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19 Feb 2009, 2:47 am

I have a simple answer for all of this: movies are created by humans. Humans are prone to stupidity....in fact, half the things I see going on in your typical Jason flick I COULD SEE happening in real life, sadly....save for the zombie Jason coming back from the dead and killing everyone.

Half my classmates used to do it all the time.

It's just human stupidity. I know you frown on it, and you wish it made more sense, well...SO DO I!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !



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19 Feb 2009, 2:52 am

But there IS one particular situation where I wish continuity would've been better followed: an episode of the Simpsons...and this was before the series REALLY went downhill:

Artie Ziff wants to re-create the night he and Marge were to go to the prom.

well, unfortunately, Disco Inferno is playing during this re-enactment...but wait...I thought Homer met Marge and she ditched Artie in 1976? Disco Inferno was a Trammps song from 1977!

And to top it off....Chief Wiggum is there. But wait...wasn't Chief Wiggum shown to have been a teenager in the 1960s?

Y'know...I remember bringing this detail up to my psychologist/psychiatrist.....now I know why he diagnosed me with AS :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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24 Feb 2009, 7:30 pm

Cyberman wrote:
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Two words: The Happening

I haven't seen that movie, and I doubt I ever will... the title alone is an insult to the audience's intelligence. It's like "OMG, this movie has something HAPPENING in it!" :roll:


Two lines from the movie:

"An event is happening"

"I've just received word that whatever's happening isn't happening 70 (or whoever far it was) miles away from here (of course, he failed to mention what direction "70 miles away from here" was



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24 Feb 2009, 8:13 pm

pakled wrote:
there is (isn't there always?...;) a web site out there about 'what they got wrong' in each movie made...things like Bruce Willis calling from a phone booth in 'Washington' marked 'Pacific Bell', etc.

Can't remember the name of it (gettin' old...;)

http://www.moviemistakes.com/ ?

It's quite fun.


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28 Feb 2009, 6:55 pm

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Another pet peeve: it´s clear that people want to make their movies "spicy" and "sizzling", and get viewers. Nowadays, it´s common to use sex in movies as a "thriller", and we live in a culture that is somewhat obsessed by sex (I think), especially quick sex, which is acceptable in our culture. So I hate it when I watch a movie from another time period, where quick sex was supposedly looked down upon, and the characters still have sex, because that´s what people like to see NOWADAYS. There were times when the social mores were different, and people who had sex too quickly would have been considered bad marriage material, and would not have been respected. Yet they do it anyway, as if the customs of our time applied to their time. This really bothers me, it´s just so unrealistic. Yes, there are loads of anachronisms in movies, all the time....
That's my pet peeve too.


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28 Feb 2009, 9:35 pm

just remembered another one. Terrorists hijack a plane, and a stealth plane loads commandos from underneath the plane into the baggage area. The finally find the bomb, and they show a (non-techs wouldn't get this) a hard drive with the covers off, heads and platters jerking in a random way...;) bought laughed myself silly at this; the thing wouldn't run 5 minutes that way...;)



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28 Jun 2009, 3:31 pm

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Yes. I hate when cars explode after being shot a few times. That is never going to happen in real life unless you are using some serious firepower or some heavy AP ammunition.


That bugs me to no end! Thats why I have a hard time getting into action movies- those hollywood explosions:P


The Birds has also been mentioned, that was the dumbest movie I believe I have ever seen.


I tend to notice more when there are costume discrepancies or inconsistencies in cartoons(one frame the guy is wearing a blue shirt and the next frame its a white shirt, things like that). In The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe, Oreius(the Centaur, General of the army of Aslan), when you first see him in the movie he has the body of a black horse, but every other time you see him in the movie his body is brown.

Something else is the use of correct languages--- I watched Valkyrie a couple weeks ago and I was so pissed, Hitler spoke english, ENGLISH!! In the whole movie I dont think there were any german speaking people(but I slept through most of it after Hitler spoke english). Tom Cruise playes German army officer Claus von Stauffenberg, he spoke plain english and didnt even bother producing a german accent. All of the German resistance spoke english, I doubt that in the 1940s the german army and politicians spoke casual english to each other, they would be speaking their native language. At least in Schindlers List they had some german speaking people in the movie and the english actors tried to have an accent. IMHO, they should have been spoken in german and had english subtitles.


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28 Jun 2009, 3:44 pm

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Something else is the use of correct languages--- I watched Valkyrie a couple weeks ago and I was so pissed, Hitler spoke english, ENGLISH!! In the whole movie I dont think there were any german speaking people(but I slept through most of it after Hitler spoke english). Tom Cruise playes German army officer Claus von Stauffenberg, he spoke plain english and didnt even bother producing a german accent. All of the German resistance spoke english, I doubt that in the 1940s the german army and politicians spoke casual english to each other, they would be speaking their native language. At least in Schindlers List they had some german speaking people in the movie and the english actors tried to have an accent. IMHO, they should have been spoken in german and had english subtitles.


That's because a lot of people don't like subtitles. But I agree that movies are better when they're in the correct language.


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28 Jun 2009, 3:52 pm

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Something else is the use of correct languages--- I watched Valkyrie a couple weeks ago and I was so pissed, Hitler spoke english, ENGLISH!! In the whole movie I dont think there were any german speaking people(but I slept through most of it after Hitler spoke english). Tom Cruise playes German army officer Claus von Stauffenberg, he spoke plain english and didnt even bother producing a german accent. All of the German resistance spoke english, I doubt that in the 1940s the german army and politicians spoke casual english to each other, they would be speaking their native language. At least in Schindlers List they had some german speaking people in the movie and the english actors tried to have an accent. IMHO, they should have been spoken in german and had english subtitles.


That's because a lot of people don't like subtitles. But I agree that movies are better when they're in the correct language.




I know, but its just unrealistic.


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28 Jun 2009, 4:05 pm

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Something else is the use of correct languages--- I watched Valkyrie a couple weeks ago and I was so pissed, Hitler spoke english, ENGLISH!! In the whole movie I dont think there were any german speaking people(but I slept through most of it after Hitler spoke english). Tom Cruise playes German army officer Claus von Stauffenberg, he spoke plain english and didnt even bother producing a german accent. All of the German resistance spoke english, I doubt that in the 1940s the german army and politicians spoke casual english to each other, they would be speaking their native language. At least in Schindlers List they had some german speaking people in the movie and the english actors tried to have an accent. IMHO, they should have been spoken in german and had english subtitles.


That's because a lot of people don't like subtitles. But I agree that movies are better when they're in the correct language.


I know, but its just unrealistic.


I agree, yeah.


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28 Jun 2009, 4:49 pm

One of the most glaring inaccuracies in the movies is that in space, spaceships go "Whoosh" and explosions go "BANG!" ? There is no sound in space, it should all be blissful silence.


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28 Jun 2009, 6:22 pm

This often irritates me. Not because I'm just being anal about details, but because good fiction needs to come across as believable. Missing important details and facts only ruins the experience.



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28 Jun 2009, 10:40 pm

Interesting insights about musicals, everyone.

I used to think of musicals the same way and think of them as really strange or obnoxious or illogical, and then I realized that unless the plot dictates otherwise, like when the characters consciously mention a song, the singing IS the method of speech and communication. Just like how iambic pentameter is the method of communication in Shakespeare or exclusive singing is the method of communication in opera, so it goes with musicals. It's as if the characters are speaking normally to each other, but put through a filter of song and dance that is visible only the audience.



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30 Jun 2009, 8:33 pm

You want inconsistencies? Watch Wolverine.
Actually, don't... 'cause it was terrible.

*SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRE MOVIE AHEAD* *YOU'VE BEEN WARNED*

*deep breath*
First off, eye color. If Hugh Jackman and wive/gf-character are supposed to have blue eyes, please stick with the blue contacts. Don't switch to brown between cuts. Oh my gosh it was horrible! Close up on the chick's face and her eyes are very noticeably blue. Cut away to Wolverine looking good as a shirtless lumberjack, then zoom in on the wife's eyes and - what! - they're brown now? And then when he was walking around the log-filled de-forested area,each time they change the camera angle, his eyes change color completely. From hazel-green, to blue to dark brown. THREE TIMES! In less than 3 minutes! It was ridiculous! You'd think that'd be easy/obvious to edit out...

Then, this one's major. His skeleton is now indestructible Adamantium, right? A bunch of smart government guys gave it to him. Because, naturally, a man that has pent up rage and bone claws is the perfect test subject for the indestructible skeleton. He's perfect, right? Right.
Well, after he inevitably escapes, ragefully, they go after him with 3 or four bazooka loaded helicopters and send their best sharp shooter to the front lines - with a hand gun.
It's not like we just made the Logan guy indestructible or anything, right? Of course not. We aren't idiots. Shoot more soft lead bullets and explosions at him, boys!

After their prized sharpshooter dies when - GASP - lead doesn't go through the indestructible man, the geniuses decide to take out Adamantium Bullets - Aka:the gun/bullets that might actually work. And they do this after their expert sharpshooter dies. I reiterate: AFTER their expert sharp shooter dies. That was a very intelligent seires of events, wasn't it?

Later, Wolverine decides to free some kidnapped mutants and take down the uber-mutant-robot-man-number-11 (or something I don't remember the specifics.)
So... lots of epic mutants with awesome, powerful abilities: ice, fire, super speed, diamond hard skin - the list goes on - owe Logan a favor, since he, you know, let them out of their cages and all. With all these guys on his side taking down the ultra mutant will be easy, right? Nope.
We must get all these enormously powerful and useful mutants to safety!
But who will help Logan?
Oh! I know! The most offensively useless mutant that has an emotionally complex and strained relationship with our rugged protagonist! His traitor ex-wife!
...
And she's bleeding to death from a bullet wound!
She's perfect! Quick! get the useful guys out of here!

So... much... idiocy... GAH!

Oh, wait there's more. When the head shooting lasers is chopped off the ultra-mutant's neck, naturally it flies into the center of the giant-silo-like-building atop which the fight took place (even though the radius from the center is more than certainly at least a few hundred feet) and causes the building to crumble by laser-cutting it into pieces that are a perfect spiral all the way down to the bottom as it falls. It looks silly it's so neat and tidy a spiral. That's a mean spin he put on that head, eh?

Oh no! The indestructible man is faaaaalling! I think he's in mortal danger! ... Oooof! Hey whaddayah know... he's ok. (:

BUT WAIT! A giant slab of rock from the silo is hurtling towards him!! Aaaaaaah!!

Bam! *pebbles skitter everywhere*

Gee... it sure was nice of Gambit to jump in and crush the slab of wall before it hits Wolverine. It could have crushed him! Oh, wait. Except for the part where his skeleton is stronger than any other material and cannot be crushed. You really saved his neck there buddy. *rolls eyes*

THE END

*bows*
And now I feel silly for typing all that inane stuff out. But that's what happened, I swear.



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01 Jul 2009, 1:29 am

That's always been something that tickles me; that most movie characters are fugitives from the Law of Averages...;) every million-to-one shot pays off...;)



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01 Jul 2009, 7:40 am

Jaejoongfangirl wrote:
You want inconsistencies? Watch Wolverine.
Actually, don't... 'cause it was terrible.

*SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRE MOVIE AHEAD* *YOU'VE BEEN WARNED*


I'll presume you don't follow the comic series enough to see why they messed up so badly.

1. Eye color - This is what happens when the makeup crew get sloppy. That scene where the eye color changes three times was probably shot over several days. Digitally, it could have been fixed in post-production, but it's amazing how lazy film QA people have become. I saw a replay of a Babylon 5 episode where a fight scene breaks out and in one shot, you see a "stage hand" sitting on a box in the background.

2. Wolverine's mutant ability is uncharted regenerative powers. The infusion of adamantium will more than likely kill the patient. That's why he was selected. In the comic, when the metal was removed from him, his healing ability actually improved...the theory being that having metal fused to his bones was always placing a drain on his regenerative powers.

3. The adamantium does not make Wolverine indestructible. In the comics, he can die in the following ways. Injuries too severe for him to regenerate from (incineration, explosion and in theory, head trauma that destroys his brain tissue); decapitation of the head from the body; suffocation; injuries large enough that he lacks the raw material needed to regenerate from his wounds. His bones would survive, but hurt Wolverine enough and he could remain wounded or even die.

4. Adamantium bullets (at best) could damage the adamantium bones, but they would inflict no greater harm. This would be a wise choice for a head shot (on the hope that scrambling his brain pan would kill him). Otherwise, nobody said bad guys were smart.

5. Traitorous ex-wife....It's a summer blockbuster. Sensible plot lines are secondary concerns to box office returns.

6. Crushed by a building. Again, the skeleton is impervious to harm, but....heavy weight could inflict damage he can't recover from. Pressure could prevent breathing or just cut off air. Wolverine isn't indestructible so nobody is certain what is needed to kill him. Odds are the guy that saved him wasn't going to chance it.