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09 Jan 2012, 12:40 am

So now in the latest episode of Sherlock we have Watson diagnosing Sherlock as an Aspie. You know, this, combined with Bones and Doc Martin, leads me to believe that a somewhat positive stereotype is emerging about us Aspies.

I think everyone is now going to expect us to be able to do a "Sherlock Scan" at a moment's notice. :?

That said, Sherlock's "memory palace" scene did remind me of how my own thought process works.

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09 Jan 2012, 11:52 am

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09 Jan 2012, 6:19 pm

I'd definitely agree there that the "memory place" also reminds me of my own thought process. I find it beneficial to take time out to just process things and analyse them - sometimes in a meditative state, sometimes whilst I'm doing other things.

Personally I think Aspergers is becoming a bit of a fad in crime dramas as you suggest.

If anyone who knows of my personality type asks me to do a 'Sherlock scan', I'll gladly oblige by freaking them out as much as possible.



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09 Jan 2012, 6:34 pm

Arthur Conan Doyle wrote a great short story called "How Watson Learned the Trick" in which Watson attempts to use Holmes's methods to infer various bits of information about him. He fails miserably and hilariously. I would probably be equally unsuccessful if I tried it.

The TV series with Jeremy Brett and David Burke used it in an episode:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euL0ldYTTe0[/youtube]



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10 Jan 2012, 8:28 am

XD well first off I LOVE the show. When I watched it for the first time, I immediately saw a connection. My mom points out that I can do a Sherlock Scan lol I told her I am not as fast as the Character, but I guess always notice things no one else does.... and I don't jump to conclusions based on a bias from emotions and such.

I actually find it refreshing to see higher function Aspies being "represented" in the media. When I used to mention I am Autistic, people are like "o.o but you can speak." or "You seem normal to me <.<" Ya, ya it's ignorance, but lately people are like oh! Like Reid? Omg he's cool! So with Sherlock growing in popularity I am looking forward to more positive outlooks to this diagnosis lol



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10 Jan 2012, 4:20 pm

When Holmes responded with the word, "Aspergers," it was done simply and elegantly. You almost could've missed it. I liked that. It's much better than all the heavy-handed presentations you get in the media. I'll bet the characters never mention it again.

I love the way Sherlock's thought processes are shown. Sometimes I spend too many waking hours in my own "memory palace." At the very least, it seems like a constant overlay.


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10 Jan 2012, 4:41 pm

safffron wrote:
When Holmes responded with the word, "Aspergers,"


You mean Watson?

safffron wrote:
I love the way Sherlock's thought processes are shown. Sometimes I spend too many waking hours in my own "memory palace." At the very least, it seems like a constant overlay.


The way that Holmes uses his hands to "arrange" the information in his head as it's displayed on the screen reminded me of Gary manipulating the radio signals he can see in Alphas.



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10 Jan 2012, 4:58 pm

Jory wrote:
safffron wrote:
When Holmes responded with the word, "Aspergers,"


You mean Watson?


Yes, of course, Watson. Thanks for the correction.



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10 Jan 2012, 5:03 pm

Well technically Sherlock is a sociopathic Aspie, since he says in the very first episode that he's a high-functioning sociopath (not a psychopath, Anderson, do your research, even though the terms are literally interchangeable :P).



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10 Jan 2012, 11:32 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Well technically Sherlock is a sociopathic Aspie, since he says in the very first episode that he's a high-functioning sociopath (not a psychopath, Anderson, do your research, even though the terms are literally interchangeable :P).


Yeah the point was he was wrong though. He's not a sociopath. This becomes quite clear by the end of the first series.



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11 Jan 2012, 9:40 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Well technically Sherlock is a sociopathic Aspie, since he says in the very first episode that he's a high-functioning sociopath (not a psychopath, Anderson, do your research, even though the terms are literally interchangeable :P).


Yeah the point was he was wrong though. He's not a sociopath. This becomes quite clear by the end of the first series.


How so?



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11 Jan 2012, 1:02 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Well technically Sherlock is a sociopathic Aspie, since he says in the very first episode that he's a high-functioning sociopath (not a psychopath, Anderson, do your research, even though the terms are literally interchangeable :P).


Yeah the point was he was wrong though. He's not a sociopath. This becomes quite clear by the end of the first series.


How so?


He genuinely cares for Watson and that maid or whatever. Sociopaths can't do that?



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11 Jan 2012, 1:06 pm

A high-functioning sociopath can care for a very limited number of people who are close to them, though said sociopath can still screw with those people without feeling guilty (like when Sherlock believed he had drugged Watson's tea then locked him in the lab).



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11 Jan 2012, 1:21 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
A high-functioning sociopath can care for a very limited number of people who are close to them, though said sociopath can still screw with those people without feeling guilty (like when Sherlock believed he had drugged Watson's tea then locked him in the lab).


"sociopath" isn't even a real diagnosis so I'm not sure where you are getting your fantastic information from..



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11 Jan 2012, 1:26 pm

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
A high-functioning sociopath can care for a very limited number of people who are close to them, though said sociopath can still screw with those people without feeling guilty (like when Sherlock believed he had drugged Watson's tea then locked him in the lab).


"sociopath" isn't even a real diagnosis so I'm not sure where you are getting your fantastic information from..


http://www.sociopathworld.com/2009/01/d ... -love.html

Read that, and feel free to browse through some other stuff on that site too. It's written by a sociopath (i.e. someone diagnosed with APD, which psychopath and sociopath are of course colloquial terms for).

I know my s**t.



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11 Jan 2012, 10:49 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
A high-functioning sociopath can care for a very limited number of people who are close to them, though said sociopath can still screw with those people without feeling guilty (like when Sherlock believed he had drugged Watson's tea then locked him in the lab).


"sociopath" isn't even a real diagnosis so I'm not sure where you are getting your fantastic information from..


http://www.sociopathworld.com/2009/01/d ... -love.html

Read that, and feel free to browse through some other stuff on that site too. It's written by a sociopath (i.e. someone diagnosed with APD, which psychopath and sociopath are of course colloquial terms for).

I know my s**t.


You may have noticed that the 'love' described there doesn't match what was on the show. At all.

The blog posts aren't particularly credible either. Do you have anything better?