Batman Forever!

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The Dark Knight an unintentionally sick spectacle, pretending to justify law and justice, but in reality celebrating violence and chaos.” A commenter on the website rottentomatoes.com said it way better than I ever could, so I’ll just quote him:

I kept getting exhausted and repulsed by how The Dark Knight continually had its cake and ate it too, by how it shoved oppressively bleak moments in our faces, then turned away from them later on: Gary Oldman gets shot, and we have to deal with his wife breaking down and screaming at the policeman who inform her of his death; but a half-hour later: no, he’s not really dead! We have to watch minute after minute of prisoners and civilians on two different barges decide whether or not to detonate explosives rigged to the others’ boat, and linger over their “screw everyone else, I’m totally in it for myself” rottenness (and *no one* on either boat stands up and says, “stop these madmen!” — but oh yeah, then the prisoner decides to throw the detonator out the boat window, and the civilian decides he doesn’t have the heart to go through with it — so you see, folks, the moviemakers finally demonstrated to us that these people REALLY aren’t rotten after all, even though they’ve just forced us to deal with five straight minutes of odious human nature. And then we have to endure another five solid minutes of Aaron Eckhart’s character’s holding a gun to a child’s head, to possibly avenge his girlfriend’s death, while Batman stands by and does nothing except to try to talk him out of it. So many scenes seemed intentionally designed to make us all feel powerless against society’s innate evil, and linger over and shove the rottenness of humanity down the audience’s throats. The constant foisting of fear and oppression and helplessness, going hand in hand with vigilante justice (and even an indirect justification of the Patriot Act, with Bruce Wayne’s radio-monitoring device) made me wonder if Dick Cheney had co-written the screenplay. My wife and I left the theater both wondering out loud, is THIS the movie that our country really needs to be tuning into right now? But of course, we’re only two small voices amongst the movie’s $150 million opening weekend, and after all (as so many fanboys are quick to point out), “it’s only a movie.”

No not really just a bunch of deluded fan boys out there hype up the dark knight.

Yeah but I like I said the Dark Knight was hyped up WAY too much. I saw Batman Returns tonight and I loved it was a great film. Sorry but TDK was just dull and it was far too hyped up and overrated when it came out in 2008, I was bitterly dissapointed when I first saw TDK. God even the videos on youtube made it seem more exciting than it was.

Begins was realeased with mixed reviews and was only given 3 stars in culture magazine becasue the SOUL searching aspect ruined it and it was ages untill we saw any action in the film.

I think many a bat comic or film fan would agree that batman returns is a pure classic unlike TDK.

And yeah yeah blah blah batman is suppoused to be "realistic" and this the 21st century yada yada but unfourntalty Nolan takes his films far too seriously and gets "realistic" mixed up with "boring". Overall it makes for a rather dull filming experience. I am not talking from a 'comic book' perspective but from a film fan perspective.

Maybe thats whay begins and TDK are so boring becasue it focuses too much on batman and takes itself too seriously.

I think the third batman needs to ligthen up a little bit. Fine we have seen the dark realistic and gritty side of batman in TDK and Begins is it too much to ask for Batman 3 to be slightly more surreal and have a more interesting looking goththam city? Gotham city looked distinctly different in TDK compared to how it looked in Begins. Part of what ruined TDK was the look of gothan city i preffered the gothan in Batman Begins.

But batman is about a guy who dresses as a bat? Why does that need to be so bloody serious and dull?

I am not talking about a film that is faithful to the comics but about a movie that is enterataining.

Yep and your forgetting how a lot of the dark knight was shot in the day. Past bat films always had batman come out at night.

A film that has a guy dress as a bat does not really need to be realistic and why do we need batman to represent realism?