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shivanataraja
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01 Sep 2005, 12:03 pm

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You can't say Graphic Novels anymore, its not pretentious enough. you have to say Periodical Visual Narrative.

LOL... i've read a few Sandman TPBs*, the one that i liked best was "a Game Of You" IIRC, but IMO Gaiman isn't quite on the level of Alan Moore or Grant Morrison... i think i like him best when he is most strongly influenced by them (the early Sandman stuff was fairly heavily influenced by Swamp Thing and Hellblazer, IIRC)...

i can't understand how *any* serious comics fan could hate Moore's Swamp Thing... IMO it's possibly the greatest and most inventive single author run on a relatively "mainstream" comic ever, and it kicked off the intelligent/subversive era of comics which produced Gaiman, Morrison, Ennis, etc (and created the Vertigo imprint which features most of the best of their work)... tho i guess you might not like it if you're not into the environmental or metaphysical subtexts...

aside: Tom, i see u live in Coventry... do u know Larry Arnold (aka Laurentius Rex) and/or Coventry & Warwickshire Neurodiversity Group?

i'm a fairly frequent visitor to the Forbidden Planet in Coventry, when i have any money...

*strictly speaking, they're TPBs (trade paperbacks) if they're collected from issues of an original series and published in book form, and graphic novels if they were written/published as a single book without having been individual monthly comics... but the terms tend to get used interchangeably...



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01 Sep 2005, 12:05 pm

shivanataraja wrote:

aside: Tom, i see u live in Coventry... do u know Larry Arnold (aka Laurentius Rex) and/or Coventry & Warwickshire Neurodiversity Group?




I've been to a few midlands aspie meetups but I must say I'm not familiar with these names.



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01 Sep 2005, 1:13 pm

Well I'm not a serious comic book fan but I tried a little of Moore's Swamp Thing... I got kind of pissed off when Superman suddenly popped up in the middle of a horror comic. I LOVE Watchmen and like some of Moore's other stuff but Swamp Thing just isn't my cup of tea.


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13 Sep 2005, 12:30 am

tom wrote:
I never read Gaiman's novels, I've heard bad reviews, people have said that he can't write real novels and that his books are all rejected scripts for his comics. I keep meaning to see what they're like.

Having read both the graphic novels and the regular novels, I have to say that Gaiman ranks among the good ones. American Gods is probably my favorite. I like Charles deLint, Tony Hillerman and Stephen Dedman better, but I still read everything Gaiman writes because it fills the gap - reading books is like breathing to me.


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