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20 Jul 2011, 12:03 pm

i just saw the leaked trailer, and i gotta say, it looks really good. it looks better than sam raimi's other films. on a side note, after seeing all 3 raimi movies again, childhood biased aside, the nostalgia critic was right. at first i thought he was an idiot, but they are in fact really silly, i hope the new film makes up for that.



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20 Jul 2011, 1:00 pm

I think it looks good too. :)

I never liked the guy who played spiderman in the Raimi ones, ( Toby Maguire? ) and also disliked the ( ironically! ) heavy/clunky/"increased-gravity"/"weighty" feel of them, something which the new version looks like it might overturn, with its first-person flight/swooping/climbing, very "light", exhilarating. :)
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20 Jul 2011, 2:34 pm

Here it is so folks won't have to go searching:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNhZDL930_E[/youtube]



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20 Jul 2011, 5:10 pm

Most of us are hoping Andrew Garfield will probably
do better than Tobey Maguire
as good ol' Spidey.


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20 Jul 2011, 6:07 pm

Looks like they're going to use the "Mom and Dad have a mysterious past" that someone pulled out a decade or so back in the comic. If so, I hope they don't have someone pretending to be Richard Parker and screwing with Peter in the future. I also hope they aren't going to pull any of the iconic villains out this go-round - I think it would serve the story better if we could establish Peter and his relationships, and his new identity as Spider-Man, in this one, maybe have him take down some of the Kingpin's goons or something, then use Green Goblin or Electro in the seemingly-inevitable sequel, once Peter has begun to come to terms with what he can do.

I'm still not sure about Garfield's look, but he's got to do a better job than Maguire, right? Right?


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20 Jul 2011, 6:19 pm

I didn’t have any problems with Maguire, but geeks everywhere seem to be talking about him as if he ruined the character or something. My only real problem with Maguire’s Spider-Man is that the smart-ass comments from the comics and TV shows were nowhere to be found, but I would blame the writers and director for that before the actor.

As for villains, I support staying away from those featured in the Raimi films. I had my problems with Batman Begins, but I loved the fact that it used villains like Ra’s al Ghul and the Scarecrow, and I found it a minor disappointment that the sequel went back to the Joker and Two-Face. (Only mildly disappointed, because Ledger was so terrific and Eckhart was at least better than Tommy Lee Jones.) Using the Lizard is a good start. The sequels should use villains like the Chameleon, Electro, Kraven, Morbius, Mysterio, Rhino, Scorpion, Shocker, or Vulture. I think it's a little too soon to go back to the Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, or the Sandman.



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21 Jul 2011, 12:00 am

My wife had read somewhere that the newest Spiderman villain was going to be the Lizard. To which I thought, "Too kool!" as the Lizard was my favorite Spidey bad guy when I was a kid.
I used to have a reptile thing.

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21 Jul 2011, 1:02 am

I saw the trailer and I'm still on the fence as to whether or not I want to go see it. Right now the only thing that has piqued my interest is that the reboot will be going back to the mechanical web shooters rather than the biological web shooters in the Raimi movies.



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21 Jul 2011, 1:14 am

DarrylZero wrote:
I saw the trailer and I'm still on the fence as to whether or not I want to go see it. Right now the only thing that has piqued my interest is that the reboot will be going back to the mechanical web shooters rather than the biological web shooters in the Raimi movies.


I actually liked the notion that he could produce his own webs.

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21 Jul 2011, 1:22 am

I must be the only geek in the world who doesn’t give a crap one way or another when it comes to where Spider-Man’s webs come from. Is this really that important?



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21 Jul 2011, 1:52 am

Jory wrote:
I must be the only geek in the world who doesn’t give a crap one way or another when it comes to where Spider-Man’s webs come from. Is this really that important?


Well, I just sorta thought it made more sense for his spiderized body to produce webs naturally, otherwise, he was bound to run out in the middle of a fight, or just when swinging overhead, patrolling the city. At least, as a little kid, I was always fearful for Spiderman that he would run out of artificial webbing.

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21 Jul 2011, 1:58 am

I actually like the idea that he can run out of webbing during a fight or while swinging through the city. Makes it a little more dramatic. But organic webshooters make more sense than a teenager in high school making sophisticated mechanical devices that can shoot artificial webbing. Still, I feel like the only Spider-Man fan who really doesn't prefer one over the other.



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21 Jul 2011, 9:21 am

I don't think it's particularly important, but it also makes more sense to me for him to have organic web shooters. I just remember when the first Raimi Spider-Man came out there was a bit of a stir over the organic shooters.

Then again, I also remember the Spider-Man TV movies from the 70s (I think) where the mechanical web shooters were just unsightly and "shot" thick white rope (the special effects weren't particularly impressive).



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21 Jul 2011, 10:15 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jory wrote:
I must be the only geek in the world who doesn’t give a crap one way or another when it comes to where Spider-Man’s webs come from. Is this really that important?


Well, I just sorta thought it made more sense for his spiderized body to produce webs naturally, otherwise, he was bound to run out in the middle of a fight, or just when swinging overhead, patrolling the city. At least, as a little kid, I was always fearful for Spiderman that he would run out of artificial webbing.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

That was often a plot point - in one issue back in the Seventies, Peter realized he was going to have to retool his belt to hold spare capsules of web-fluid because he kept running out in big battles. (Also a good line during his first battle with Morlun, in 2001: "I pour the webbing on, running the shooters down to half-capacity. It's enough to stop a sixteen-ton truck." <Morlun tears through the webbing> "Too bad he's not a sixteen-ton truck.")

I don't blame the actor, the writers, or the director for the lack of quips during Spidey's movie fights - I blame reality. In the comics, Spidey could toss off one-liners or jokes at his foes' expense, because he was a comic-book character and didn't need to breathe, and because there is no relation in comics between how long it takes to say a sentence and how long it takes for a blow to land. Turning it into a movie, however, meant that either they would have to stop the fights every so often in order to get the quips in, or the punchline would have to come well after the actual punch.


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21 Jul 2011, 11:58 am

DarrylZero wrote:
I saw the trailer and I'm still on the fence as to whether or not I want to go see it. Right now the only thing that has piqued my interest is that the reboot will be going back to the mechanical web shooters rather than the biological web shooters in the Raimi movies.


Smells of Scarlet Spider to me...



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23 Jul 2011, 12:33 am

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I don't blame the actor, the writers, or the director for the lack of quips during Spidey's movie fights - I blame reality. In the comics, Spidey could toss off one-liners or jokes at his foes' expense, because he was a comic-book character and didn't need to breathe, and because there is no relation in comics between how long it takes to say a sentence and how long it takes for a blow to land. Turning it into a movie, however, meant that either they would have to stop the fights every so often in order to get the quips in, or the punchline would have to come well after the actual punch.


Like it or not, looks like we're getting it.

From a recent report on Ain't It Cool News:

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Andrew Garfield NAILS Peter Parker and Spider-Man. He's a smart-ass to thugs, thank God.


Also looks like we're getting a huge, naked Lizard with no lab coat.

Here's the link: (click me)