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09 Oct 2011, 1:10 pm

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I watched this episode and I'm not insulted at all. The basic idea of the episode is common autism misconception. Stan was diagnosed because of stupid gossip, that's all. About claiming that AS is a fake condition... Well, come on, don't you know South Park at all? In one episode, there was Jesus and Santa fighting against terrorists in Iraq, Jesus was killed and saved Santa (therefore he saved... Christmas). In other episode, minorities changed the water pools into piss pools, and there was a piss-flood, but I don't remember why. Is that crazy enough?

I liked the idea of a secret machine which combines all flavors from all fast-foods into one gas :D, especially the "scientific" presentation about it. However, I'm disappointed, because I've expected more info about AS. In fact, there was almost nothing mentioned about it. Weirdos from Asperger's Research were not aspergian at all. IMO everyone labeled with this disorder (in this episode) was more likely depressed (the most normal ones) or schizophrenic (the weirdest ones).

But, as someone mentioned above, this is not a documentary show, so I think it is somewhat good episode.


Well yeah, of course its not a documentary show, its a comedy. But doing a parody of something requires a certain amount of knowledge about what you are trying to make fun of. South Park has done a much better job with religious humor because they dive into the background and beliefs of the religion and impose them literally in the real world. With this episode though, they just make fun of the name (something we ourselves have done a million times) and that's all we got. Its not that I'm insulted, I was just hoping for a parody with a little more depth to what it was. I had been waiting for them to touch on the disability and now I feel kinda cheated.



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09 Oct 2011, 2:34 pm

countzarroff wrote:
Well yeah, of course its not a documentary show, its a comedy. But doing a parody of something requires a certain amount of knowledge about what you are trying to make fun of. South Park has done a much better job with religious humor because they dive into the background and beliefs of the religion and impose them literally in the real world. With this episode though, they just make fun of the name (something we ourselves have done a million times) and that's all we got. Its not that I'm insulted, I was just hoping for a parody with a little more depth to what it was. I had been waiting for them to touch on the disability and now I feel kinda cheated.


I agree it could be better with real Aspie traits, like I mentioned before.



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09 Oct 2011, 2:44 pm

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I agree it could be better with real Aspie traits, like I mentioned before.


blowing ass bubbles is something all people with ASD do, we don't know what socially acceptable temember thats the stigma



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09 Oct 2011, 2:56 pm

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blowing ass bubbles is something all people with ASD do, we don't know what socially acceptable temember thats the stigma


And what about pissing on people's faces? :)



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09 Oct 2011, 3:11 pm

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blowing ass bubbles is something all people with ASD do, we don't know what socially acceptable temember thats the stigma


And what about pissing on people's faces? :)


THEY don't make correct signs, THEY make signs where you have to distinguish a girl from a boy by a little silhouette skirt, I walk into a girls wc so often when I'm wearing a long sweater I just stop going to the mensroom period and just piss against the wall or yeah.. on someone's face..



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10 Oct 2011, 9:45 pm

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South Park is no longer as clear and articulate as it used to be but I think I finally figured this one out. Even when random sh** was happening that you didn't understand it was all tied together in a context with a closing speech by the end of an episode. It's not so clear cut anymore,
this season has really sucked
(Maybe an ode to the end of South Park drawing near?)


what random sh**? why random? I was just wondering how they thought of the plot, thought it was brilliant. YOU didn't understand it and think it's not so clear cut, I think that you might not have understood the previous ones you thought you understood. The end of Southpark drawing near is not an option, or if it is, it has been since the very first episode because they originally said it was just gonna be one season and every time they were asked they said they weren't gonna be doing it in 5 years, so it's been proven they really love to make it, and in my view are going to continue with it, (though I was a little scared after the previous depressing one too.
I think it's the best season yet, or at least one of the best (mostly because it's storylines go together geniously and you have to ask a couple of questions before you get what they're really saying, if they say antyhing at all and don't just want to make you guess) and you can see that they really love making new episodes,


"What random s***? Why Random?"
A talking piece of poo. A litttle boy who wants to eradicate the jews. A chicken rapist. A school teacher with a dead foetus on her face. You know, that kind of random. If you seriously sit there nodding your head at every minute of a South Park episode even in the first few minutes thinking 'Oh yeah, I know what's going on here!' then I take my hat off to you sir. But somehow I highly doubt that. It usually takes half an episode for me before the analogy's become a little clearer depending on the subject matter but maybe you're some kind of South Park genius. They've had a formulaic approach for years. Usually Stan or Kyle start explaining what they've learned to a touching piano solo.
I think the main problem was an expectation that the episode would be about AS. It wasn't. It was about transition and acceptance and Stan's misdiagnosis was a very rough side plot, a means to an end.



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13 Oct 2011, 1:47 am

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I have recently finished the "Ass Burgers" episode of South Park. It did include some boring jokes about burgers being spewed from our rears, but claimed Aspergers is a facade. It portrayed those who were affected by it as low-functioning, spastic, ret*ds! It proceeded to call Aspergers a disease, and illness; almost as if it were a hardship the likes of pancreatic cancer! I am very disappointed with this episode. Regardless of whether or not Aspergers is to be joked about, this is a grotesque portrayal of aspies.


So what exactly have you accomplished that would entitle you to disappointment?



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13 Oct 2011, 2:11 am

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Well it is southpark...and southpark will be southpark.


What does this mean?!
It is what it is.



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13 Oct 2011, 2:18 am

I want to see this episode but I went to the official site southparkstudios.com and got the message:

"Due to pre-existing Contractual Obligations, we cannot stream this episode until
11.05.2011"

Where did everyone find this episode? Is there some streaming source I'm not aware of. How did everyone see this episode before it was released?



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13 Oct 2011, 5:04 am

there are indeed ways to bypass constraints on time or required location to stream south park (the official site should not be available in my country, for example); and it is of course always possible that people watchied it on release, it was last week in america after all.
the stream delay is normal, they always block it untill all countries had the show aired, which takes some 2 weeks usually



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13 Oct 2011, 5:40 am

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I have recently finished the "Ass Burgers" episode of South Park. It did include some boring jokes about burgers being spewed from our rears, but claimed Aspergers is a facade. It portrayed those who were affected by it as low-functioning, spastic, ret*ds! It proceeded to call Aspergers a disease, and illness; almost as if it were a hardship the likes of pancreatic cancer! I am very disappointed with this episode. Regardless of whether or not Aspergers is to be joked about, this is a grotesque portrayal of aspies.



Awwww diddums.

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13 Oct 2011, 6:14 am

izzeme wrote:
there are indeed ways to bypass constraints on time or required location to stream south park (the official site should not be available in my country, for example); and it is of course always possible that people watchied it on release, it was last week in america after all.
the stream delay is normal, they always block it untill all countries had the show aired, which takes some 2 weeks usually


I didn't know that, but that makes sense. I can wait.



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19 Oct 2011, 5:16 pm

jackbus01 wrote:
I want to see this episode but I went to the official site southparkstudios.com and got the message:

"Due to pre-existing Contractual Obligations, we cannot stream this episode until
11.05.2011"

Where did everyone find this episode? Is there some streaming source I'm not aware of. How did everyone see this episode before it was released?
I saw it when it aired on TV. Have times changed so much with online streaming that we've already forgotten that you can watch TV shows on an actual television set?



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24 Oct 2011, 9:39 am

i realy liked how cynical asholes can be turned into semi normal people for a while by getting them drunk.



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24 Oct 2011, 12:36 pm

jackbus01 wrote:
I want to see this episode but I went to the official site southparkstudios.com and got the message:

"Due to pre-existing Contractual Obligations, we cannot stream this episode until
11.05.2011"

Where did everyone find this episode? Is there some streaming source I'm not aware of. How did everyone see this episode before it was released?


you can watch South Park at http://xepisodes.com/ (and Family Guy, American Dad, The Simpsons..)



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24 Oct 2011, 1:54 pm

Apparently aspies are the only ones who see the world for what it really is - nothing but poo.

That's mostly true, actually. :wink:


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