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14 Jun 2009, 8:27 pm

Seriously, I'd really like to know this, esp. for those who are tired of the stereotypes of Aspies perpetuated most infamously by "Rain Man" and "Mozart and the Whale". Both of these films were pretty inaccurate portrayals of Aspies to me. And, even though I liked "Napoleon Dynamite" I thought that was a slightly inaccurate portrayal as well since the lead character had no sense of humor (the humor in the movie itself seemed accidental to me).

Anyway I'll start you off with what I think would be a GOOD movie about us AS folks. First of all, sorry if I'm disappointing a couple of you with this idea, but it WOULD involve two Aspies in love. But they wouldn't have all the stereotypical characteristics. They would both be into the arts and not technical aspects like math, science, etc. They'd be innocent but not so much so that they'd be a "pity case" for the viewers watching. Instead, the characters would be more real, they'd have multiple facets to their emotions, and they'd be more...well...human, so that "normal" people in the audience could relate to the characters as well. They'd talk like real people and not like robots or cartoons talk. And, of course, they'd be FUNNY! (well, sometimes)

As for the plot...well...not sure about that one yet, but I kinda wanna make it like an Aspie version of "The Perks of Being A Wallflower", "Catcher In the Rye", or like some book/movie in that vein that deals with teen/twentysomething angst in a bittersweet manner.

Well, that's my idea. Now I wanna hear YOURS! BTW, feel free to comment on my idea if you want.



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14 Jun 2009, 9:14 pm

I think any movie, 2-3 hours long would not work, it either wouldnt get the point across or you'd risk doing what something Mozart and the Whale did and stuff too much into it making things seem worse than they are. (still think it was a good movie though)

This kinda made me think about a short series, an hour long drama tv show, something like that. But I just cant help but come to the conclusion it would be boring as hell.

But a good comedy could work. Thinking along the lines of house (his aspie-traits not considered). Comedy based in a serious atmosphere, not straight comedy/goofball stuff.


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14 Jun 2009, 9:21 pm

GriffinGuitar12 wrote:

Anyway I'll start you off with what I think would be a GOOD movie about us AS folks. First of all, sorry if I'm disappointing a couple of you with this idea, but it WOULD involve two Aspies in love. But they wouldn't have all the stereotypical characteristics. They would both be into the arts and not technical aspects like math, science, etc. They'd be innocent but not so much so that they'd be a "pity case" for the viewers watching. Instead, the characters would be more real, they'd have multiple facets to their emotions, and they'd be more...well...human, so that "normal" people in the audience could relate to the characters as well. They'd talk like real people and not like robots or cartoons talk. And, of course, they'd be FUNNY! (well, sometimes)



That sounds like a description of my husband and I. We're both Aspies and we both blend in very well to society. We met online 11 years ago through a common interest site (an online campaign to save our favorite tv show). Before he had ever chatted with me, DH was a fan of my fanfic and recognized my UserID. We both enjoy science, but we're much more creatively-attuned.

Unlike what most books claim, Aspies CAN be very happy in their marriages. We often are amazed that marriage receives such a terrible reputation because we feel like we're living our "Happily Ever After" that so many cynics claim doesn't exist, especially in the Asperger's world. I think the fact that we're both Aspies is what makes us fit so perfectly together.

We have an offbeat sense of humor (I'm using "we" so much I feel like I'm the Chinese Emperor...) and people always comment about it. We're so good at fooling people, they often don't even believe us if we tell them we're on the spectrum. We can fake it well, but once we're home, we're usually mentally exhausted from the simple act of interacting with people.

I doubt our lives would make for an interesting story, but the premise you're describing can absolutely exist.



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14 Jun 2009, 9:38 pm

There was a movie I saw a long time ago, before I had ever heard of Asperger's that I think maybe shows a pretty accurate portrayal. It's called A Dangerous Woman and stars Debra Winger and Gabriel Byrne. It's based on a book by Mary McGarry Morris. The character that Debra Winger plays creates a disastrous chain of events because of her inability to tell a social lie and her rigid sense of right and wrong. It's not a completely kind portrayal but it's kinder than the book. I don't think the author specifically intended to portray someone with ASD. You can Google it and see a trailer.



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14 Jun 2009, 9:54 pm

willa wrote:

But a good comedy could work. Thinking along the lines of house (his aspie-traits not considered). Comedy based in a serious atmosphere, not straight comedy/goofball stuff.



I agree...a good comedy could work.



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14 Jun 2009, 10:06 pm

there's a thread on a movie called Adam



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14 Jun 2009, 11:28 pm

Aimless wrote:
there's a thread on a movie called Adam


Yes I'm aware of this movie and it's exactly the kind of movie I was going AGAINST in this thread. No offense but you might want to read what I said a little more carefully next time :roll:



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14 Jun 2009, 11:31 pm

HJaneHarrington wrote:

That sounds like a description of my husband and I. We're both Aspies and we both blend in very well to society. We met online 11 years ago through a common interest site (an online campaign to save our favorite tv show). Before he had ever chatted with me, DH was a fan of my fanfic and recognized my UserID. We both enjoy science, but we're much more creatively-attuned.

Unlike what most books claim, Aspies CAN be very happy in their marriages. We often are amazed that marriage receives such a terrible reputation because we feel like we're living our "Happily Ever After" that so many cynics claim doesn't exist, especially in the Asperger's world. I think the fact that we're both Aspies is what makes us fit so perfectly together.

We have an offbeat sense of humor (I'm using "we" so much I feel like I'm the Chinese Emperor...) and people always comment about it. We're so good at fooling people, they often don't even believe us if we tell them we're on the spectrum. We can fake it well, but once we're home, we're usually mentally exhausted from the simple act of interacting with people.

I doubt our lives would make for an interesting story, but the premise you're describing can absolutely exist.


Well maybe not EVERYTHING in your lives, but maybe an event(s) that was/were really important to you and your husband (albeit an event(s) that would reveal your "Aspie-ness") would probably work really well for an "Aspie movie". Heck I'd go see it! :D



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15 Jun 2009, 2:41 am

The good thing about griffin's idea is that it would try to show us in a non stereotypical light.

I had an idea for an aspie black comedy that shows bullying, but I never got around to writing it. The basic premise is like this:

The protagonist is a mild mannered college student with AS. He has no friends and is constantly bullied. He always tries to be nice, but he is quiet, weird, and the other students see him as a target. In one scene he goes to try to talk to a hot girl. She pretends to like him, but only so she and her friends can play a horrific prank on him. After this he is heartbroken and very sad after being used like that. However, he decides to do nothing in retaliation and he just tries to live on like nothing happened.

However, the girl who played the prank on him gets kidnapped. When the police come to campus to question the students, the students who were responsible for kidnapping her were questioned first, they are also the students who are the worst bullies to the protagonist. and they tell the police that the protagonist is creepy and was just pranked by this girl so he was a likely suspect. The police ask other students who confirm that they found the protagonist to be a creepy loser and loner. The police arrest the protagonist and send him to the station for interrogation. The interrogator is homophobic and aggressive and yells at the protagonist about how he is a loser and not a real man and a pathetic nobody. The interrogator assaults the protagonist who still maintains his innocence. The interrogator brings in the parents of the girl who yell at the protagonist and insult him demanding that he tell them where he's hiding their daughter.

No matter what the protagonist says or does they don't believe him, and by this time, mild mannered in the extreme as he was, he was getting angry. So he tells them that he kidnapped the girl and she will suffocate within a few hours and he would tell them where she was only if they met all of his demands for the next hour. They continue to try to bully a confession out of him but he says nothing except to remind them that the time is ticking away. The protagonist commands that the interrogator bring in several of his colleagues.

When his colleagues are brought in the protagonist starts commanding that everyone in the room all perform sex acts with each other on his command while the girl's mother strips down and gives him a lap dance. The homophobic interrogator and the father of the girl are furious and attack him to be reminded that if they kill him the girl dies. They eventually acquiesce to the protagonist who spends the next 30 minutes of the movie putting everyone else in that room through every possible degrading humiliation his newly awakened sadistic side can think of. That is when the station gets a call from the girl who was kidnapped. She had escaped, and it just so happened that it was the interrogator's son who was one of the culprits. The movies ends with the interrogator bashing his own head on the table repeatedly, the girl crying while her parents fight with each other and decide that they can no longer be married, various police officers burying their face in their hands in shame, while the protagonist grins widely while watching the scene a narrator says "if only certain residents of this quiet college town had treated the protagonist a little bit better."


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15 Jun 2009, 4:10 am

sorry griffinguitar12 I'm ADD and probably Hyperlexic ( I couldn't find an emoticon with it's tongue sticking out so "nyeh") :roll:



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15 Jun 2009, 11:08 am

Thirty to sixty minutes long.

Have there be thought instead of speech from the aspie to highlight social awkwardness. Have speech muted due to the focus upon the thoughts.

Show either a school day with thoughts becoming increasingly panicked and anxious as the day wore on, then a potential melt-down and then going home.

Show the world what it's like to be trapped as we are.


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15 Jun 2009, 12:54 pm

Goatonfire - your story seems interesting, although could stigmatize Aspies to an extent.

My idea is a short series (13 episodes) where the protagonist is a 20-25 year old male Aspie who has started living independently , who has some traits like good at arithmetic and computers and a 130-140 IQ, however does not like to associate himself with more stereotypical Aspies since he thinks that they tend to act like that to "victimise" themselves for pity and guilt from the NT majority.

The female lead would be a NT of roughly the same age would lives in the same apartment block who starts to want to bond with the male protagonist in order to connect with him, as she felt bad for picking on people with Aspergers at school because of her emotional abusive parents (especially her mother)

As time went on, the two learn from each other about various aspects such as friendship, connections, intimacy.



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15 Jun 2009, 1:11 pm

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sorry griffinguitar12 I'm ADD and probably Hyperlexic ( I couldn't find an emoticon with it's tongue sticking out so "nyeh") :roll:



apology accepted



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15 Jun 2009, 1:39 pm

I wrote a novel about a thirteen-year-old Aspie who is a horror fan and grosses everybody out with his macabre doomsday fantasies. After the accidental death of the most NT guy he knew - whom he secretly admired - throws him for a loop, he ends up in a boarding school where the other students' aberrant behaviour feeds his homicidal madness until the inevitable disaster occurs.

...I like morbid stories... :twisted:


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16 Jun 2009, 2:02 am

LAEMapsie wrote:
Goatonfire - your story seems interesting, although could stigmatize Aspies to an extent.


How so? To me the story is sympathetic to the aspie, has a misanthropic attitude in general, and the moral of the story is that alienating someone in the extreme may come back to bite you hard.

The key thing about that story that I'd like to see is the depiction of an aspie who goes through an entire movie without finding friends or a significant other to show how hard it can be for some.


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17 Jun 2009, 3:58 pm

GoatOnFire wrote:
LAEMapsie wrote:
Goatonfire - your story seems interesting, although could stigmatize Aspies to an extent.


How so? To me the story is sympathetic to the aspie, has a misanthropic attitude in general, and the moral of the story is that alienating someone in the extreme may come back to bite you hard.

The key thing about that story that I'd like to see is the depiction of an aspie who goes through an entire movie without finding friends or a significant other to show how hard it can be for some.


That I get, what I was on about is how the general intolerant public may start to view Aspies as acting well-mannered but secretly being sadistic.