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pawelk1986
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08 Jan 2013, 2:22 am

I once watched the movie "The King's Speech" since then sometimes I wonder if King George VI did not suffer from Asperger's syndrome. He did not he liked public speaking, unpleasant inconvenience for the king :-)
He had a speech impediment. And above all he was the type of family man who only feels comfortable surrounded by family and friends.



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08 Jan 2013, 12:37 pm

No, he can't have Asperger's because he is dead.

But did he? I could see why one might think that, but he's still dead.



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08 Jan 2013, 1:22 pm

Judging a dead mans character from a portrayal of his character in a motion picture is really not a sound way of concluding anything about the dead man. The actor brings some of his own persona to the part.

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08 Jan 2013, 1:34 pm

CSBurks wrote:
No, he can't have Asperger's because he is dead.

But did he? I could see why one might think that, but he's still dead.

Pawelk is Polish so the occasional slip like that is understandable.

I imagine he was merely introverted, his older brother was supposed to be king after all.

Mind you, Prince Andrew, Prince Harry...



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08 Jan 2013, 1:50 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
CSBurks wrote:
No, he can't have Asperger's because he is dead.

But did he? I could see why one might think that, but he's still dead.

Pawelk is Polish so the occasional slip like that is understandable.

I imagine he was merely introverted, his older brother was supposed to be king after all.

Mind you, Prince Andrew, Prince Harry...


Well that makes more sense.



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08 Jan 2013, 2:03 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
CSBurks wrote:
No, he can't have Asperger's because he is dead.

But did he? I could see why one might think that, but he's still dead.

Pawelk is Polish so the occasional slip like that is understandable.

I imagine he was merely introverted, his older brother was supposed to be king after all.

Mind you, Prince Andrew, Prince Harry...


But he used the vocabulary very mismatched to someone who is supposedly noble born :D



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08 Jan 2013, 2:50 pm

He was raised by servants and distant relatives, he had a speech impediment, and he was'nt expected to take the Throne. That's more than enough noise to screw up any DX in a livng person, let alone a dead person who was in the public eye for 20 years. I doubt ASDs were the issue.

Given the circumstances, if they had any doubts about his ability in a time of impending war, he would have been quietly passed over, since he had no issue (heir) at the time of his installation.


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08 Jan 2013, 3:31 pm

None of these things are clinical indicators of an autism spectrum disorder.

Neither a speech impediment nor a preference for family settings over settings with strangers does not demonstrate a marked impairment in social interaction.

Restricted, repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behaviour are an essential component of diagnosis. None appear.

These endless games of, "Did X have Asperger's," only serves to diminish ASD's. We do not serve our own interests by watering down the meaning of "marked impairment" and "clinically significant impairment" in order to gather in all manner of worthy historical figures into our numbers. This is what leads to ASDs being dismissed as merely the latest fad diagnosis whenever someone is looking to pathologize what are, in truth, perfectly typical behaviours.


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08 Jan 2013, 6:58 pm

This. ^

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09 Jan 2013, 8:52 am

I've never found anything that indicated he had Asperger's. I know he stuttered, and somewhat lacked self confidence. Fortunately, his wife, Queen Elizabeth helped him very much. If there is anything good about Wallis Simpson is that it was thanks to her that Bertie became king and Lilibet queen. Bertie was certainly a better king than David could have been.


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09 Jan 2013, 9:38 am

i have long been a fan of price phillip's gaffes. he seems to have no idea about political correctness. this is a clip that shows some of his gaffes, but there are many more that are documented.
maybe he has asperger syndrome? (joke).

but i do like him.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oN6bvi_lLo[/youtube]



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09 Jan 2013, 11:32 am

persian85033 wrote:
I've never found anything that indicated he had Asperger's. I know he stuttered, and somewhat lacked self confidence. Fortunately, his wife, Queen Elizabeth helped him very much. If there is anything good about Wallis Simpson is that it was thanks to her that Bertie became king and Lilibet queen. Bertie was certainly a better king than David could have been.


Truth George VI was much better king despite his speech impediment than his older brother, Edward VIII. Anyway, what's the king who makes fun of his brother's disability.
I am very moved by the scene in which the "King" Edward VIII mocking Bertie stuttering, I thought, what Jerk he is :D



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09 Jan 2013, 12:36 pm

I'd rather place my bet on George of the Jungle being an Aspie than on a dead king George.



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09 Jan 2013, 1:46 pm

Prince Phillip has kind of had to work his way in being prince consort. It's harder when there's a queen regnant and prince consort. Then, like also, there's no place in the order of precedence if a queen regnant dies before her consort. For ladies, any dowagers come after the reigning consort/sovereign. For gentlemen, the sovereign's sons come right after the sovereign, or in some cases, like this one, consort. Then there was the whole thing about the name. He also had a very tough childhood.


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Given the circumstances, if they had any doubts about his ability in a time of impending war, he would have been quietly passed over, since he had no issue (heir) at the time of his installation.


Bertie did have issue. He had two daughters. Elizabeth II was born Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary of York. She and her sister were born when Bertie was still Duke of York.


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10 Jan 2013, 2:05 am

I am glad we have no royalty or nobility in America. I think we have done so much better without it.



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27 Feb 2013, 10:16 pm

As someone with an interest in the House of Windsor and AS, I'd say not so much George VI had Aspergers, though I do think most likely Queen Mary had it and is slightly possible the Queen, Elizabeth II, has it. It would explain a lot in their personalities.