Poll: Who grew up with PBS in their childhood like myself?

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14 Sep 2005, 4:06 am

mikibacsi1124 wrote:
I think Elmo was okay when he was just a supporting character. When he started to become the star of the show, THAT'S when things started going down the toilet. Well, and the deaths of Jim Henson and Joe Raposo didn't help either.


I don't know any program that gave Muppets renown fame before Sesame Street. So the show had to be the first to really utilize them, in my opinion. Long before the Muppet Show, and all of the Muppet Movies. So when Jim Henson passed away, it did really put the show at a crossroads. Since the innovator of the programs most important feature was gone as well the voice of many of the characters, where does the show go now?

Oh, and Bert and Ernie were never gay. They just had a heart-warming relationship. They were openly faithful to each other.



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14 Sep 2005, 9:29 am

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Some people say that Sesame Street, and other education shows have been dumbed down, I wouldn't know since I don't watch much and don't have any kids.

But many say Elmo started the fall of Sesame Street. Y'all think the same thing?
I mean that little muppet shouldn't have to have half of the program alloted to him teaching nothing... If that is what the critics really say. That's what I read and heard about.


Actually I'm an Elmo fan and so are my two children and they seem to learn a fair bit from just Elmo's segment alone. It addresses much younger children than the other parts of Sesame Street does so it doesn't leave out babies and toddlers that don't quite understand alphabet and letters and all. You have to remember Elmo was introduced in 1984... he was intended to be a 3 1/2 yr old monster, that is why kids relate better especially in baby/toddler years to the character than likely to a lot of the other characters. He is essentially on their peer level. His level of communication is easier for them to adapt to. I wouldn't say Elmo started the fall of Sesame Street. There are many other factors... they didn't upgrade as well with each generation unfortunately either. There are cartoon segments on there that date back to when I was like 5 or 6 yrs old... I'm going on 32. I think the issue is what may have also worked when I was a child with kids, doesn't with the newer generations and in some ways, you can't keep something the same and expect a newer generation to adopt it and all like it's the greatest thing when there are shows like "Blue's Clues" and all that are more up to date and all.



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14 Sep 2005, 8:33 pm

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I watched a lot of Public Television when I was about 7 or 8 years old during the summertime. I don't know if I learned much from it.

Interesting no one has yet to mention Reading Rainbow
I really couldn't follow it too much. I had to watch it in school when I was about 7 years old, along with the Electric Company. But I never really focused well on them.


Anyone else remeber this one program from Canada? It was called Today's Special. It was learning show that was set at a department store that taught about friendship and everyday life at a department store during closing hours, especially in the toy section.


Oh god yeah! reading rainbow! And wasn't the episode where they looked at the set of "Star trek- next generatino" like Aspie heaven?


Heck yeah! That was my absolute favourite episode of the entire show! It was amazing how they went behind the scenes and showed everyone how they did some of the simpler special effects and all of that, as well as how many times they had to shoot the scenes to get all the camera angles just right. If you were wondering, I saw it with my younger brother sometime this summer, so that's how I remember all the random details. ;)


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14 Sep 2005, 10:33 pm

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I just had a flashback a few moments before writing this when I was re-reading the thread.

When I was a child, and watched Mr. Rogers, I saw a broad arrangement of episodes and PBS. Some episodes featured him much younger with dark hair. And then I saw some more recent ones (at that time) where he did have salt and pepper, or gray hair. Yeah I did question it a little as a child, but I really didn't care at all. It was the same show, same agenda, same message. And these were all in the same calendar year. Somewhere in the mid-80s.

I probably would've known who the more recent Señor would've been anyways since I, like most, would end up learning the process of aging and seeing what an older person looked like in the past as a younger person. Freaky at first, but interesenting.

So I wouldn't know why they wouldn't show older ones to kids? Do they fear that they would suffer a fear of getting older? Or think that a person can change looks in a snap?

Beats me.

Of course somtime in the 90s, don't know which part. I saw they had shows stating "Copyright 1971 or '72" or something like that.


Yeah, I remember the early episodes from when I was a kid. I could tell them apart because of the different-looking model neighborhood, the walls inside being painted beige instead of blue, and the different closing song ("Tomorrow" instead of "Good Feeling"), but these didn't really freak me out or anything like that. In fact, I've become fascinated with the changes made over the years.

For the record, the show produced 65 episodes a year from 1969-75. Then in 1976, a week's worth of clip shows were produced, and the show then went out of production for three years. Then in 1979, they started producing new episodes again, but not at the same rate. Eventually there were enough new episodes for them to start gradually phasing out older shows year by year. The last of the "pre-79" shows were phased out in 1994 or 1995, I believe.

But yeah, I see no reason not to dust off these episodes again. After all, parents are going to have to explain to their kids sooner or later that Fred has passed away. And quite frankly, I'm not even sure if the differences over the years would even be that noticeable to most NT kids - I just happened to pay a lot of attention to them due to my Aspie mind. Furthermore, it's not like Fred didn't age between 1979 and 2001 (the last year of production), and other changes occured during that 22-year span as well.



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15 Sep 2005, 2:34 pm

I watched PBS around 7 or 8. I watched Sesame Street and Lamb Chop Play Along. Also my favorite at that time was Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. They were good learning tools for me at that time.



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15 Sep 2005, 3:03 pm

Namiko wrote:
Serissa wrote:
nocturnalowl wrote:
I watched a lot of Public Television when I was about 7 or 8 years old during the summertime. I don't know if I learned much from it.

Interesting no one has yet to mention Reading Rainbow
I really couldn't follow it too much. I had to watch it in school when I was about 7 years old, along with the Electric Company. But I never really focused well on them.


Anyone else remeber this one program from Canada? It was called Today's Special. It was learning show that was set at a department store that taught about friendship and everyday life at a department store during closing hours, especially in the toy section.


Oh god yeah! reading rainbow! And wasn't the episode where they looked at the set of "Star trek- next generatino" like Aspie heaven?


Heck yeah! That was my absolute favourite episode of the entire show! It was amazing how they went behind the scenes and showed everyone how they did some of the simpler special effects and all of that, as well as how many times they had to shoot the scenes to get all the camera angles just right. If you were wondering, I saw it with my younger brother sometime this summer, so that's how I remember all the random details. ;)


It's also not so surprising that Reading Rainbow did a feature Star Trek:TNG since RR's host, Levar Burton, was in the cast as Mr. LaForge. I thought the space eye frames seemed cool at first.



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16 Sep 2005, 8:47 am

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16 Sep 2005, 1:19 pm

Maybe you could try to get them into The Electric Company when the DVD comes out. :)

I've never seen the other shows you mentioned though (in fact, I've never even heard of Hot Fudge). Of course, I'm a child of the late 80s/early 90s.



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23 Jan 2008, 6:08 pm

yes i remember the pbs cartoon, my fav shows, lamb chops play along, mister rogers reading rainbow, shining time station and another show NOBODY mentioned, it was caled kidsongs, its a music video type show with kids running a studio

for those who dont remember:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTGgQejjbIQ[/youtube]

^^^^^^ loved that show soo much when they took it off the air I CRIED!!


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23 Jan 2008, 9:22 pm

I used to watch Sesame Street and the Electric Company as a child. As an adult, I still enjoy Sagwa, The Chinese Siamese Cat.