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28 Jan 2006, 9:56 pm

anyone else see this movie? i thought it was pretty good. then again i like almost every movie so im a terrible critic.



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28 Jan 2006, 11:42 pm

Not seen it yet, might when out on dvd. Heard interview about it w/Felicity Huffman, sounds like it is a fine film.
I've inherent sympathy w/underdogs, those who don't fit our definitions but aren't harming anyone, yet are ostracized & scape-goatted. Being uncomfortable w/another person's lifestyle or identity means just that. One person's choices are right for them but may be wrong for someone else. Feel bad for someone having to get surgery because body & mind don't seem to be compatible/of same gender-seems painful both mentally & physically. Don't blame person for that problem, though-wish it were easier for an individual to remedy.


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29 Jan 2006, 4:42 am

Belfast wrote:
One person's choices are right for them but may be wrong for someone else. Feel bad for someone having to get surgery because body & mind don't seem to be compatible/of same gender-seems painful both mentally & physically. Don't blame person for that problem, though-wish it were easier for an individual to remedy.
disagree, is not a choice, less so for people whose parents made the decision for them and made the wrong choice. hum, think i'll go start a topic. sounds like might be interesting movie. dont go to movies. will wait for dvd.


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29 Jan 2006, 4:58 am

why wait for the DVD, thats just soooo typical. im gona see it coz its about a minority group, and we are a minority too, so we better support eachother



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30 Jan 2006, 12:26 am

berta wrote:
why wait for the DVD, thats just soooo typical.

There is no shame in being unable to tolerate being in a movie theater. I need to be at home, in my own environment, in order to be calm enough to focus on enjoying an activity.
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im gona see it coz its about a minority group, and we are a minority too, so we better support eachother

Is above statement sarcastic or serious ? I can't figure out which.


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30 Jan 2006, 12:58 am

Neuroman wrote:
Belfast wrote:
One person's choices are right for them but may be wrong for someone else. Feel bad for someone having to get surgery because body & mind don't seem to be compatible/of same gender-seems painful both mentally & physically. Don't blame person for that problem, though-wish it were easier for an individual to remedy.
disagree, is not a choice, less so for people whose parents made the decision for them and made the wrong choice.

Oh no, I've obviously mis-stated my position, despite how cautiously I try to word things.
Choice is what to do about situation, such as have surgery as an adult. Not implying that the mis-match between an individual's body & mind is a choice !
Have learned plenty about cases of children wrongly gender re-assigned by the late Dr. John Money, among others. One such story was recently a topic on WP, "As Nature Made Him", story of David Reimer (sp?). I'd heard & seen shows where he talked about how he'd been made a female when a kid (forget if he was hermaphrodite or had incomplete genitalia or was injured) and he identified as male. Was forced to live as a girl by family (per advice of doctor) & wasn't able to be the boy he felt himself to be.
Upset me to find out he recently killed himself. Great injustice was done to him & others who had this done to them under those circumstances.


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