30 Apr 2023, 1:42 pm
Recidivist wrote:
Not opposite views , I did say apart from some timelines, i.e I don't think Leiff & Freydis were even alive when Harald was born?
I struggle with the disconnect (between lips and dialogue) when watching dubbed so never indulge. As I watch TV with my GF mostly, subtitles is also not an option due to her dyslexia and me not wanting to narrate.
Don't forget this thread when you finally watch Vikings so you can come back and call me out
I struggle with the disconnect (between lips and dialogue) when watching dubbed so never indulge. As I watch TV with my GF mostly, subtitles is also not an option due to her dyslexia and me not wanting to narrate.
Don't forget this thread when you finally watch Vikings so you can come back and call me out
Sorry, I'm busy rushing around cooking and dealing with family so I didn't read too closely.
I generally don't watch dubbed shows but made an exception for Barbarians, it is soooo good and really interesting historically. I just love seeing the Romans getting their arses kicked.
I shall come and question you when I watch Vikings one day.
30 Apr 2023, 2:27 pm
Running a household is a flimsy argument
I will give Barbarians a look but only as you recommend it.
I await your dissertation on the historical inaccuracies between Vikings & Vikings Valhalla with bated breath
30 Apr 2023, 2:31 pm
Recidivist wrote:
I await your dissertation on the historical inaccuracies between Vikings & Vikings Valhalla with bated breath
You'll be holding your breath for a long time then.
01 May 2023, 4:14 am
KitLily wrote:
Anyway. I really loved this show. It seemed pretty accurate, apart from the fact that Uhtred wasn't a real person. Although apparently he was based on an ancestor of the author, Bernard Cornwell.
Most of the main characters were real of course i.e. Alfred and his family, the Vikings, and the majority of events were real. Obviously the battles, the way King Edward met his third wife (I think that is a really cute story), the mysterious life of King Athelstan etc.
I thought Alexander Dreymon did a sterling job of portraying Uhtred, especially his Germanic accent, which is apparently his real accent as he is German. I loved the accents of the English and Scandinavians, how English is kind of midway between German and Scandinavian. Because of course that's where we got most of our language from!
Of course how much I loved this show had nothing to do with how often the guys took their clothes off
Apparently people viewed The Last Kingdom as the inferior cousin of the show Vikings. But in the end, it overtook Vikings as more popular and realistic. Hoorah! And of course the other thing I liked was how some of the characters in TLK were the sons of Ragnar from Vikings but obviously much older.
Most of the main characters were real of course i.e. Alfred and his family, the Vikings, and the majority of events were real. Obviously the battles, the way King Edward met his third wife (I think that is a really cute story), the mysterious life of King Athelstan etc.
I thought Alexander Dreymon did a sterling job of portraying Uhtred, especially his Germanic accent, which is apparently his real accent as he is German. I loved the accents of the English and Scandinavians, how English is kind of midway between German and Scandinavian. Because of course that's where we got most of our language from!
Of course how much I loved this show had nothing to do with how often the guys took their clothes off
Apparently people viewed The Last Kingdom as the inferior cousin of the show Vikings. But in the end, it overtook Vikings as more popular and realistic. Hoorah! And of course the other thing I liked was how some of the characters in TLK were the sons of Ragnar from Vikings but obviously much older.
^^^ Agree with everything said. The acting in Vikings was out of this world. The character who played Floki (Gustaf Skarsgård) must have gone into a trance and become Floki (amazing). Travis Fimmel (Ragnar) and Alex Høgh Andersen (Ivar the Boneless) were also incredible,
01 May 2023, 4:19 am
Recidivist wrote:
KitLily wrote:
If Vikings ever arrives on a free channel, I'll watch it.
I really love Vikings Valhalla though. Series 1 was good. But series 2 was fantastic! The boat journey storyline was riveting.
I really love Vikings Valhalla though. Series 1 was good. But series 2 was fantastic! The boat journey storyline was riveting.
I didn't enjoy Valhalla as much (it was good though) and funnily enough it is supposedly more accurate on its historical facts (apart from some timelines). And if you liked the character Freydís in Valhalla you'll fall in love with Lagertha in Vikings
Agreed! Vikings Valhalla made the real life character of Freydis into a heroine when in historic reality she was actually a mass murderer (according to Viking sagas about her father Leif Erickson) who killed many of her own people out of vengeance and spite.
01 May 2023, 4:23 am
KitLily wrote:
Recidivist wrote:
I await your dissertation on the historical inaccuracies between Vikings & Vikings Valhalla with bated breath
You'll be holding your breath for a long time then.
One criticism of V.Valhalla is it attempts to lionise the main protaganists whereas Vikings does show the character flaws, the life of violence normalises and enhances latent psychopathic tendencies. Quite a contrast to the modern Scandanavians who mostly peace loving and barely put up any resistance against Hitler and let him run through their country back in WWII.
I note the Mongols are much the same, they are a shadow of the warrior society that once ruled half the world.
01 May 2023, 7:06 am
cyberdad wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Anyway. I really loved this show. It seemed pretty accurate, apart from the fact that Uhtred wasn't a real person. Although apparently he was based on an ancestor of the author, Bernard Cornwell.
Most of the main characters were real of course i.e. Alfred and his family, the Vikings, and the majority of events were real. Obviously the battles, the way King Edward met his third wife (I think that is a really cute story), the mysterious life of King Athelstan etc.
I thought Alexander Dreymon did a sterling job of portraying Uhtred, especially his Germanic accent, which is apparently his real accent as he is German. I loved the accents of the English and Scandinavians, how English is kind of midway between German and Scandinavian. Because of course that's where we got most of our language from!
Of course how much I loved this show had nothing to do with how often the guys took their clothes off
Apparently people viewed The Last Kingdom as the inferior cousin of the show Vikings. But in the end, it overtook Vikings as more popular and realistic. Hoorah! And of course the other thing I liked was how some of the characters in TLK were the sons of Ragnar from Vikings but obviously much older.
Most of the main characters were real of course i.e. Alfred and his family, the Vikings, and the majority of events were real. Obviously the battles, the way King Edward met his third wife (I think that is a really cute story), the mysterious life of King Athelstan etc.
I thought Alexander Dreymon did a sterling job of portraying Uhtred, especially his Germanic accent, which is apparently his real accent as he is German. I loved the accents of the English and Scandinavians, how English is kind of midway between German and Scandinavian. Because of course that's where we got most of our language from!
Of course how much I loved this show had nothing to do with how often the guys took their clothes off
Apparently people viewed The Last Kingdom as the inferior cousin of the show Vikings. But in the end, it overtook Vikings as more popular and realistic. Hoorah! And of course the other thing I liked was how some of the characters in TLK were the sons of Ragnar from Vikings but obviously much older.
^^^ Agree with everything said. The acting in Vikings was out of this world. The character who played Floki (Gustaf Skarsgård) must have gone into a trance and become Floki (amazing). Travis Fimmel (Ragnar) and Alex Høgh Andersen (Ivar the Boneless) were also incredible,
But you know I was talking about The Last Kingdom? I haven't watched Vikings yet.
Did you watch The Last Kingdom?
01 May 2023, 7:11 am
01 May 2023, 7:39 am
KitLily wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
KitLily wrote:
Anyway. I really loved this show. It seemed pretty accurate, apart from the fact that Uhtred wasn't a real person. Although apparently he was based on an ancestor of the author, Bernard Cornwell.
Most of the main characters were real of course i.e. Alfred and his family, the Vikings, and the majority of events were real. Obviously the battles, the way King Edward met his third wife (I think that is a really cute story), the mysterious life of King Athelstan etc.
I thought Alexander Dreymon did a sterling job of portraying Uhtred, especially his Germanic accent, which is apparently his real accent as he is German. I loved the accents of the English and Scandinavians, how English is kind of midway between German and Scandinavian. Because of course that's where we got most of our language from!
Of course how much I loved this show had nothing to do with how often the guys took their clothes off
Apparently people viewed The Last Kingdom as the inferior cousin of the show Vikings. But in the end, it overtook Vikings as more popular and realistic. Hoorah! And of course the other thing I liked was how some of the characters in TLK were the sons of Ragnar from Vikings but obviously much older.
Most of the main characters were real of course i.e. Alfred and his family, the Vikings, and the majority of events were real. Obviously the battles, the way King Edward met his third wife (I think that is a really cute story), the mysterious life of King Athelstan etc.
I thought Alexander Dreymon did a sterling job of portraying Uhtred, especially his Germanic accent, which is apparently his real accent as he is German. I loved the accents of the English and Scandinavians, how English is kind of midway between German and Scandinavian. Because of course that's where we got most of our language from!
Of course how much I loved this show had nothing to do with how often the guys took their clothes off
Apparently people viewed The Last Kingdom as the inferior cousin of the show Vikings. But in the end, it overtook Vikings as more popular and realistic. Hoorah! And of course the other thing I liked was how some of the characters in TLK were the sons of Ragnar from Vikings but obviously much older.
^^^ Agree with everything said. The acting in Vikings was out of this world. The character who played Floki (Gustaf Skarsgård) must have gone into a trance and become Floki (amazing). Travis Fimmel (Ragnar) and Alex Høgh Andersen (Ivar the Boneless) were also incredible,
But you know I was talking about The Last Kingdom? I haven't watched Vikings yet.
Did you watch The Last Kingdom?
Yes watched all 4 seasons
01 May 2023, 7:42 am
01 May 2023, 9:32 am
cyberdad wrote:
^^^ Agree with everything said. The acting in Vikings was out of this world. The character who played Floki (Gustaf Skarsgård) must have gone into a trance and become Floki (amazing). Travis Fimmel (Ragnar) and Alex Høgh Andersen (Ivar the Boneless) were also incredible,
kitlily wrote:
But you know I was talking about The Last Kingdom? I haven't watched Vikings yet.
Did you watch The Last Kingdom?
Did you watch The Last Kingdom?
cyberdad wrote:
Yes watched all 4 seasons
Ah right you were talking about the acting in Vikings so you confused me
I thought the acting in TLK was brilliant. Especially the younger actors, some of them were outstanding for teenagers and twenty somethings. e.g. Edward and Athelstan.
01 May 2023, 9:36 am
01 May 2023, 4:40 pm
The best actor in TLK was Alfred (I can't recall his name) but actually he doesn't look much like the original King but just goes to show one cannot conflate acting with casting. The others were good, (Dreymon's German accent was a little out of place but then again the cast were supposed to be sprechen die Anglish ) lookout for the Jarl of Beauflot, he's brilliant.
01 May 2023, 4:43 pm
KitLily wrote:
Yes, Scandinavian philosophy of life is so much better than English and Americans. English are the most backward. Germans and Dutch are far, far ahead of us in progressive thinking and how they treat their citizens.
Yes the English suffer some type of conservative arrogance, not sure why, a lot of it (surprisingly) rubs of on Australians. We are (after all) the worst element of British society (convicts) cast out of the motherland
01 May 2023, 6:33 pm
Off Topic
Have any of you watched The Northman, a great film but not your typical Viking film imo, highly recommend, although there's magic in the film the director tried to make it as historically accurate (not the story) as possible, it is loosely based on the story of Amleth , @Isabella & KitLily, Alexander Skarsgård take his top off a lot 
02 May 2023, 2:44 am
cyberdad wrote:
The best actor in TLK was Alfred (I can't recall his name) but actually he doesn't look much like the original King but just goes to show one cannot conflate acting with casting. The others were good, (Dreymon's German accent was a little out of place but then again the cast were supposed to be sprechen die Anglish ) lookout for the Jarl of Beauflot, he's brilliant.
) lookout for the Jarl of Beauflot, he's brilliant.David Dawson. I don't know what the actual King Alfred looked like, there aren't any photos of him
I loved the accents. I loved the differences between the guttural German, the sing songy Danish and the in-between English. Really well done. And apparently they deliberately cast Scandinavians as the Danes because they look different to the English. That was their actual reason.
You say you watched all 4 seasons. Did you know there are 5 seasons and a film to tie up the loose ends? The film is called Seven Kings Must Die, I watched it a few weeks ago. That is the film that has King Athelstan in, played by a brilliant young actor. As was his father King Edward. The standard of acting of the younger ones is outstanding.
As I said, the story of how King Edward met his 3rd wife is so sweet. As is the story of King Alfred burning the cakes. That sort of thing really makes these historical characters human and relatable.
