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23 Sep 2007, 11:36 pm

I will be called a blasphemer for this.

Citizen Kane.


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24 Sep 2007, 11:29 am

God, where to start.

I loved that someone else thought Elizabeth was overrated. I hate-hate-HATED it, and I simply cannot see what was so great about it. That tops me list easily.

Other films I choose to politely disagree about:

anything by Quentin Tarantino - what he does is fine for what it is but it doesn't deserve the hype
A Clockwork Orange - I absolutely love the novel, and absoutely hate the film
The Matrix - i like this film for entertainment, but all its pseudo-philosophical pretenses don't add up to anything nearly as profound as some people think it does
Shakespeare in Love
There's Something About Mary, or pretty much any Ben Stiller movie
BBC's Casanova, or anything else that overpaid, pompous hack Russell T Davies has done
Donnie Darko - I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
Mystic River
Crash
The Life of David Gale - I'm with Roger Ebert on this one
Magnolia
The Bad Lieutenent
American Pie
Army of Darkness
Pretty Woman
Being John Malkovich - too clever for its own good
anything by Vincent Gallo - the dude's creepy and wholly untalented, sorry
anything by Kevin Smith - and I'm Gen X enough to "get" him
anything starring John Wayne
Gone With the Wind
Blue Velvet and Eraserhead - Lynch is an interesting director but these films are genuinely crap

and so many others....

The most recent overrated film I've seen was Death at a Funeral, which was bad, bad, bad Americanized British comedy. I nearly walked out on it, but managed to stay somehow. I regret that. I definitely wish I hadn't seen the Uncle Alfie in the bathroom scene.



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24 Sep 2007, 11:36 am

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"Elizabeth"- That was one movie where I was really disappointed, as the story was really bad, with the timeline being all over the place. I don't have much hope for the sequel, "The Golden Age" about to hit the theaters, since the real Elizabeth I wore a breastplate at the most when she addrssed the troops at Tilbury.


I know!! ! I saw that too and thought "What? Is she suppose to be Joan of Ark or something??" I'm going to pass on this. I only saw Elizabeth because I love Christopher Eccleston, but he's not in this sequel, so I'm not even tempted.



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24 Sep 2007, 1:40 pm

Movies with Tom Hanks:
Forest Gump (not bad but way overrated)
Apollo 13
Road to Perdition
Saving Private Ryan (Though I’ll admit I don’t really “get” serious war movies, Rambo is more entertaining)

Disaster movies:
Titanic (Boring, too much pretentious sentimental stuff)
Armageddon (Ugh! Bad directing / poor special effects)
Day After Tomorrow (had fun laughing at the inaccurate/impossible science and ret*d plot devices)

I guess the only recent disaster movie I liked was War of the Worlds because the tripods were scary and kicked ass.



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24 Sep 2007, 1:41 pm

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I will be called a blasphemer for this.

Citizen Kane.


I guess that I am guilty of blasphemy also: Can anyone explain why this film is considered to be the best of all time?



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24 Sep 2007, 3:58 pm

Plutonian_Persona wrote:
GoatOnFire wrote:
I will be called a blasphemer for this.

Citizen Kane.


I guess that I am guilty of blasphemy also: Can anyone explain why this film is considered to be the best of all time?


Because it is ridiculously obtuse so that critics become afraid of being considered unartistic if they don't rant and rave about it. Even if it is a dull flick, like Citizen Kane is. You're supposed to pretend that it's fine art.

It's the same sort of thing that lets certain abstract artists get away with wiping their ass, keeping the piece of toilet paper, naming it something ethereal, presenting it as art, and selling it for thousands of dollars.

I don't trust the critics because of this. Therefore, because Citizen Kane is considered by the critics to be the best of all time, it is the most overrated movie of all time. I don't care what rosebud is.


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24 Sep 2007, 4:09 pm

GoatOnFire wrote:
Plutonian_Persona wrote:
GoatOnFire wrote:
I will be called a blasphemer for this.

Citizen Kane.


I guess that I am guilty of blasphemy also: Can anyone explain why this film is considered to be the best of all time?


Because it is ridiculously obtuse so that critics become afraid of being considered unartistic if they don't rant and rave about it. Even if it is a dull flick, like Citizen Kane is. You're supposed to pretend that it's fine art.

It's the same sort of thing that lets certain abstract artists get away with wiping their ass, keeping the piece of toilet paper, naming it something ethereal, presenting it as art, and selling it for thousands of dollars.

I don't trust the critics because of this. Therefore, because Citizen Kane is considered by the critics to be the best of all time, it is the most overrated movie of all time. I don't care what rosebud is.


:D Ah, the old lemming mentality of most people...AHHHHHHHHH over the cliff I go! :D



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24 Sep 2007, 5:16 pm

Plutonian_Persona wrote:
GoatOnFire wrote:
Plutonian_Persona wrote:
GoatOnFire wrote:
I will be called a blasphemer for this.

Citizen Kane.


I guess that I am guilty of blasphemy also: Can anyone explain why this film is considered to be the best of all time?


Because it is ridiculously obtuse so that critics become afraid of being considered unartistic if they don't rant and rave about it. Even if it is a dull flick, like Citizen Kane is. You're supposed to pretend that it's fine art.

It's the same sort of thing that lets certain abstract artists get away with wiping their ass, keeping the piece of toilet paper, naming it something ethereal, presenting it as art, and selling it for thousands of dollars.

I don't trust the critics because of this. Therefore, because Citizen Kane is considered by the critics to be the best of all time, it is the most overrated movie of all time. I don't care what rosebud is.


:D Ah, the old lemming mentality of most people...AHHHHHHHHH over the cliff I go! :D


the amout of new cinematographic techs Wells used, make this film important, not really the storyline at all. the uses of fake but realistic news reel footage, and camera techs that have become cinematography 101. go to film school and you will know why this film is important... but all the techs Wells invented are now used by all, so to people of our era it doesnt seem very remarkable.


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24 Sep 2007, 10:44 pm

Citizen Kane is one of those movies that is remembered because it was important to at time, not because it's particularly good. We recently watched a Spanish film "Spirit of the Beehive" in my college class, and it had a very large impact on Spanish cinema because it was basically anti-Franco without being overt about it, and it COULDN'T have been overt because of the control of the media that Franco had. But that said, if you don't spend hours analysing it, it's a boring as s**t film. There's this one shot of it that's just a 2 minute close up of a woman sleeping. SERIOUSLY! I TIMED IT! I never thought a film could be more boring than "Lost in Translation," but apparently I was wrong.

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anything by Kevin Smith - and I'm Gen X enough to "get" him


THANK you. I'm sorry, but I didn't laugh much during "Clerks." I was irritated throughout most of it because I found Randall's character so irritating.

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Blue Velvet and Eraserhead - Lynch is an interesting director but these films are genuinely crap


I never got into David Lynch. "Lost Highway" is supposed to be his best. I rented that, basically hated it, so I didn't bother with the others. I like horror, but I don't like nonsensical horror. Still, he has his own style, and I can respect him for it...I just don't like it.



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24 Sep 2007, 10:54 pm

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Scarface=most overrated movie (in American popular culture) ever.


You know, I agree with this statement whole heartedly. The only line that made me laugh in the whole entire movie was when he went "das ok, anoder qualude she love me again". The movie wasn't all that cool, it was like watching one big drawn out train wreck. And I normally like those kind of crime dramas.



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25 Sep 2007, 5:14 pm

Ah hah! I knew someone would take offense to me saying Citizen Kane was overrated. I do not reverse my position. Just because it was an important movie doesn't make it great. Calling it the greatest movie of all time is a bit much, therefore I consider it a badly overrated movie.


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26 Sep 2007, 3:35 pm

Distrubia
I liked it a lot but hated how the producers changed most of the plotline of "Rear Window" just to be more appropriate for teenage consumption.


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27 Sep 2007, 8:57 am

HARRY POTTER


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27 Sep 2007, 10:30 pm

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BLASPHEMY, YOU MUDBLOOD! XD

(Kidding.)



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