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27 Jan 2010, 3:28 pm

If anyone of you have the new Sherlock Holmes Movie, the Guy Ritchie one, would you say that he has Asperger? Especially when he trys to build the silencer or when Watson says wear a jackett or he deduces about Watsons Fiance....



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30 Jan 2010, 5:12 pm

I'm not sure. I could see the movie. Can you tell me whereabouts these scenes are in the movies? Like 15 mins, 30 minutes, etc??



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31 Jan 2010, 6:40 am

They totally ruined the movie... Jackie Chan would have been a better actor for that role...
I liked the BBC television series "Murder Rooms" a lot more than this new movie...



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31 Jan 2010, 4:00 pm

Sherlock Holmes was NOT an aspie, he was however a manic depressive and a heroin addict. Ignore the movies and read the original Sir Arthur Conan Doyle stories.

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23 Feb 2010, 10:40 pm

Wedge is correct that "Murder Rooms" was a very good series.

If you are meaning the latest Holmes movie that I think you mean (Robert Downey Jr etc?? ) then I quite enjoyed that one.

Both Holmes and Watson were solid, well-drawn characters in this movie. Still, they did not seem very much like Holmes and Watson.

I have heard talk that there might be a sequel with Moriarty in a prominent role.


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24 Feb 2010, 2:35 am

When Holmes isn't solving an impossible puzzle, he is self destructing. He's only an addict when there's nothing to occupy his mind. It's exactly why there'll be Holmes movies for years to come. Of all the detectives ever written, he has the deepest character development and which is fully integrated into any plot. I had a conversation with Stephen Cleary about this and I think we agreed, definite asperger traits.



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01 Mar 2010, 9:14 am

ping-machine wrote:
Wedge is correct that "Murder Rooms" was a very good series.

If you are meaning the latest Holmes movie that I think you mean (Robert Downey Jr etc?? ) then I quite enjoyed that one.

Both Holmes and Watson were solid, well-drawn characters in this movie. Still, they did not seem very much like Holmes and Watson.

I have heard talk that there might be a sequel with Moriarty in a prominent role.



I thought that in "Murder Rooms" the characters behaved more like you would expect someone to behave in the Victorian period. In the new movie (with Robert Downey Jr.) there is too much action and less mistery and suspense. I know that Robert Downey Jr. is a great actor but I guess that "Murder Rooms" was more focused on the development of the subjetivity of the characters.



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01 Mar 2010, 2:10 pm

If you approach it knowing that you'll be watching a Hollywood interpretation of the famous detective, and not an accurate portrayal of the character as detailed in the novels then you won't be dissapointed.
Both Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law were excellent in their respective roles and even better together.

I loved the movie.



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01 Mar 2010, 6:38 pm

This movie comes out on DVD at the end of this month, and I can't wait to see it!

Action and heroics in Victorian England? Sign me up, please! :D I wanted to watch League of Extraordinary Gentlemen for the same reason, but I hear that movie's pretty bad so I'm not sure if I should watch it or not.



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02 Mar 2010, 8:08 am

The Sherlock Holmes movie is a good film. I don't think it's really far from the spirit of the books.


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02 Mar 2010, 11:30 am

The League isn't all that bad, it's over the top in spots, and had a lot of unrealized potential. Steampunkers roundly hate it, but then there's no pleasing everyone...;)


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03 Mar 2010, 1:45 am

I would definitely definitely definitely say he was Aspie! Especially the quick, calculated runthrough of what he's going to do right before he does it, or the scene in the restaurant where the volume goes up and it's like he's having sensory issues.

My husband kept prodding me throughout the movie and saying, 'you do that.' :lol:


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19 Mar 2010, 3:53 am

NinjaSquid wrote:
If anyone of you have the new Sherlock Holmes Movie, the Guy Ritchie one, would you say that he has Asperger? Especially when he trys to build the silencer or when Watson says wear a jackett or he deduces about Watsons Fiance....


People have been saying that Sherlock Holmes had autism for awhile now. Interesting thing about that is that Sir Author Conan Doyle based the Character on a forensic scientist he knew in real life. :wink:



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22 Mar 2010, 9:53 am

jimdotbeep wrote:
NinjaSquid wrote:
If anyone of you have the new Sherlock Holmes Movie, the Guy Ritchie one, would you say that he has Asperger? Especially when he trys to build the silencer or when Watson says wear a jackett or he deduces about Watsons Fiance....


People have been saying that Sherlock Holmes had autism for awhile now. Interesting thing about that is that Sir Author Conan Doyle based the Character on a forensic scientist he knew in real life. :wink:


That is of course what the Murder Rooms was all about -- with Bell and Doyle essentially taking the roles of Holmes and Watson.

Interesting also from the aspie perspective that Holmes is one of Data's idols in ST:TNG.


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22 Mar 2010, 10:16 am

Vanilla_Slice wrote:
Sherlock Holmes was NOT an aspie, he was however a manic depressive and a heroin addict. Ignore the movies and read the original Sir Arthur Conan Doyle stories.

Vanilla_Slice


Holmes was also an antisemite. See, for example:
http://www.bakerstreetjournal.com/image ... olberg.pdf

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22 Mar 2010, 10:19 am

jimdotbeep wrote:
Interesting thing about that is that Sir Author Conan Doyle based the Character on a forensic scientist he knew in real life. :wink:


Yes he was called Dr. Joseph Bell for whom Doyle had worked as a clerk at the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary.