Batman Forever!

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Okay, Harvey Dent is supposed to be some hotshot District Attorney right? And his fiancee is a rising star Assistant DA in his office? And they spend all their time together? Well let’s look at their stellar legal work in action, as described by Dark Knight Sucks:

"Well, the writers must have been a bit more lazy on the day they wrote the segment where Rachel and Harvey were trying to nail Lau on something. Particularly, they were trying to use Lau as a means to incriminate all the crime heads in Chicago (I mean Gotham).

Apparently, they got Batman to go all the way to China, risk his life, illegally kidnap a Chinese citizen who had not been convicted or even indicted on any US-based crime, and bring him back for questioning and they didn?t have an actual plan. They had NO IDEA what to nail him on, they just knew that he was the money-man for the mob. So, when he finally admits to being the banker for numerous criminal organizations, Harvey has a eureka moment with Rachel and blurts ?we can get them on RICO!?, presuming of course they can prove just one of the organizations pooling their money with Lau had committed crimes.

A bit of education: RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) is a US federal law. That means HAD that been the case that Harvey chose to pursue that path, he would have to hand over the entire case to a FEDERAL court, taking it completely out of his hands to prosecute – his jurisdiction was at a city level for Chicago (I mean Gotham). He was not a federal prosecutor. If he was, he would be referred to in the movie as a United States Attorney. If some want to argue semantics that he was a federal attorney and merely referred to as a District Attorney, that argument will fail because such positions are appointed by the President of the United States. They are not elected to that position, as is the case with Harvey Dent (it?s pretty clear in both the viral marketing and election context of the movie).

That was just one flaw with that segment; another flaw is the fact that Lau?s lawyer just stood there doing nothing while Harvey and Rachel were using unjust tactics to pressure him to talk, making implications they would place his life in danger based on how much he cooperates. Because, without those tactics, they didn?t seem to even have a clue of what to get Lau to admit to which might implicate the criminals they were after."

Christopher Nolan seems to think “realistic” is synonymous with “boring.” Most of the things that make Batman the comic character fantastic and larger than life are excised from Nolan’s movie version most likely because he finds them silly and unrealistic. Batman’s fighting style is brought down to earth so that he’s not doing any high-flying gymnastics or martial arts, just some really boring and dull fight style consisting of extreme, incomprehensible close-ups on repetitive body blows, elbows and arm grabs. And even worse, these fights are all shot in the dark and with lots of quick cuts, which I guess is somehow supposed to increase the realism through incoherency. We have a boring Batmobile that doesn’t have any bat insignias or oversized scallops or anything really that indicates it’s supposed to have a Bat-theme. Because I guess driving a giant bat-shaped car would be ridiculous. Joker can’t have permawhite skin like the comics because that’s also unrealistic, so he just wears face paint. And the list of fantastic comic elements that get taken out of the mythos for the purpose of the film go on and on. Which leads to my second problem with all this realism: IT’S A f***ing MOVIE ABOUT A BILLIONAIRE WHO TRAVELS THE WORLD IN ORDER TO BECOME THE WORLD’S SMARTEST MOST HIGH-TECH CRIMEFIGHTING NINJA, THEN RETURNS TO HIS HOMETOWN TO DRESS AS A GIANT BAT, DRIVE A WEAPONS-LOADED TUMBLER TANK LOADED, AND CLEAN UP ALL THE CRIME IN THE CITY BY ESSENTIALLY SINGLEHANDEDLY PUNCHING IT IN THE FACE EVERY NIGHT. AND NOW HE’S GOING TO FIGHT AN EVIL CLOWN.

You can't excuse the poor fighting scenes though comapred to past bat films heck even batman and robin had one up on the dark knights fight scenes.

Yeah right, Batman and Robin's fight scenes verged on the comedic. George Clooney's "Goodnight" quote after knocking out a Mr Freeze goon was so bad you could smell the fromage dripping off the screen. And judging by your total lack of rational thought, you deserve a nice punch in the b***ocks, but then again, you get off on violence, dont you Jamesy?

I'm pretty sure he's just goading you guys on. Not to mention, it doesn't matter. Let him have bad taste if he wants. Its his little reality.

Oh come on guys I am just debating.

Yeah but what I say is mostly correct.

Beause you are wrong about nolans films being better than batman forever and as far as i am concerned its a total insult to bat everywhere saying nolans adaptions are better than burtons.

I think the realistic take on batman fails because like i said THIS IS A GUY WHO DRESSES AS A NINJA!! !! !! !! !! !