The Dark Knight Rises trailer!! !

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Mmr_EwwBOg

^^ Wooooooowwwwwww, thank you very much for posting this trailer, imbatshitcrazy.

Saw it yesterday when it showed before Sherlock Holmes 2.

Can't wait!

Next to The Avengers I'm so hyped about this movie even if it is a threequel.

A real trailer for this film? I've seen that many fake ones...

THANK YOU!! YOU MY HERO NOW! A real life Batman.

Impossible to understand a word the villian is saying. This movie's going to suck because of it.

I'm shocked that nobody seemed to have bothered to tell Nolan that Batman sounded awful in The Dark Knight, and now it seems that Bane will have the same problem. But I don't expect this to be the film's worst problem by any stretch. I expect Nolan to ruin it with his overbearing pretentiousness, just like the last two times.

Lol, probably. Only this time I won't be able to understand the hero or the villain, or what the hell is going on. Hopefully the side characters will be able to piece it together for me, or I'll just have to wait for subtitles.

You probably won't be able to piece it together even with subtitles, since the writing has been so poor in these films so far. It's bad enough that we get constant pretentious speeches, but they never even make any sense. In Batman Begins, the speeches are all about how Batman refuses to kill his enemies, and he ends up killing the villain at the end and he mumbles something about how he's not killing, he's just "not saving." In The Dark Knight, the speeches are about how the Joker is an "agent of chaos" who doesn't have a plan, and yet everything he does is based on the most ludicrously elaborate plans that not even Jigsaw from the Saw films would attempt.

I don't expect this to be improved in Part 3. Nolan already has the world believing that he's a brilliant filmmaker who's immune to criticism, and when Rises is released, it'll be praised to the moon and back no matter what kind of flaws it has.

As strange as it may sound, even though I am not a native English speaker (I am self taught), I could understand clearly what Bane said: "When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die." What I really cannot understand is what those two upperclass citizens said at the party, before Gordon appeared. Something about the mayor? "The mayor is in the docks on display?"

Apparently, Ra's Al Ghul (Batman Begins' villain) is still alive, since Liam Neeson will appear on the film. The guy trained the Goddamn Batman: it is not that hard to believe he could survive the train.

But you are right about the Joker. Sure, he spreads chaos, but he plans every little detail. In fact, chaos would be worse to his plans than Batman.

Whatever. Nolan may be pretentious, but I see these movies as pure, unadultered fun. You are taking them too seriously to enjoy them. Do not forget that the main character is an obsessive, depressive manchild who fights criminals while wearing a Halloween costume.

Last edited by Magnus_Rex on 19 Dec 2011, 9:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The film sets the tone, not the viewer. Schindler's List won't become a fun adventure movie if I choose to view it as one. I'm not taking Nolan's Batman films too seriously at all; he is. He seems ashamed of his source material, like he can't believe he's making a drama about a man who dresses up as a bat to fight criminals. He doesn't allow them to be any fun. Ledger was the only actor in the second film who seemed to be having any fun with his part, and nobody in the first one seemed to. I know Batman is supposed to be the darkest of the superheroes, but Nolan takes it to a ridiculous extreme.

I agree. Whenever I read some comment suggesting Nolan should direct a Superman film, I feel a sudden urge to kill the bastard who suggests that. Batman may have benefitted from Nolan's grittiness, since his (Batman's) comics and even the 90s animated series were already very dark, but Superman surely would not.

And I admit that, even though I liked the previous films, I still missed Ra's immortality and Joker's "clownish-ness". Batman is pure escapist fantasy. Dressed in dark body armor, surely, but escapist anyway. But, all things considered, the actors did an amazing job.

Except for the "Bat-growl". Cannot. Stress that. Enough.

P.S.: I am so slow at typing that I actually quoted your previous, non-Schindler's List citing post. Anyway, the point is moot: as we both agree, Batman is a guy who beats up thugs while dressed as a bat. I am not taking that seriously, no matter the tone of the movie. And that is the reason I have fun with it. I appreciate the mythos and I am fully aware of its outlandish nature, despite its apparently "real" disguise.

P.P.S.: Can anyone tell me what the two rich guys were saying at Harvey Dent's... funeral?

Ooh, that's what he says. "Permission to die". I listened to it 5 times and couldn't figure it out. Now it makes sense.

I hope we don't have to sit through that little girly boy at the start singing the whole goddam song.

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They say something like

Guy 1: The mayor's gonna dump him in the spring.

Guy 2: Really? But he's a hero.

Guy 1: He's a war hero. Dis is peace tiem

Sorry. I have a habit of editing a post 50 times after submitting it to add new thoughts instead of making a new post. They sometimes get rewritten beyond recognition by the time someone quotes them.

Anyway, I would be able to enjoy Nolan's Batman films more if every single actor wasn't so goddamned grim and serious. They feel less like Batman movies and more like sequels to Seven. Yeah, I know, Batman is dark darkity dark dark dark. But if you're going to make it this dark and serious, and especially if you're going to attempt to impress me with how amazingly profound your screenplays are, do me a favor and run them by a script supervisor who can tell you that none of it makes any sense.

No worries, though. The fanboys can have their Nolan films and enjoy them. I'll be over here enjoying Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes, which I consider the best Batman films in years. Everybody wins.

I will refrain from commenting on Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes, because then you guys are going to think I am gay for Robert Downey Jr.
Best of all, Iron Man had no script. The guy on the comments session of this site said it better than I could:

@The_Perfect_Storm: Thanks for the translation.