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01 Dec 2014, 6:33 pm

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Singer was only a producer on "First Class". Matthew Vaughn directed it.

Singer has his signature all over "First Class" as George Lucas has his signature all over "Empire Strikes Back", as Howard Hawks has his signature all over "The Thing". None were given the directors credit but none of those films would have turned out the way they did without their input. "Last Stand" is an example of what happens when the creative artist is shut out of the final result. The three films I named are an example of what happens when the guiding hand of the creative artist is there from start to finish.
Singer wasn't shut out of "The Last Stand". He left of his own free will, when WB offered him "Superman Returns". Sadly, that film became more of an extended homage to the Donner era, instead of anything truly original.


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01 Dec 2014, 8:01 pm

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I haven't bought "Days of Future Past" yet, because I'm waiting for the Rogue Cut's release next summer. As for other Marvel-based films, I'm most excited about "Captain America: Civil War", "Avengers: Infinity War", and "Inhumans". The new "Fantastic Four" is destined to suck, though. :(


IMO, we should wait for a trailer of the Fantastic 4 reboot to be released before making any informed opinions. However, the MARVEL movie I think might suck could be the upcoming
Ant-Man movie. It's likely still filming, but if MARVEL wants it to be released by July 2015, the production needs to hurry up. :x

On another note, I might buy a copy of X-Men: Days Of Future Past as a Christmas present for my sister, who is also a fan of the X-Men movies, if not I'll buy her a copy of The Wolverine.

As for other upcoming MARVEL movies, I am most excited about:
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Doctor Strange
Black Panther
Captain Marvel
Guardians Of The Galaxy 2
Thor: Ragnarok


I am also excited about upcoming non-MCU movies based on MARVEL properties:
X-Men: Apocalypse
The Wolverine 2
The Amazing Spider-Man 3
The Sinister 6


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02 Dec 2014, 4:25 am

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Same here I love all of them and I hope apocalypse is good too I hope gambit is in it like the rumours say because he didn't get a big role in origins.


Fox is developing a Gambit spin-off movie for Channing Tatum to star in, but it'd be great if Gambit got a role in the next X-Men movie as a way to re-introduce him to audiences.

Agree I think he should be introduced in apocalypse first then a spin off because he isn't that well known to the mainstream audience and are not very familiar with gambit and even though I love the idea of gambit having his own movie it's still a bit of a risk also what do you think about channing Tatum being gambit?



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02 Dec 2014, 9:51 pm

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Same here I love all of them and I hope apocalypse is good too I hope gambit is in it like the rumours say because he didn't get a big role in origins.


Fox is developing a Gambit spin-off movie for Channing Tatum to star in, but it'd be great if Gambit got a role in the next X-Men movie as a way to re-introduce him to audiences.

Agree I think he should be introduced in apocalypse first then a spin off because he isn't that well known to the mainstream audience and are not very familiar with gambit and even though I love the idea of gambit having his own movie it's still a bit of a risk also what do you think about channing Tatum being gambit?


I read an article in which Channing Tatum talks about growing up in Louisiana, so it is possible he could pull off the Cajun accent easily.


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03 Dec 2014, 2:06 pm

Question: Out of all the actors and actresses who have been rumored to play younger versions of various characters in X-Men: Apocalypse, who do you think should be cast as which characters?


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04 Dec 2014, 8:21 am

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Question: Out of all the actors and actresses who have been rumored to play younger versions of various characters in X-Men: Apocalypse, who do you think should be cast as which characters?

I haven't seen the rumored actors yet but it's a hard one though I think maybe they should go for unknowns because I find that In superhero movies they seem to do that a lot but my personal opinion on channing I think he may be able to pull it off but it's still early days but I'm still looking forward to seeing gambit on the big screen again and maybe he will have a better role than he did in origins.



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04 Dec 2014, 6:11 pm

I read that X-Men: Apocalypse will take place after the events of X-Men: First Class, so IMO, Fox should go for people in their late teens/early 20s to play younger versions of various characters.


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04 Dec 2014, 11:41 pm

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Singer was only a producer on "First Class". Matthew Vaughn directed it.

Singer has his signature all over "First Class" as George Lucas has his signature all over "Empire Strikes Back", as Howard Hawks has his signature all over "The Thing". None were given the directors credit but none of those films would have turned out the way they did without their input. "Last Stand" is an example of what happens when the creative artist is shut out of the final result. The three films I named are an example of what happens when the guiding hand of the creative artist is there from start to finish.
Singer wasn't shut out of "The Last Stand". He left of his own free will, when WB offered him "Superman Returns". Sadly, that film became more of an extended homage to the Donner era, instead of anything truly original.


Then how original was the latest Superman movie which was a rehash of the second Donner movie, without any character development and totally dependent on CGI for it's kicks. Singer's Superman Returns was Citizen Kane by comparison.



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05 Dec 2014, 12:03 am

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I read that X-Men: Apocalypse will take place after the events of X-Men: First Class, so IMO, Fox should go for people in their late teens/early 20s to play younger versions of various characters.
"Apocalypse will take place in 1983, approx. 20 years after "First Class", and ten years after "Days of Future Past". Charles and Erik would presumably be in their 40s, while the younger characters would be in their 20s and 30s. I heard they're also looking to cast younger versions of Cyclops, Jean Grey, and Storm...so they'd probably be in their late teens.


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08 Dec 2014, 2:33 am

I love the X-Men movies! My fave of the original 3 was X-2, I LOVED everything about First Class except the last ten minutes OH MY GOD. I despise the last ten minutes of First Class, so much so I left the theater thinking it was worse than Wolverine Origins until I had time to think about and remember I loved everything until Charles got shot, which I'm not intrinsically opposed to but it was WAY rushed and wasn't handled well I thought, and then everything increased my rage and I will NEVER FORGIVE THEM FOR WHAT THEY DID TO MOIRA.

But I would say right now my favorite X-movie is Days of Future Past. I thought they had a good balance between all the elements, it was fun and snappy with good action and although I think they need to ween themselves off hinging every movie off Wolverine and the Magneto/Xavier relationship (which I like as elements but EVERY MOVIE HINGES ON THEM and I'm like YES I GET IT SHOW ME THE OTHER CHARACTERS PLEASE) they worked really well in DoFP!

Also it rebooted the prime timeline and NOW SCOTT IS BACK ALIVE OMG MY FAVE Seriously my sister was SO annoyed with me ("He was only in the movie for ten seconds, would you top crying!?") but I LOVE SCOTT SO MUCH I imprinted on him when X-1 came out decades ago, I am Scott, Scott is me, can we claim Scott as the honorary autistic X-man??? SUPER PUMPED to see more of him and the original X-men in Apocalypse!! !

(Tho really I think they rebooted the prime timeline when they were trying to cast First Class and were like "Shoot, we used up all the cool mutants!!" lol)


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08 Dec 2014, 4:32 pm

progaspie wrote:
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progaspie wrote:
Moviefan2k4 wrote:
Singer was only a producer on "First Class". Matthew Vaughn directed it.

Singer has his signature all over "First Class" as George Lucas has his signature all over "Empire Strikes Back", as Howard Hawks has his signature all over "The Thing". None were given the directors credit but none of those films would have turned out the way they did without their input. "Last Stand" is an example of what happens when the creative artist is shut out of the final result. The three films I named are an example of what happens when the guiding hand of the creative artist is there from start to finish.
Singer wasn't shut out of "The Last Stand". He left of his own free will, when WB offered him "Superman Returns". Sadly, that film became more of an extended homage to the Donner era, instead of anything truly original.


Then how original was the latest Superman movie which was a rehash of the second Donner movie, without any character development and totally dependent on CGI for it's kicks. Singer's Superman Returns was Citizen Kane by comparison.


IMO, the only performance from Superman Returns that was actually good was Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor. Crappy dialogue was one other reason not many people liked Superman Returns.

@ProgAspie: It could have been much worse. At one point, WB wanted Tim Burton to direct a Superman movie, but thankfully Burton turned WB down after the poor reception to his remake of Planet Of The Apes.


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08 Dec 2014, 4:46 pm

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@ProgAspie: It could have been much worse. At one point, WB wanted Tim Burton to direct a Superman movie, but thankfully Burton turned WB down after the poor reception to his remake of Planet Of The Apes.


Burton's Superman movie was actually in production for over a year. (This was also a few years before Planet of the Apes, not after.) Sets were already being built, the cast was in place, and Nicolas Cage had done costume fittings and special effects test footage. WB spent a ridiculous amount of money on it before pulling the plug. Someone recently made a documentary about the whole thing:



Burton seems to get endless criticism from comic book geeks, but that movie looks a hell of a lot more interesting to me than Superman Returns.



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09 Dec 2014, 2:41 am

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Then how original was the latest Superman movie which was a rehash of the second Donner movie, without any character development and totally dependent on CGI for it's kicks.
I'll admit I wasn't very thrilled about "Man of Steel" using Zod as the villain, but at least he's now out of the way in the new film universe. As for originality, I'd say there was a lot of it placed into Snyder's version of Krypton, which was pretty far removed from the "ice planet" of the Donner era. They also altered Jonathan's death, which I thought was interesting, and made some notable casting decisions with Lois and Perry.


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09 Dec 2014, 2:56 am

I'm a big fan of the X-Men movie franchise, and Marvel in general. I've actually seen every Marvel movie to date.
My favorite X-Men movie is probably X-Men: Days of Future Past, fantastic movie & very well-done.
The new one coming out should be very interesting ! I can't wait to check it out ! :D


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09 Dec 2014, 7:35 am

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They also altered Jonathan's death, which I thought was interesting, and made some notable casting decisions with Lois and Perry.


What's interesting about Jonathan dying in a hurricane rather than by a heart attack? Superman could have saved him from the hurricane, whereas he can't save him from a heart attack. That's the point of the original movie at the funeral scene, which is completely lost by script writers who gave us Man Of Steel. But then the entire movie is like that. Humans die and Superman doesn't seem to care. One piece of illogical plot scene is followed by another. Just keep all the battle scenes going and ignore every thing the original comic stood for.



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09 Dec 2014, 5:34 pm

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I'm a big fan of the X-Men movie franchise, and Marvel in general. I've actually seen every Marvel movie to date.
My favorite X-Men movie is probably X-Men: Days of Future Past, fantastic movie & very well-done.
The new one coming out should be very interesting ! I can't wait to check it out ! :D


How do you rate the X-Men movies?


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