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19 Jun 2012, 3:03 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydXenL7iu0w[/youtube]

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19 Jun 2012, 10:04 pm

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20 Jun 2012, 4:33 pm

Those are some creepy ones. However, I remember when I was a kid, that early TNG episode with the parasite was one of my favourite episode.

One shot I found quite disturbing was in 'Yesterday's Enterprise', when the captain of the Enterprise-C is killed by a piece of debris in her head.


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21 Jun 2012, 1:32 pm

Yes that TNG episode is one of the best early ones from the first few seasons. It was kind of an unfinished story too. Data says the mother creature sent out a homing beacon to an unexplored sector of the galaxy before it was killed.

That scene from Star Trek II is very scary especially since Khan says that those Seti eels killed over 20 of his people. 8O



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26 Jun 2012, 4:00 am

That transporter accident scene in TMP really freaked me out, as a kid.



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26 Jun 2012, 5:04 pm

Star Trek:TMP was only rated-G even though it has a number of creepy scenes in it. I guess movies got a G-rating much easier back then.

I also think that TMP is the most "trippy" Star Trek movie of all. It's like 2001 in a lot of ways.



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26 Jun 2012, 6:38 pm

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Okay, going OT a little, and across the Channel to be precise, here's the two scenes from Doctor Who that stand out in my mind...

Firstly, this fan-made trailer fof the otherwise forgettable story The Dominators showcases a surprisingly gruesome special effect (at about 50 seconds into the trailer), showing what happens when a Quark blast hits a person...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Ojm8fp8xY[/youtube]


And secondly, what happens when an alien used to subzero temperatures decides to commit suicide via unfiltered sunlight? The villainous Kane's suicide in Dragonfire shows what happens...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWK2UU2cPNg[/youtube]


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27 Jun 2012, 10:56 pm

Wow those are pretty shocking for being from the 50s-60s.



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28 Jun 2012, 7:43 am

Venger wrote:
Wow those are pretty shocking for being from the 50s-60s.


The first one was from the late 60s. The second one was from 1987.

The first effect (from The Dominators) was actually done in a weird manner. They took a picture of the actress, Nicolette Pendrell (her character's name was Tolata), and then did a thing where they replaced only the skin on her body in the photo with footage of oil rippling on water. The process was apparently complex for the time, as it used something called an optical printer, used to meld two film sequences together. But the effect is surprisingly nasty. For all later deaths at the hands of the Quarks, they simply used smoke piped through the clothing of those killed, something also used for deaths at the hands of the Cybermen in the first three Cybermen stories (The Tenth Planet, The Moonbase, and The Tomb of the Cybermen).

The second scene, of Kane's suicide from Dragonfire, actually used the same technique for the sequence where Toht's head melts in Raiders of the Lost Ark. They took a mold of Edward Peel's head, made it up with gelatin flesh over a skull, and stuck it in front of a heat gun for several minutes, speeding up the footage in post production. They were careful not to use any reds for Kane's innards, but even then, the footage was edited.

Unfortunately, some of the more gruesome deaths in the series no longer exist. In the fourth episode of The Tenth Planet, the Cybermen collapse and shrivel when Mondas blows up, and in The Moonbase, Cybermen hit with a solvent mixture froth up and shrivel. A not dissimilar death is seen in The Tomb of the Cybermen (which does exist, by the way), when a cybernetically enhanced man rips out the grill of a Cyberman's chest unit, and it begins spewing foam while the Cyberman writhes in agony.

More than one character has been aged to death too: at the end of The Dalek Masterplan, Sara Kingdom ages to death thanks to the effects of the Time Destructor. No footage remains, only production photographs. Professor Kerensky suffers a similar fate in City of Death, which does exist, and while the initial stage of the sequence is OTT, the rest of it is actually quite horrific. Not to mention Marcus Scarman crumbling into bits when he is released from Sutekh's control in Pyramids of Mars, but that's not aging to death, technically, it was basically because he was an animated cadaver.

And then, you have the various people with horrific deformities. Robert Holmes seemed rather fond of these, as at least three villains he wrote, the decaying, out-of-regenerations Master in The Deadly Assassin, Magnus Greel from The Talons of Weng-Chiang (courtesy of a malfunctioning time machine) and Sharaz Jek from The Caves of Androzani (courtesy of a boiling mud geyser) have horrific faces.

In fact, here's the sequence in question from The Caves of Androzani. And for bonus points, spot the actor who would later appear in Star Trek.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE_NyazSuYk[/youtube]

"You stinking offal, Morgus, LOOK AT ME! !!" 8O


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28 Jun 2012, 6:23 pm

Is that guy in the mask the one that appeared in a Star Trek episode? Or is it one of the others in that scene?



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28 Jun 2012, 6:38 pm

Is the guy in the blue suit Colm Meaney (Chief O'Brien)?


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28 Jun 2012, 10:37 pm

We seek peaceful coexistence!



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28 Jun 2012, 11:53 pm

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The guy that says that was in an earlier episode too. I wonder if he already had the Mother parasite living inside him then? :eew:



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29 Jun 2012, 12:48 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGuzse9GpEg[/youtube]
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29 Jun 2012, 6:21 am

Patrick Stewart got to play King Richard in the movie "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" because of that TNG episode.



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29 Jun 2012, 7:31 am

Venger wrote:
Is that guy in the mask the one that appeared in a Star Trek episode? Or is it one of the others in that scene?


It's actually the bearded one in the bandanna, Stotz, played by Maurice Roëves.

Oh, and CyclopsSummers? It's not Colm Meaney, it's Robert Glenister. Playing an android replica of a soldier named Salateen.


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