ASSUMED MOVIE, TV AND CARTOON CHARACTERS W/ ASPERGERS

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04 Sep 2007, 5:09 pm

I'd been thinking that Shikamaru from Naruto qualified too, but was reluctant to mention him since he also comes across as a lazy jerk. He's not really lazy, just seems to understand the universe on such a large scale that he doesn't see the point of doing anything or interacting with anyone. I can idetify.

And since he's my avatar, I should mention Soundwave. He was smarter than any other Decepticon when it came to anything technical, but completely incapable of small talk. He was tactful enough to know what to say at the right time, but even when he was butting in to stop Megatron from decapitating Starscream, he did so by conveying some specific piece of information. Also near impossible to read emotionally, and could concentrate on any task no matter how crazy things got around him.

Ironically, I've also heard him called the "Only normal Decepticon"

Of course he did start to show more emotion in the episodes set in 2006 after the movie, as he was likely driven insane by the horrible leadership of Galvatron.

And he always showed concern for his kids (the cassettes). That's the main reason he was always my childhood hero: Optimus Prime was the dad a lot of Transfans wished they had, but Soundwave was the dad I aspired to be when I grew up.


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12 Sep 2007, 8:02 am

My thoughts on the House episode "Lines in the Sand" and Asperger's:

Despite what Wilson says, I see AS in House. His near-militant obsession with the carpet revealed in this episode is really only icing on the cake to me, in terms of criteria. Mainly I see AS in his distaste and discomfort for accepted NT-interactions and behavior. He is most definitely not "flat" or lacking in affect, but situations in which he is unable to adopt his usual sarcastic, irreverent disposition leave him awkward, ungraceful, and clearly displeased.

In "Three Stories" - I think that's the name - he was clearly willing to die before having his leg amputated. He was willing to face any risk in order to avoid compromising his body. As Stacey said, "he's not big on middle-grounds." This can be seen in the incident with his leg, with his carpet, and even with Vogler and Tritter. There's a point at which stubborn ceases to be stubborn and becomes an inability to relinquish control. Despite the EXTREME physical pain, sickness and misery of detoxing, he wouldn't cave in order to get his "fix." It takes more than mere stubbornness to actually override a physical addiction - IMO, it takes an equally powerful mental compulsion.

Other, multi-episode indicators: THE BALL. He plays with that thing way, way more than someone who likes tossing things around would do. It seems like something he needs to do rather than something he wants to do. It looks like "stimming" to me. Of course it's open to debate whether it's one of the repetitive motion symptoms of ASD or simply a method for focusing, but watching him play with it reminds me of some of my own behaviors that I know to be stimming. Also, when he's not using his cane to walk, he's playing with it - I'm currently looking at a possible MS diagnosis and have to us a cane myself, and it's amaaaazingly soothing to play with. I stand it up when I'm sitting down and bat it back and forth between my hands, or use one hand to spin it in circles using the part you hold onto at the top. I've seen him do this before, although the exact occurances escape me.

And finally, his thought processes. He thinks in metaphors, associations, and multi-level comparisons - he even makes fun of this trait of his in some episodes, when one of his three underlings "tries" to be metaphorical. The "EUREKA!" moment in most episodes when all the pieces come together for him is usually prompted by a completely unrelated statement or action.

His "EUREKA!" moment in the first episode of Season Three was an even more extreme example. To Cuddy and Wilson, there actually wasn't anything to support his diagnosis, and so they believe that he shouldn't know it was correct because he'll make more "guesses." But that's something I'm intimately familiar with. The reason I did poorly in math classes in high school was that I couldn't "show" my work -- I took in the problem, and found the answer. I did not use mathematical logic to do so. So I would have the right answer, but lose points because I couldn't prove that I hadn't cheated or guessed.

I guess, in a way, it's a kind of pattern recognition. But it's not a conscious evaluation of patterns - it's something that an ASD brain can do without consulting itself, so to speak. I don't know if I've even articulated that clearly, but...

So, I honestly can't see how anyone could see House as "just a jerk," but maybe it's one of those "takes one to know one" kind of things. I was actually really shocked when Wilson told House "You don't have Asperger's," because to me, in hindsight... it was so obvious.

....hee. Non-House fans will probably have NO IDEA what I'm talking about, LOL :?


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13 Sep 2007, 3:34 pm

Here's one I thought of recently. If anyone has ever seen 'Door in the Floor', think of the little girl, Ruth (Elle Fanning). Ruth shows many AS traits.

*She is very, very obsessed with the photos in the hallway.

*It is her daily routine to look at the photos in the morning and before going to bed.

*She expects everyone else to know what's going on in the pictures, even if they're not mounted on the wall.

*She only eats grilled cheese and french fries (and ketchup, as she puts it).

*If there is a change in her life (need it be her mom not picking her up at her dad's or someone completely new is in the house), she freaks out and has a meltdown.



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15 Sep 2007, 5:40 pm

I thonk odd from Code Lyoko is one because he always says whats on his mind. :roll:



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15 Sep 2007, 6:52 pm

Data and Spock from Star Trek. They don't qualify as they're not human. Spock is but only half and tend to follow his Vulcan upbringing. Data just can't (or didn't) experience emotions and humor was just too complex for him to grasp.

I didn't feel like reading the whole 12 pages (ADD too) but I'd like to mention Napoleon Dynamite. Sheeya, I think he's the poster child for AS. How about Frank Burns from M*A*S*H?

Teal'c from Stargate? eh, not so much. Maybe McKay or Dr. Kavanaugh...



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16 Sep 2007, 4:10 am

Jeffrey Wigand from "the insider". Based on a true story by the way.....




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17 Sep 2007, 1:41 am

Lightning88 wrote:
Here's one I thought of recently. If anyone has ever seen 'Door in the Floor', think of the little girl, Ruth (Elle Fanning). Ruth shows many AS traits.

*She is very, very obsessed with the photos in the hallway.

*It is her daily routine to look at the photos in the morning and before going to bed.

*She expects everyone else to know what's going on in the pictures, even if they're not mounted on the wall.

*She only eats grilled cheese and french fries (and ketchup, as she puts it).

*If there is a change in her life (need it be her mom not picking her up at her dad's or someone completely new is in the house), she freaks out and has a meltdown.

I haven't seen that movie.

I saw Uptown Girls a while ago, and Ray appears to have OCD, not aspie though, I was thinking about that when I saw it.

Also the series Taken, the character Allie seems to have some aspie traits, she sounds like a little proffesor, same with her grandfather as a kid, although as an adult he didn't seem like that much.


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17 Sep 2007, 2:26 am

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Data and Spock from Star Trek. They don't qualify as they're not human. Spock is but only half and tend to follow his Vulcan upbringing. Data just can't (or didn't) experience emotions and humor was just too complex for him to grasp.

T'Pol from Enterprise, although she is a vulcan like Spock, it's curious that she was highly sensitive to smell and sound, few sounds disturbed her.


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17 Sep 2007, 3:25 pm

greenblue wrote:
I saw Uptown Girls a while ago, and Ray appears to have OCD, not aspie though, I was thinking about that when I saw it.

Also the series Taken, the character Allie seems to have some aspie traits, she sounds like a little proffesor, same with her grandfather as a kid, although as an adult he didn't seem like that much.

Yeah, I figured Ray had OCD as well. Probably something else, too, but I'm not sure what. And I've never seen Taken, but I want to! I'll have to see if it's on TV soon.



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18 Sep 2007, 2:28 am

The title character in "The English Patient".

It's really no surprise to me that most people hate that movie and find it horribly boring. :-)
I, on the other hand, love it.

Some reasons for thinking Almasy has AS:
1. Possessiveness
2. Not wanting to be controlled.
3. Awkwardness/shyness
4. Knows multiple languages, but never wants to speak.
5. Sings/hums all the time
6. Desperately needs/wants some lovin'
7. Prefers to be in a foreign place
8. No regard for social/moral norms.



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18 Sep 2007, 8:12 am

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The guy in "Accidental Tourist," and his family.

Watched that movie a few times when it came out (so obviously I liked it) but can't remember anything specific.
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Movie-Seymour from Ghost World. He has unusual interests in music, can't get dates, can't relate to anyone, sensitive to sounds(radio in the car scene). Also the akward conversation that he has with the woman about jazz speaks aspieness to me.

Yes, I felt his awkwardness & enthusiasm.
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Mr Bean.
Rowan Atkinson has been known to say that Mr Bean is not stupid. He is merely inept when it comes to social norms, but often comes up with ingenious solutions to the problems he finds himself in.

Seems likely.
Tim_Tex wrote:
I know Monk is OCD, but I wonder if he could be an Aspie, too. For now, I will just leave it at OCD.

Yeah, his social functioning seems so "off" that I keep hoping character will 'come out' as aspie, but that might narrow the audience demographic ? He does seem to understand other people's motives (incl. dishonesty & deception) & in that doesn't quite come across as wholly socially impaired.
poopylungstuffing wrote:
What about Ralph Wiggam from the Simpsons?,,,He is def. somewhere on the spectrum..(if someone else brought him up..sorry)...I think he way more suspect than Lisa.
And Butters from South Park.

Those two seem likely: the cluelessness, earnestness, and vulnerability to others with ill intent.
gavin7w wrote:
Maybe Molly Shannon in Superstar: stims off smelly fingers, weird body language, poor social skills, move fixation, uses film dialogue quotations to express herself.
I posted this by itself accidentally before someone helped me find this thread, and one of the people there pointed out it's difficult with comedic characters, since comedians draw broad strokes and generalities for humour.

Yeah, that character made me uncomfortable-though in ways I relate (just with different specifics filled in).
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I definitely think Cliff Claven from "Cheers" was definitely Aspie,

Keep thinking this when I see the old reruns. Too bad he's so off-putting & unadorable, not a character I'd want to compare myself to.

If I'm using amateur criteria of someone who seems way into something that most people aren't into at all, I'd guess the guy who is foremost authority (is there any competition for the post ?) on naked mole rats in documentary by Errol Morris, "Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control".


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23 Sep 2007, 5:10 pm

L from Death Note - This essay explains it all

Uchiha Itachi from Naruto - A genius, emotionally cold, seems to be unable to relate to others. I theorize that maybe he's a genius because one of his interests was honing his ninja skills.



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26 Sep 2007, 1:19 pm

Anyone here see The Big Bang Theory? I think the two main guys are definably on the spectrum, Sheldon morso than Leonard.

When Leonard invites the girl into their apartment on a whim Sheldon is clearly thrown, and when she sits in his favorite seat he goes on a long explanation of why he likes that seat until Leonard yells for him to just sit.

His sense of humor is very much like my own. He repeatedly took thing more literal than others meant. It definably seemed aspie to me.



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28 Sep 2007, 12:07 pm

Teoka wrote:
Uchiha Itachi from Naruto - A genius, emotionally cold, seems to be unable to relate to others. I theorize that maybe he's a genius because one of his interests was honing his ninja skills.


Itachi seems more like a sociopath to me.



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01 Oct 2007, 12:19 pm

Wouldn't suprise me if Reverend Lovejoy from The Simpsons was an aspie ... I think Julius (played by Arnold Schwarzenegger) in the movie "Twins" is a good example of an aspie.



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07 Oct 2007, 11:18 pm

Special Agent Timothy McGee (aka Thom E. Gemcity) and Forensic Specialist Abby Sciuto On NCIS.

I am also thinking that perhaps Chief Medial Examiner Dr Donald "Ducky" Mallard may also have Asperger's. He rambles on with stories oblivious most times to others wanting him to "get on with it" or just plain bored by them. He is very focused on his job to an obcessive point (even talking to the bodies). He dosen't seem to have any interests or social life outside of his job and lives with his 96 year old mother. He seems socially awkward much of the time.