Parenthood (TV Show) Gives Free Publicity to Autism Speaks

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30 May 2010, 11:31 am

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Meh, I don't think giving publicity to autism speaks is really going to affect the quality of the TV show. The actors haven't changed.
I don't agree with autism speaks' methods but I'm not stopping anyone from joining them. It's up to them isn't it, we can't keep throwing tantrums everytime someone decides they agree with autism speaks.


Well we could all boycott Autism Speaks by going for anybody who promotes them or we could all cry like a baby every time somebody posts anti-Autism speaks threads in the forums. I like the first one better. Boycotting something is hardly a tantrum.

I already made a thread in the shows forums, most of the people involved in the show actually read it, and I emailed some people at NBC.



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30 May 2010, 8:32 pm

Jesus tapdancing Christ on a pogo stick.

Screening embryos for Down syndrome, etc. is completely OPTIONAL. When people advocate screening embryos for autism, they are saying it should be an option. Seeing as I have been around people with LFA, I can completely understand why a parent would choose to screen for autism.

Also, the "designer babies" argument is a red herring. "I want a baby with blue eyes and blonde hair and a 150 IQ" is nothing like "I want to see if my kid is going to have autism." And I think a lot of you are forgetting that autism is a spectrum. Your experience with autism isn't the same as a kid who can't even talk and is mentally about five years old.


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31 May 2010, 2:22 am

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Jesus tapdancing Christ on a pogo stick.

Screening embryos for Down syndrome, etc. is completely OPTIONAL. When people advocate screening embryos for autism, they are saying it should be an option. Seeing as I have been around people with LFA, I can completely understand why a parent would choose to screen for autism.

Also, the "designer babies" argument is a red herring. "I want a baby with blue eyes and blonde hair and a 150 IQ" is nothing like "I want to see if my kid is going to have autism." And I think a lot of you are forgetting that autism is a spectrum. Your experience with autism isn't the same as a kid who can't even talk and is mentally about five years old.


I don't know, you may want to look into that again, just because some autistics can't or won't communicate and some can it doesn't mean is isn't as severe, it just means they get more attention instead of everybody assuming they are just like anybody else.

And designer babies are human, not fish (but to each their own if they want a fish-child).



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31 May 2010, 8:43 am

cyb0rg wrote:
Delirium wrote:
Jesus tapdancing Christ on a pogo stick.

Screening embryos for Down syndrome, etc. is completely OPTIONAL. When people advocate screening embryos for autism, they are saying it should be an option. Seeing as I have been around people with LFA, I can completely understand why a parent would choose to screen for autism.

Also, the "designer babies" argument is a red herring. "I want a baby with blue eyes and blonde hair and a 150 IQ" is nothing like "I want to see if my kid is going to have autism." And I think a lot of you are forgetting that autism is a spectrum. Your experience with autism isn't the same as a kid who can't even talk and is mentally about five years old.


I don't know, you may want to look into that again, just because some autistics can't or won't communicate and some can it doesn't mean is isn't as severe, it just means they get more attention instead of everybody assuming they are just like anybody else.

And designer babies are human, not fish (but to each their own if they want a fish-child).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring_(logical_fallacy)#Red_herring


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31 May 2010, 1:43 pm

Just watched the episode.

"Meh." is my response.

Didn't feel anything either way...especially when you consider they have a child actor trying to portray his interpretation of someone with AS.

Don't care for the show in particular anyhow.



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31 May 2010, 9:56 pm

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Just watched the episode.

"Meh." is my response.

Didn't feel anything either way...especially when you consider they have a child actor trying to portray his interpretation of someone with AS.

Don't care for the show in particular anyhow.


Yeah, it sucks when shows like this get a second season while shows like Firefly or Flash Forward get canceled after their first (different networks, but still).



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01 Jun 2010, 6:00 am

cyb0rg wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Just watched the episode.

"Meh." is my response.

Didn't feel anything either way...especially when you consider they have a child actor trying to portray his interpretation of someone with AS.

Don't care for the show in particular anyhow.


Yeah, it sucks when shows like this get a second season while shows like Firefly or Flash Forward get canceled after their first (different networks, but still).


That's because SciFi has always been a niche market. A dedicated channel can make money off of those kinds of shows. Broadcast TV can't so they stick with what satisfies the "average" viewer (who get dumber and dumber with each passing season). :roll:



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01 Jun 2010, 8:43 am

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cyb0rg wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Just watched the episode.

"Meh." is my response.

Didn't feel anything either way...especially when you consider they have a child actor trying to portray his interpretation of someone with AS.

Don't care for the show in particular anyhow.


Yeah, it sucks when shows like this get a second season while shows like Firefly or Flash Forward get canceled after their first (different networks, but still).


That's because SciFi has always been a niche market. A dedicated channel can make money off of those kinds of shows. Broadcast TV can't so they stick with what satisfies the "average" viewer (who get dumber and dumber with each passing season). :roll:


Well, Firefly was originally on Fox, and they are notorious for canceling "smart" shows.



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24 Aug 2010, 8:14 pm

I find it highly amusing when people rant and rave that some show is "exploiting" Autism/Asperger's just because the child/adult on the show who represents it is said to be "overdramatising" the role.

Are you feeling angry because "your type" isn't being shown? Are you feeling misrepresented because you believe because you were raised without too much trouble here and there that you are the basis for all Autistic or Asperger's affected people and how they should act?

As much as we like to cry about it, there ARE kids exactly like Max (the character on the show) and Rainman. "Those types" do exist.

It's a fictional TV show. The child doesn't have Asperger's.

Also, my day is spent avoiding meltdowns at any given moment. And I do my best to recognise the warning signs to avoid them. It does not mean I am spoiling my son and that he is not learning to do things for himself. I just try to avoid bite wounds and broken objects.

Although I see your point and am in no way trying to be defiant, I just think people need to step back and realise you're not the base with which everyone with a disorder should be measured upon.

But. I am a lesbian- although I do not shave my head, hate men, like sports or own a dog. Which is 9 times out of 10, the way I would be portrayed on TV.



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13 Jan 2012, 3:02 am

Delirium wrote:
Jesus tapdancing Christ on a pogo stick.

Screening embryos for Down syndrome, etc. is completely OPTIONAL. When people advocate screening embryos for autism, they are saying it should be an option. Seeing as I have been around people with LFA, I can completely understand why a parent would choose to screen for autism.

Also, the "designer babies" argument is a red herring. "I want a baby with blue eyes and blonde hair and a 150 IQ" is nothing like "I want to see if my kid is going to have autism." And I think a lot of you are forgetting that autism is a spectrum. Your experience with autism isn't the same as a kid who can't even talk and is mentally about five years old.


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13 Jan 2012, 3:04 am

Melyssa83 wrote:
I find it highly amusing when people rant and rave that some show is "exploiting" Autism/Asperger's just because the child/adult on the show who represents it is said to be "overdramatising" the role.

Are you feeling angry because "your type" isn't being shown? Are you feeling misrepresented because you believe because you were raised without too much trouble here and there that you are the basis for all Autistic or Asperger's affected people and how they should act?

As much as we like to cry about it, there ARE kids exactly like Max (the character on the show) and Rainman. "Those types" do exist.

It's a fictional TV show. The child doesn't have Asperger's.

Also, my day is spent avoiding meltdowns at any given moment. And I do my best to recognise the warning signs to avoid them. It does not mean I am spoiling my son and that he is not learning to do things for himself. I just try to avoid bite wounds and broken objects.

Although I see your point and am in no way trying to be defiant, I just think people need to step back and realise you're not the base with which everyone with a disorder should be measured upon.

But. I am a lesbian- although I do not shave my head, hate men, like sports or own a dog. Which is 9 times out of 10, the way I would be portrayed on TV.


how in the world are they overdoing it anyways ? they must think the other kid is off the charts then (the other aspie). You can't over do it... people vary... if they do it tamer someone else similar to them will be complaining about it's too tame.



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13 Jan 2012, 12:19 pm

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I don't want to hijack the thread, but is that really all? I'm sure there are many (including myself) who would give just about anything for a cure.


You're right, that is hijacking this thread, but the "cure" they are looking for is prenatal early detection, meaning they want to "cure" autism by eugenics and abortion.


I can understand completely why someone would not want to have an autistic child. I've ben around lower-functioning autistic children, and I feel sorry for them and their parents.

It's no different than having early detection for Down syndrome.


But it's also no different from insisting on the stereotypical "perfect child." All of these have the same goal as eugenics, so all of these are eugenics.