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19 Jul 2024, 8:03 am

Fenn wrote:
pcgoblin wrote:
Original Superman from 1948 with Kirk Alan


1941 Max Fleischer Superman (a.k.a. Superman: The Mad Scientist) still has that beat by about 7 years. It was in color and the special effects were better.



(Yes it was animated, but they used Rotoscoping and traced live actors on film so there was a real-life Superman actor involved). It was nominated for Academy Award for Best Animated Short Film (then called "Academy Award for Best Short Subject, Cartoon". A "Short" or a "Short Subject Film" is still a film. And it definitely was shown in theatres.


Wikipedia says:

wikipedia.org - Short film

"Short Subject" redirects here.

[ . . . ]

A short film is a film with a low running time. The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences defines a short film as "an original motion picture that has a running time of not more than 40 minutes including all credits".[1] In the United States, short films were generally termed short subjects from the 1920s into the 1970s when confined to two 35 mm reels or less, and featurettes for a film of three or four reels. "Short" was an abbreviation for either term.

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( Also being a "scamp" )

You can see Kirk Alan clips here (and other places):



That's right! I should have remembered that. My mind was focused on live action (tunnel vision).
I saw several Max Fleischer's Superman on television recently. It had been maybe forty years since I saw them VHS copies of VHS copies from our local library (it was public domain), and I really enjoyed the better image on television. I was going to get them on DVD, but the reviews for the DVD sets (more than one) were varied concerning the quality of the DVD production. I couldn't make up my mind which set to buy.

Thank you for the shorts definition, and thank you for also being a "scamp"



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20 Jul 2024, 11:55 am

Enjoying The Tick (Patrick Warburton 2001), Arrow (Stephen Amell 2012) and The Flash (Grant Gustin 2014) on freevee and apple tv. Season 1 of The Tick was better than Season 2 but I am still enjoying it.

Rewatched Superman (Christopher Reeve 1978) and Spider-Man: Far From Home (Tom Holland 2019)


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30 Jul 2024, 12:53 pm

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/30/nx-s1-50 ... n-iron-man

Casting Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom is similar to Michael Keaton playing both Batman and Vulture in that both actors are taking on roles with a significant contrast to their previous iconic characters. Just as Keaton transitioned from the heroic Batman to the villainous Vulture, Downey Jr. is moving from his beloved hero role as Iron Man to a major villain role as Doctor Doom. This casting choice highlights the actors' versatility and brings a fresh dynamic to their new roles.

Several actors have taken on both heroic and villainous roles in the world of comic book adaptations:

Tom Hardy - Played Bane in The Dark Knight Rises (2012) and Eddie Brock/Venom (antihero) in Venom (2018) and its sequel.

Hugo Weaving - Played Red Skull in Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) and Elrond in The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit trilogies.

Other variations:

Hero/Hero

Chris Evans - Played the Human Torch in Fantastic Four (2005) and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007) before becoming Captain America in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Ryan Reynolds - Played the (antihero) title role in Deadpool (2016) and Deadpool 2 (2018), and also portrayed Green Lantern in Green Lantern (2011).

Ben Affleck - Played Daredevil in Daredevil (2003) and Batman in the DC Extended Universe (DCEU).

Crossing Universes

J.K. Simmons - Played J. Jonah Jameson in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man trilogy (starring Tobey Maguire) and reprised the role in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. He also voiced Commissioner Gordon in the Justice League animated series and played the villainous character J. Jonah Jameson in a more sinister form in the animated series.


Nicolas Cage’s superhero roles and other notable characters:

1. Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider - Ghost Rider (2007) and Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (2011)
- Role: Cage plays Johnny Blaze, a stunt motorcyclist who makes a pact with the devil and becomes the Ghost Rider, a supernatural antihero with a flaming skull.
- Traits: Ghost Rider is a dark, vengeful figure who uses his supernatural powers to fight evil. Cage’s portrayal is intense and fits the character’s brooding, tortured nature.

2. Spider-Man Noir - Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
- Role: Cage voices Spider-Man Noir, a gritty, 1930s-inspired version of Spider-Man who operates with a noir detective style.
- Traits: This version of Spider-Man is a classic noir detective, embodying a more serious and dramatic take on the superhero archetype.

3. Superman - Teen Titans Go! to the Movies (2018)
- Role: Cage provides the voice for Superman, making a humorous cameo in this animated film.
- Traits: Cage’s portrayal is a fun and light-hearted nod to Superman, showcasing his playful side.

4. Superman - The Flash (2023)
- Role: Cage makes a cameo appearance as Superman in this film, a reference to the unmade Superman Lives project from the late 1990s.
- Traits: This cameo serves as a meta nod to Cage’s connection to Superman, adding a layer of nostalgia and humor for fans.

5. Castor Troy - Face/Off (1997)
- Role: Cage plays Castor Troy, a notorious criminal mastermind who undergoes facial reconstruction surgery to assume the identity of an FBI agent, leading to a high-stakes battle of identities with his nemesis.
- Traits: Although not a traditional superhero role, Castor Troy’s character involves significant action and drama. His role mixes villainy with personal conflict, showcasing Cage’s range in a high-energy action film.

Summary

Nicolas Cage’s roles span both superhero and villainous characters, demonstrating his versatility and unique approach:

- Ghost Rider and Spider-Man Noir showcase his ability to portray dark, complex characters with a blend of intensity and depth.
- Superman in Teen Titans Go! to the Movies and The Flash highlights Cage’s playful and nostalgic side, offering light-hearted and humorous takes on the iconic superhero.
- Castor Troy in Face/Off demonstrates Cage’s talent for handling high-stakes, dynamic roles with a mix of villainy and action.

Cage’s performances across these roles reflect his wide-ranging talent and willingness to explore diverse and challenging characters.


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