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10 Apr 2011, 8:12 pm

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Faces of Death


Try Traces of Death and come back to me. I couldn't watch more than a minute or so of that. Sick.



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11 Apr 2011, 8:19 am

I'll take your word rather than watch it.



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11 Apr 2011, 2:06 pm

Replying to Xenon13, I believe I saw the original version of Wizard of Gore. The reason I found it offensive was the madman running his hands through the intestines of the girls he mutilated. It was hideously realistic. Not to mention stomach turning. Mercifully I have never seen anything like it, with the exception of Warhol's Frankenstein in 3D which featured a character being speared from the back and a piece of his liver pop out the front on the tip of the spear. He then delivers a speech while twitching with the spear poking out and the bit of liver quivering in 3D. I almost passed out as the lights came up. The blood and guts almost put me into shock.

Movies can be stupid, or mindless, but it takes a lot to be truly offensive ...


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11 Apr 2011, 10:02 pm

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I'll take your word rather than watch it.


The video Traces of Death was banned by the BBFC (UK film/video/game censorship board). Their justification as was as follows:

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Traces of Death comprises a compilation of uncontextualised clips showing real killings, suicides, medical operations, fatal accidents, autopsies and other distressing images. The work presents no journalistic, educational or other justifying context for the images shown. Rather, the work presents a barrage of sensationalist clips, for what appears to be the underlying purpose of providing prurient entertainment. That this is the essential purpose of the work is reinforced by the addition of a sparse but sensationalist voice-over, which deliberately makes light of human death, pain and suffering. Some of the most graphic clips are needlessly repeated in slow motion, further underlining the prurient and exploitative nature of the work.

The Board carefully considered the work in the light of our Guidelines and the tests set down by the Video Recordings Act. A key consideration is the question of any harm that might be caused to potential viewers or, through their behaviour, to society because of the manner in which the work deals with violence and “horrific behaviour or incidents”. The Board has concluded that the video is potentially harmful because of the influence it may have on the attitudes and behaviour of at least some intended or potential viewers. By presenting actual human death, mutilation and suffering as entertainment, the work has the potential to desensitise viewers, and perhaps even to incite some to harm others. The work invites the viewer to take sadistic pleasure in death, injury, mutilation and pain and encourages callousness towards victims. Given the flippant and sensationalist nature of the occasional voice over, the work is perhaps especially likely to appeal to the juvenile humour of young and impressionable persons (whatever its classification). The Board considers that the work may have a significant brutalising effect on their attitude to human life and pain.

Given the potential for the work to deaden the sensitivity of viewers to pain and suffering and to impair the moral development of younger viewers in particular, the Board also considers that the work raises serious concerns about possible breach of the Obscene Publications Act. This Act makes it an offence to distribute any work that, taken as a whole, has a tendency to deprave and corrupt (i.e. make morally bad) a significant proportion of those likely to see it.

A further consideration for the Board is that of public acceptability. (This is the ground on which, for instance, the Board has regard to issues of bad language.) In this case the combination of the shocking and distressing images in the work, the lack of any justifying context, the editorial treatment, and the and the possible appeal to a young audience, all appear to the Board to raise serious concerns about the acceptability of the work to public opinion. Taken together with the harm issues, and potential breach of the law, these concerns about acceptability strengthen the basis for refusal of classification.

The Board considered whether cutting the work would be a viable alternative to refusing a classification certificate. However, the essential difficultly with Traces of Death lies not so much with any particular images (most of which would have been acceptable in a different, more serious, context) but with the manner in which the images are presented, and with the underlying, exploitative purpose of the work. Cuts would therefore be unlikely to modify the tone and overall effect of the work acceptably.



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12 Apr 2011, 4:21 pm

Modern Vampires is a movie that disgusts me, which is weird coming from me because I normally like dark comedies (I'm a big fan of Addams Family Values and Bride of Chucky).

But what is so funny about a scene where a white female vampire invites a bunch of black gangsters-turned-vampire hunters to rape her while she's turned into an ugly deformed monster, and the guys actually go through with it and enjoyit? Or how about seeing the pasty white butt of a naked attorney being dragged to a table so he can become dinner for Count Dracula and his brides, and shouting the pathetic threat of "I'll sue every last one of you!" trying to make the scene humoress?

This movie is just wrong on so many levels. :x



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12 Apr 2011, 8:11 pm

Team America is really offensive, but it's still really hilarious. Although I liked Borat, I just found Bruno disgusting, and offensive (with the exception of the part where he's on Jerry Springer or w/e).



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12 Apr 2011, 9:03 pm

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13 Apr 2011, 4:02 pm

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Replying to Xenon13, I believe I saw the original version of Wizard of Gore. The reason I found it offensive was the madman running his hands through the intestines of the girls he mutilated. It was hideously realistic. Not to mention stomach turning. Mercifully I have never seen anything like it, with the exception of Warhol's Frankenstein in 3D which featured a character being speared from the back and a piece of his liver pop out the front on the tip of the spear. He then delivers a speech while twitching with the spear poking out and the bit of liver quivering in 3D. I almost passed out as the lights came up. The blood and guts almost put me into shock.

Movies can be stupid, or mindless, but it takes a lot to be truly offensive ...



Peter Jackson, the director of the Lord of the Rings movies, made a film full of gore of that type... it's called Dead Alive, that's one of the titles. Then there's the Fulci pictures of out Italy... Zombie has that infamous eyeball scene. Lewis is the one who decided that gore could sell a picture. For him it was either that or go into black and white gothic sex and violence pictures like the rest of the exploitation brigade. He never adequately answered the question why it was that only he went into gore (he made it clear it was his idea and not his partner Friedman's and Friedman rushed into the black and white sex and violent gothic genre as soon as he broke up with Lewis).



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13 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

I've never been offended by a movie, but I have been shocked on a few occassions.

A Clockwork Orange - How often do you see rape to that degree in a movie?
Letters from Iwo Jima - The Bonzai scene. For some reason it got to me. Maybe cause it actually happened...
Schindlers List - One of the hardest movies to watch, but also one of the best.

Like I said, a few.


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13 Apr 2011, 9:14 pm

I'm a Christian and strong in my faith.I know not everyone believes what I believe what I do and I respect that. So I'd hope other people would have the same respect for me in that regard. I'm putting that because I've talked about my faith before and people have told me how stupid I am for believing what I believe. I'd hope I wouldn't run into that here but just wanted to make that clear first and foremost. That being said, i saw how some thought The Passion was the most offensive. I liked it from a Christian point of view. It was Biblical. And it was all about someone being beat and tortured to death. At the end it shows his resurrection. It shows what Christianity is about and if your not a Christian, it is going to be hard to see that. To some it's just some poor guy being beaten for two hours. To Christians though it's more. Now the most offensive movie I've seen kind of goes along with this. The Last Temptation of Christ. While I thought it was a good movie, I was offended how they portrayed Jesus. How he heard God talking to him but all he wanted was for him to shut up. How he asked Judas to betray him. How an "angel" told him he wasn't the Christ and took him off the cross and he went off and married Mary Magdalen. After becoming pregnant with his child she dies so he went and married both of Lazarus's sisters and had kids by them. Then at the end the "angel" was reveled to be Satan in disguise. As a Christian this whole thing offended me.



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13 Apr 2011, 9:27 pm

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So I'd hope other people would have the same respect for me in that regard. I'm putting that because I've talked about my faith before and people have told me how stupid I am for believing what I believe.


People won't (and often shouldn't, in the case of some of the more wicked and bizarre beliefs) respect your religion. They should treat you with respect (unless you do something in particular that makes people lose that respect) and they must allow you to follow your religious practices. Expect to be critiqued though if you start discussing your religious beliefs on a public forum.

It's just the way it is, mate. Sorry.

In other news: the BBFC have (apparently) passed Cannibal Holocaust with a mere 14 seconds of cuts! Considering its chequered history in the UK (even the original video nasty release wasn't uncut by any means) and the fact that the last time they saw the film they cut 5¾ minutes from it (most of that being real animal cruelty with some of it arguably being quite long and drawn out) I'm amazed by this decision. I've seen the uncut version of Cannibal Holocaust and really don't desire to sit through it again, but hats off to the BBFC.



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13 Apr 2011, 11:56 pm

Tequila wrote:

People won't (and often shouldn't, in the case of some of the more wicked and bizarre beliefs) respect your religion. They should treat you with respect (unless you do something in particular that makes people lose that respect) and they must allow you to follow your religious practices. Expect to be critiqued though if you start discussing your religious beliefs on a public forum.

It's just the way it is, mate. Sorry.



Yeah I know. It just kills me that people who believe things that are different from what I believe and they want me to respect their beliefs but they want to be free to insult and ridicule mine. I try to respect everyone and I just want the same. I know some so called Christians go a little far and pass judgment on people on people who believe differently. But I'm not like that. Jesus wasn't even like that. Sorry everyone. didn't mean to get theological on here. Just kind of went that way.



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16 Apr 2011, 1:10 am

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The Human Centipede.


I win.


Seriously.


8O

Been meaning to watch 120 Days of Sodom.


I love both of those movies. But believe me... The Human Centipede is a picnic compared to Salò. The Human Centipede, I can watch over and over again. But Salò... no more than once every couple years, haha.



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16 Apr 2011, 10:49 pm

Freddy Got Fingered



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17 Apr 2011, 1:35 am

When began this current era of preaching uber tolerance and "respect" for scientifically laughable and ethically abominable beliefs?


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20 Apr 2011, 9:00 pm

The movie kids is pretty messed up