Dr.Who christmas special

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One of his other presents from his dad and me was a "make your own interior of the TARDIS" thing. Basically, you had to have the dexterity of a....a...well, a dexterous person to make it. Bloody hell! Thought I'd never get it finished!

Fiona

If you think that's bad, there's a supermag tardis set. My brother has a lot of building sets and he says that Supermag is the worst of the three magnetic construction kits. And on that note, never swallow magnets, you could be killed.

I'm one of the old time Dr. Who Fans, who only recently got to watch some of the new 'Who' as we got a new special package offer from the cable, so we got BBC, but now it's on Sci-Fi I think. I heard about the Christmas Special, but there's been too much going on in my life, what with "aspie re-birthing" just a couple weeks before Xmas, and I think I missed it -- it sounds like it may be better than the regular series, so maybe there will be another chance to see it.

Unfortunately, I am an older aspie, and I've seen all the available original doctors, beginning with William Hartrnell, Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, through Sylvester McCoy.

Being an old timer, and being somewhat more imaginative than the younger generation who grew up on "Star Wars" computer graphics, I found I haven't been able to really enjoy this new "doctor".

I don't recognize him, he just don't feel like the doctor to me, not yet. Kind of like the doctor has amnesia, that's the feeling I get, due to the lack of a real feeling of character continuity.

There's no real feeling of continuity with the original show, and there's too much "high-tech" graphics, and some of the real charm and fantasy feeling of the original series has been lost.

And, ironically, there's an old show called "Full Circle", and in terms of media, the show has gone full circle back to the flat, all-film format of the original show.

Now, the first time I saw the series, the BBC for some pragmatic reason, used film for outside, video for inside. This was spectacularly imaginative to this yank's imagination. It really had appeal, as it combined the best features of both, something no one in America ever thought of doing.

This was a classic case of thinking outside the box!

The costumes and effects back then were simple, and this, combined with the theatrical costuming, just gave it a wonderul quality, ironically, much more appropriate to a good fantasy story than the extra-realistic stuff today. It brought the viewer's own imagination more into the story, and concentrated very well on the story. It was like watching a cross between a stage play, and a movie, and the results were nothing less than magical.

Kids hid behind the sofa from the Daleks, because it was so much more frightening to watch than the flat, 2-D film regression that the new show has turned out to be. Too much of creativity is masked by computers, and I can't recognize the creativity of the folks who actually create the show.

And, I really like the trailers, just as they were at the early to mid Tom Baker era; that imaginative oil between glass time vortex was just great, as far as I was concerned. To me, I'm afraid that just because Tom Baker was for most of us over here our first Docor, I'll always be biased toward his era.

Now, I'd really like to see, despite my preferences for the stage/film purity of the original, what they could do, if they used the computers and film, but combined it with the much more intimate "live" video for the important interiors where the actors close-ups mostly take place, just as they did in the "Golden Age" of Who.

Even the all-video of the McCoy era was more fun for me to watch.

When I was in tech school, I always wanted to build a robot K-9, with a Sinclair ZX-81 64K computer to run it, and I've still got the Doctor Who Technical Manual, the Doctor Who A Celebration, Two Decades Through Time and Space, and The Time Traveler's Guide. And my kids gave me DVD's of Pyramids of Mars and Horror of Fang Rock (Leela ROCKS! she puts all these young, modern female companions to shame, for this old timer's more sophisticated taste!) last year for Xmas.

Now that I'm retired and doing a little woodworking, you've given me an idea to make a cabinet, in the form of the TARDIS!

Thanks for bringing up Dr. Who?

johnpipe108 said:

While the wobbly sets are gone, the charm is back in full force.

The US TV Movie completely lost the plot.

The 2005 series had to come back a bit "normal" hence the Doctor had very few mannerisms/quirks. They needed to do that to get non-viewers back in.

I was a bit miffed when they regenerated so soon, thinking that the ninth doctor would be a hard act to follow... wow... was I wrong.

David Tennant, the 10th Doctor has become my all time favourite doctor.

The charm and fantasy elements didn't really return in full force until he started as Doctor.

I agree at the US movie; I've still got half of it on tape, I think; seems to me I recorded over most of it for a more interesting magic program.

I'm not sure who's Who on what I've seen. Don't know just what is being projected over here, and don't yet even recognize one actor over another yet. I recall that the show is, I believed, to be moved off BBC, and I don't think we get the channel it's supposed to be on now, so, it may be awhile before I get to see it. I've only seen the show lately at all just because I was in the room, cable surfing, and saw the listing.

Based on your more enthusiastic report, I hope I can get to see David Tennant as the doctor, if he really is as good as you feel. I don't know Who I've been looking at yet!

David Tennant is a brilliant doctor, and funny too.

FINGERS ON LIPS.

what really tickles me is (I think) the Mad-Eyed Moody impostor in the Harry Potter movie is the same guy as in the new Dr. Who series... if not true, it should be...

Used to watch it in the Baker/Davidson era. It got taken off the air in the US, and I missed about 15 years of it (yup...been around since...well, actually the first episode was pre-empted by the JFK assasination...coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO!...

It is the same person - David Tennant.
My kids think it's weird that he was a baddie in HP.



oh not a coincidence at all... If you feel like reading a proper published novel that's now available for free as a downloadable PDF Ebook, go here...

http://nzdwfc.tetrap.com/archive/wkk/


Originally published by Virgin Publishing Ltd in 1996, Who Killed Kennedy has long been out-of-print and consequently has become much sought-after by Doctor Who book collectors. Now David Bishop has granted permission to the NZDWFC to present this novel in ebook form.

In addition to the full text of the novel as it was published by Virgin in 1996, David Bishop has provided exclusive new material, including an introduction explaining the genesis of the novel, and a chapter-by-chapter author's commentary.

But that's not for the kiddies, as it is full of sex and violence. I have read it. I feel sorry for poor Stevens (getting the s**t beaten out of him by agents of C19 at every turn), not to mention a certain former companion of the Doctor's.

It's still a great book ...

The Virgin books were anything but...

and the best Dr Who novels ever. A lot better than the BBC books out now.

besides, anything about a president getting his head blown off is bound to have some violence in it.

My favourite Virgin New Adventures were : TimeWyrm: Revelation, All-Consuming Fire, Transit, Sky Pirates! and Lungbarrow.

Out of the Missing Adventures, I liked Goth Opera and The Romance of Crime.

But I enjoyed some of the BBC books. Alien Bodies, Interference, Zeta Major, War of the Daleks, Legacy of the Daleks, The Taking of Planet 5, Illegal Alien and Divided Loyalties.

It's strange that David Tennant makes such a good good guy considering the amount of bad guys he plays.

Well, he also played a young Casanova in Russel T Davies' TV show Casanova.

Well,

William Hartnell always played angry sergeants - not nice people anyway...

Peter Cushing - Dr Who was probably one of his only goodie roles.

Patrick Troughton - Actually he was mostly a good guy until the Omen (quite a bad person in the book but not so bad on screen)

Jon Pertwee played a vampire ...

Tom Baker played Rasputin before becoming the Doctor - not exactly a good guy.

Peter Davison - Tristan... oh wait he was a goody goodie.

Colin Baker - He was a baddie in Dr Who - actually SHOT Peter Davison to get his job (See Arc of Infinity).

Sylvester McCoy - he didn't get the world records for Ferrets in the trousers and nails up the nose being good.

Paul McGann - he was just bad... the less said about him the better.

Richard E Grant - he nicked someone's wife in one of those rom-coms, so he must be bad.

Christopher Ecclestone - A baddie in 28 days later.

See - it pays to be a baddie.

I'm not sure about Donna, yet. She is like a person at my school type.

i was not that amazed by the christmas special to be honest, but i shall say no more for those of you that have not seen it.

david tennant is the best doctor by far, (hmm, best looking as well!) i liked martha as a companion although i still believed he picked the wrong medical student! (i am a medical student too, but unfortunatly the hospital where i study has not been transported to the moon yet & as far as i know none of the patients are actually plasmavores!)

i get confused by the fact that barty crouch junior = the doctor. being a harry potter & doctor who obsessive freak i just find the roles completely opposite & do tend to shout at the tv!

i also got the dvd boxset for xmas, infact i am going to watch the daleks in manhattan episode now...