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23 Oct 2013, 7:37 am

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- Ok, so there's this theory I've been suspicious about since Lori's passing away during the second episode of season 3.
Those of you who saw that episode might remember the scene of it all: Our survivors hideaway aka. the prison, is under assault by a horde of walkers. The situation quickly escalates, leading our group to part in the chaos, Carl, Maggie and Lori somehow managing to stay together. The trio being chased by a bunch of walkers, make their way through the darkened prison corridors, their hungry stalkers steadily closing up on them. It is of course at this exact moment Lori starts to get her contractions, oh no, Panic!. Luckily Carl manage to find a room where they can hide out. Lori tries to give birth, but seems to be failing when symptoms as bleeding's from the lower area starts to occur. Lori now realizing that a C-section is her only chance of saving her baby, settles down with the fact that this will lead to her own death. After the painful "operation", all the while Lori is bleeding out, she and her son then shares a touching moment of farewell, before she eventually dies. What now need to be done is to "lobotomize" Lori's corpse, this in order to prevent her from becoming a walker. Carl manage to persuade Maggie that he should do it. Whilst Maggie takes the baby with her, leaving the room, we seconds later hear the shot of Carl's pistol. Next we know a serious Carl leaves the room, to then express to a upset Maggie that "the deed" is done.

-------> So, what can we say about it really.. We can't know for sure that Carl actually shot her (or shot her properly). Yes we later on in another episode witnessed Rick in the exact same room, stumbling upon a bloated walker, who seemingly had feasted on Lori's corpse. But we don't really know for sure. What if Lori reanimated and left the prison site. I mean it is quite possible. That sometimes in a future episode (which the producers/actors of course wouldn't want to reveal) a walker Lori will appear, to Rick and the other survivor's surprise.
Besides, why let something off just like that, when you instead can surprise the fans with something they'd never expect to happen.


- Any thoughts? agree? disagree?



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23 Oct 2013, 12:25 pm

I was surprised at how deadly a "c" section was in the first place, do people die that quickly in real life when having a C section?

Now the show has already brought Lori back to life in that she is either a Ghost, or figment of Ricks imagination and breakdown, I think it would be silly for the show to bring Lori back to life twice and in two different manners.



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23 Oct 2013, 1:33 pm

The thread TITLE is a MASSIVE spoiler. Thanks a lot for ruining my The Walking Dead experience, you as*hole.

Seriously?



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23 Oct 2013, 3:44 pm

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The thread TITLE is a MASSIVE spoiler. Thanks a lot for ruining my The Walking Dead experience, you as*hole.

Seriously?


Lol i can't see why you find the thread title a spoiler.. --_--



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23 Oct 2013, 4:29 pm

Lori is only there in Rick's tortured mind. Trust me.


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23 Oct 2013, 4:48 pm

GGPViper wrote:
The thread TITLE is a MASSIVE spoiler. Thanks a lot for ruining my The Walking Dead experience, you as*hole.

Seriously?


No it's not a spoiler. A spoiler tells you something that will happen before you see it. The OP is just fielding a theory, which although physically possible seems unlikely. Spectulation is another word for it.

As far as your name calling, I think you pretty much just called out yourself.



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23 Oct 2013, 4:53 pm

Monolithe wrote:
------------- S P O I L E R'S ---------------



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"NOT|SO|DEAD-DEAD|AFTER|ALL?"
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- Ok, so there's this theory I've been suspicious about since Lori's passing away during the second episode of season 3.
Those of you who saw that episode might remember the scene of it all: Our survivors hideaway aka. the prison, is under assault by a horde of walkers. The situation quickly escalates, leading our group to part in the chaos, Carl, Maggie and Lori somehow managing to stay together. The trio being chased by a bunch of walkers, make their way through the darkened prison corridors, their hungry stalkers steadily closing up on them. It is of course at this exact moment Lori starts to get her contractions, oh no, Panic!. Luckily Carl manage to find a room where they can hide out. Lori tries to give birth, but seems to be failing when symptoms as bleeding's from the lower area starts to occur. Lori now realizing that a C-section is her only chance of saving her baby, settles down with the fact that this will lead to her own death. After the painful "operation", all the while Lori is bleeding out, she and her son then shares a touching moment of farewell, before she eventually dies. What now need to be done is to "lobotomize" Lori's corpse, this in order to prevent her from becoming a walker. Carl manage to persuade Maggie that he should do it. Whilst Maggie takes the baby with her, leaving the room, we seconds later hear the shot of Carl's pistol. Next we know a serious Carl leaves the room, to then express to a upset Maggie that "the deed" is done.

-------> So, what can we say about it really.. We can't know for sure that Carl actually shot her (or shot her properly). Yes we later on in another episode witnessed Rick in the exact same room, stumbling upon a bloated walker, who seemingly had feasted on Lori's corpse. But we don't really know for sure. What if Lori reanimated and left the prison site. I mean it is quite possible. That sometimes in a future episode (which the producers/actors of course wouldn't want to reveal) a walker Lori will appear, to Rick and the other survivor's surprise.
Besides, why let something off just like that, when you instead can surprise the fans with something they'd never expect to happen.


- Any thoughts? agree? disagree?


I did notice that too, that you never actually see Lori's corpse. I suppose it could have been done as shown so as not to show her in such a state (kind of respect) or perhaps just as a change up. I also saw something in passing on You-tube about Lori in zombie-state, like a un-used or deleted scene but I did not watch it.

It may have been the result of a mish-mash, like they were unsure what they were going to do.



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23 Oct 2013, 10:44 pm

Toy_Soldier wrote:
Monolithe wrote:
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"NOT|SO|DEAD-DEAD|AFTER|ALL?"
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- Ok, so there's this theory I've been suspicious about since Lori's passing away during the second episode of season 3.
Those of you who saw that episode might remember the scene of it all: Our survivors hideaway aka. the prison, is under assault by a horde of walkers. The situation quickly escalates, leading our group to part in the chaos, Carl, Maggie and Lori somehow managing to stay together. The trio being chased by a bunch of walkers, make their way through the darkened prison corridors, their hungry stalkers steadily closing up on them. It is of course at this exact moment Lori starts to get her contractions, oh no, Panic!. Luckily Carl manage to find a room where they can hide out. Lori tries to give birth, but seems to be failing when symptoms as bleeding's from the lower area starts to occur. Lori now realizing that a C-section is her only chance of saving her baby, settles down with the fact that this will lead to her own death. After the painful "operation", all the while Lori is bleeding out, she and her son then shares a touching moment of farewell, before she eventually dies. What now need to be done is to "lobotomize" Lori's corpse, this in order to prevent her from becoming a walker. Carl manage to persuade Maggie that he should do it. Whilst Maggie takes the baby with her, leaving the room, we seconds later hear the shot of Carl's pistol. Next we know a serious Carl leaves the room, to then express to a upset Maggie that "the deed" is done.

-------> So, what can we say about it really.. We can't know for sure that Carl actually shot her (or shot her properly). Yes we later on in another episode witnessed Rick in the exact same room, stumbling upon a bloated walker, who seemingly had feasted on Lori's corpse. But we don't really know for sure. What if Lori reanimated and left the prison site. I mean it is quite possible. That sometimes in a future episode (which the producers/actors of course wouldn't want to reveal) a walker Lori will appear, to Rick and the other survivor's surprise.
Besides, why let something off just like that, when you instead can surprise the fans with something they'd never expect to happen.


- Any thoughts? agree? disagree?


I did notice that too, that you never actually see Lori's corpse. I suppose it could have been done as shown so as not to show her in such a state (kind of respect) or perhaps just as a change up. I also saw something in passing on You-tube about Lori in zombie-state, like a un-used or deleted scene but I did not watch it.

It may have been the result of a mish-mash, like they were unsure what they were going to do.


Yes I've heard of that deleted scene to - the zombie Lori episode your talking about is inspired/taken out from the comic books, where she shows up in his dream as a zombie.

I'm not saying i wan't her to appear on the show again, but i suspect she might. Most of all since there were so much uncertainty surrounding Lori's death. What if in a future episode, for example Rick/Carl or more of the group will stumble upon a walker feasting on or attacking someone in their group - only to when the zombie lifts is head, realize that it is a zombified Lori.
..Yes my theory does sound kind of stupid, but it would have come as a shock to people, and it would have been an episode to remember.
LOL although i think the "Lori haters" fan base would have been upset about having to face her once again. :P



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24 Oct 2013, 7:03 am

Maybe Rick see's her when she's a Zombie, catches here, keeps her locked in a room on a chain, so he can feed her and comb her hair lovingly, whilst he finds a scientist who can work on a cure?

Then when shes cured he can wind up one-eye!



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24 Oct 2013, 12:42 pm

Nambo wrote:
Maybe Rick see's her when she's a Zombie, catches here, keeps her locked in a room on a chain, so he can feed her and comb her hair lovingly, whilst he finds a scientist who can work on a cure?

Then when shes cured he can wind up one-eye!



Funny, Rick's parodying the governor :P

Although, It wouldn't have ended well.. All that Rotten skin, being gangrene and all (probably also leading to her death after a said cure). Would have been sort of selfish to keep her alive in such a painful/damaged state.



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24 Oct 2013, 3:48 pm

While not logically impossible that Lori could have survived, considering Walking Dead's style I feel pretty confident in saying it won't happen. As far as I know the comic has never had a character seem to die and then be found alive, and the show has seemed to follow that general rule as well. If the show makes it out to even strongly imply that a character is dead, I think it's safe to assume they aren't coming back (except maybe as a zombie).



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24 Oct 2013, 3:52 pm

Bitoku wrote:
While not logically impossible that Lori could have survived, considering Walking Dead's style I feel pretty confident in saying it won't happen. As far as I know the comic has never had a character seem to die and then be found alive, and the show has seemed to follow that general rule as well. If the show makes it out to even strongly imply that a character is dead, I think it's safe to assume they aren't coming back (except maybe as a zombie).


Not so.

*cough* Tyreese in the prison gym *cough*

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25 Oct 2013, 1:20 pm

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Not so.
*cough* Tyreese in the prison gym *cough*
:P

Well okay, I guess it's possible... but we can at least know that she's not going to be back in it as a main character unless we see her appear in the main opening credits again.



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25 Oct 2013, 2:51 pm

You never see Lori's body. And though you see the alka seltzer needing zombie something is missing. Bones. They don't eat those.

So it seems left uncertain. Perhaps purposely. But only for a possible zombie cameo I think.



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27 Oct 2013, 3:04 am

GoonSquad wrote:
Bitoku wrote:
While not logically impossible that Lori could have survived, considering Walking Dead's style I feel pretty confident in saying it won't happen. As far as I know the comic has never had a character seem to die and then be found alive, and the show has seemed to follow that general rule as well. If the show makes it out to even strongly imply that a character is dead, I think it's safe to assume they aren't coming back (except maybe as a zombie).


Not so.

*cough* Tyreese in the prison gym *cough*

:P



the whole show is based on people thinking a character has died and coming back though. wasn't rick thought to have died ? Leading lori to hook up with someone else?

What about Andrea? When the season ended where they were at the farm, she was thought to have died for a good while. Darryls brother's fate was left unresolved from the beginning of the first season to the beginning of the third.

Between series anything can happen when they're writing things and putting things together.

I couldn't see her being found alive but the ops point that things were never definitely wound up with the lori character is a good one.

It'll probably turn out that Carl is keeping her locked up in one of the cells because he can't let her go :twisted: .

It's even happened to the actress that plays lori in a previous show she starred in.

She was in prison break before The walking dead and her character got killed and they even intended her to die. Then a series later they wanted her back and they realised that the way they killed her off was kinda ambiguous.

It's like in the kill bill movies. Elle Driver is left in that trailer, with her remaining eye plucked out, thrashing around and making herself a big target for the black mamba snake that we know is loose in there, with the assumption that she won't get out alive.

Except Quentin Tarrentino has since mentioned that any possible sequel would have Elle teaching Vernita Green's daughter so that she can get revenge for the killing of her mother.

The proper way to think of characters like this is Unresolved.