomorph!!

People are either going to dislike this movie or be very defensive toward it. Its not horrible, I appreciate the movie for its link with the Alien mythos..I just can't believe the same guy that directed Alien made this movie. Alien wasa brilliant, suspenseful, well written movie..this feels like a mix of fanservice and "I just don't know what to do guys oh god"

I feel like Ridley Scott wanted to do something great and deep..but the movie we got was a disjointed mess with some cool special effects and scenery.

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09 Jun 2012, 7:41 am

Just watched it. As a big fan of the Alien and Predator movies, I was rather satisfied with the movie, I like to think this movie really expands the universe that both film series, would probably say that I am especially happy with the Mala'kak, I added it to the names I remember. I was happy that the trailer did not really give away the plot, I liked the technology, the monsters made me want to see more, and hold hope for sequels that might be the "new Alien movie" that people were wanting.

I am a fanboy of those movies(I use the name DuskyPredator), maybe I am acting blind to what the movie was like, but I really did enjoy it, not confused by story or motivation at least. Actually I feel like the motivation of the enemy in this film was easy to sympathise. I can honestly say that I enjoyed it more than Hunger Games.

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09 Jun 2012, 9:15 am

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The more I think back on the movie the more I want to see it again, I do think it had its share of flaws but it was cool and had lots of neat imagery. I absolutely loved the inside of the engineer ship and its very fascinating getting an idea of where stuff in the others movie came from. I too am a fan of the Mala'kak as well.

I'm an obsessive Alien fan too and the movie rekindled my fondness for the core series. I'm not as big of a fan as Predator and I can't watch the VS movies but the comics are cool.

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09 Jun 2012, 11:18 am

My parents saw it last night. They weren't impressed.

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09 Jun 2012, 2:42 pm

One of the things I liked in Alien was the notion that the derelict space craft was possibly millions of years old so I hope this new film doesn't ruin that for me.

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09 Jun 2012, 3:54 pm

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Double bump because I just got back from seeing it. I liked some stuff about the movie but overall it was disappointing and I'm a very "The glass is half full" kind of person who finds good in just about anything. Like many have said, the special effects are nice, cool looking ship sets and pretty CGI but that the original Alien movies impressed me more visually. Still, it was good CGI, I'm just biased against computer stuff, the Prometheus was a very cool looking ship. With that said, I'm going to include marked spoilers for the people who don't give a sh**, not going to write a synopsis though or even begin to try explaining the plot. I was honestly hoping for something that wasn't quite Alien but atmospheric, spooky and surreal in its own way. I think a lot of people expected this too and didn't even want a direct Alien prequel...oh the irony :roll:

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I feel like Ridley Scott wanted to do something great and deep..but the movie we got was a disjointed mess with some cool special effects and scenery.

I agree with you a lot. I get the feeling that Ridley Scott wanted to do a lot more with this, but the stuffed shirts at the studios got their tentacles into it and messed it up somewhat.

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After a little bit of time pondering the movie, There are elements of the story that don't sit with me well. I thought the romance between whats her name and what's his name was unnecessary and poorly developed.

I also thought that the over-dramatic self-sacrifice ending could have been done differently.

Then there is the whole "ancient-alien" connection with the engineering of humanity. I thought it was pandering a little too much to existing conspiracy-esque theories in our culture. I was hoping the Mala'kak wouldn't be so connected with humanity and earth. It kinda deflates their mystery.

And, something doesn't sit with me well about the whole "wanting to destroy humanity" theme. It's really been overused in so many sci-fi movies.

It also felt as if much of the movie borrowed from the plot of alien, attempting to make it too similar. Just the flow of the movie kinda copied the original. I almost want to call this an alien "reboot". Little things, like the landing sequence, parallels between characters in the two movies, various camera shots in and around the ship.

A day and a half later, I'm going to revise my rating to 3 out of 5 stars from 4 out of 5.

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09 Jun 2012, 4:27 pm

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I agree with you a lot. I get the feeling that Ridley Scott wanted to do a lot more with this, but the stuffed shirts at the studios got their tentacles into it and messed it up somewhat.

I don't think stuffed shirts are going to dictate to Ridley Scott. I just think he ran into time constraints. There's just too much story to tell and only so much time. Also I don't think he felt like he had to waist any time paying homage to the original movies. Which is why I think some people are disappointed. The upside is I don't think the movie "Ruined" anything like the Star Wars prequels or Crystal Skull. I saw an interview somewhere where he talked about Cutting the movie. He seemed to indicate that he had to make some tough decisions about what to keep in. Let me see if I can find it.

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09 Jun 2012, 6:17 pm

Oh it definitely does not ruin the series at all and for all its flaws there was plenty for me to appreciate too. The movie isn't horrible at all, its not AVP1 or 2. I think people are mostly disappointed or were expecting something that wasn't quite Alien, but still really good. I had the same problem with the cast, I didn't like the main character's boyfriend/husband at all either, I thought he was kind of a douche in the way that Mika off Paranormal Activity was. I guess that's because they look alike. With that said I saw what was going to happen a mile away.

Also its not like R.S. was the only person working on this movie, there was Damon Lindelof of Lost fame. Still, its not a terrible movie..just disappointed .

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09 Jun 2012, 8:33 pm

I think a big point of the cast is that they are so human, I mean they seem so unfleshed, and unlikeable, it makes going through the mystery of the situation, also a journey between their personalities, like in the original Alien movie, you are just seeing people (jerks and all) being people. You will have some that can surprise you in knowing what is at stake, but others just want to go home.

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09 Jun 2012, 10:15 pm

Just got back from it a few hours ago. It just met my expectations without exceeding them. "Alien" is one of my favorite movies ever, so I in no way expected "Prometheus" to be on par with it, but I liked that parts of it evoked memories of "Alien" without feeling recycled. Aside from the overall vibe of certain parts there was:

The jerks who just want to get paid
The cave full of pods which reminded me of the eggs in "Alien"
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The surgery scene which reminded me of the chestburster scene
The "final girl" and her sign-off

Saw it with my dad who just likes to point out plot holes and stupid things the characters do. He's no fun to watch movies with. :lol:

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10 Jun 2012, 5:12 pm

I saw it and quite enjoyed it. Beautiful is one word. But, I would have liked to see it without any connection to Alien, I think the story on it's own would've been stronger.

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10 Jun 2012, 8:44 pm

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I saw it and quite enjoyed it. Beautiful is one word. But, I would have liked to see it without any connection to Alien, I think the story on it's own would've been stronger.

They pretty much went out of their way to say this isn't a direct prequel to Alien. I think the problem here is nobody wanted to hear it. I totally agree that the story would've been stronger on it's own but, I totally get the fact that it's set in the same universe as Alien. A lot of good Sci-Fi is derivative. Each author stands on the shoulders of the stories that came before and pushes the limtis out further. I think that's what they are trying to do here. I pretty confident that this isn't the last instalation in the saga. If you've read anything from Ridley Scott after the release he's said as much.

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11 Jun 2012, 1:09 am

Just went and watched Prometheus. Two problems: not enough character development, and too many questions up in the air. Other than that, highly enjoyable.

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11 Jun 2012, 1:13 am

My wife and I just caught Prometheus this afternoon to celebrate our 11th wedding anniversary. We both greatly enjoyed it, as did our daughter's Godfather who had accompanied us.
My only question now is - as the company now knows what is awaiting them on the Engineer's moon base, why in God's name would they want to bring a specimen back?!?!

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