high frame rate cinema, how does it strike you?

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does high-frame cinema look better to you?
yes, the clarity and lack of judder are a relief to my tired eyes :o 38%  38%  [ 3 ]
NO! it is too jarring and harsh and untraditional :x 25%  25%  [ 2 ]
meh. :shrug: 25%  25%  [ 2 ]
more ice cream, por favor :chef: 13%  13%  [ 1 ]
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23 Nov 2016, 5:57 am

the first mainstream film recorded at high frame rate [48 frames per second or higher] was the last hobbit movie directed by peter Jackson. lately there is a new film called "billy lynn's halftime walk" [a movie with a major portion of war scenes] recorded at 120 frames per second, a record for a mainstream film.
http://www.slashfilm.com/ang-lee-120-fps-footage/
http://www.scpr.org/programs/airtalk/20 ... cond-coul/
http://tnsjournal.com/culture/avatar-se ... er-second/
Douglas Trumbull, a few decades back, pioneered a process he called "showscan" that took regular IMAX film and sped the frame rate up to 60 frames, noticing that as the frame rate increased, test audiences showed increases in heart rate and respiration/perspiration and other vital signs, indicating increased psychological involvement in the process which subjectively increased "realism" based on the on-screen action appearing as smooth as in real life, with no visible judder. later on, this was adapted by IMAX itself with its 48 frame "high definition" process. Trumbull was also involved with the high-frame-rate recording process on Billy Lynn, and is presently tweaking the film to improve the experience even further, but not without pushback from traditionalists who could not tolerate the smooth on-screen motion and enhanced clarity, which btw was used just for the wartime scenes to give them an extra viscerality.
in the early 90s I was treated in las vegas, to a viewing of a Trumbull Showscan presentation, "journey of the nile" at the luxor theatre. the first thing I noticed, was that compared to 24 frame per second exhibition, the utmost clarity of the tiniest details such as peach fuzz, skin pores and types of makeup used were as plain as day. image/focus depth seemed to go on forever, onscreen movement was just as smooth as real life, and material textures stood out almost in a quasi-3D manner as did all onscreen action, it was all very palpably like real life. it made me sweat and my respiration get shallow and my heart pound, it was enthralling. compared to it, regular movies seemed utterly dull, opaque and uninvolving, passé. since then I have wanted to see somebody in Hollywood take up the high frame-rate mantle, and ang lee [also peter Jackson and james Cameron] finally stepped up to the plate and promised more new films in the new high frame rate.
anybody else ever watch a high-frame-rate presentation in the cinema? I want to hear your experiences with this, positive or negative.



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23 Nov 2016, 9:11 pm

Ugh! I am so sick of games and movies going on "High Framerates". Not only is it a strain on my eyes, but it looks un-real as well, like how modern CGI tried to look more and more real, but just winds up looking even more fake.

Can I have an icecream now? :chef:


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23 Nov 2016, 9:21 pm

^^^which flavor??



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23 Nov 2016, 9:30 pm

auntblabby wrote:
^^^which flavor??


Vanilla please. :D

What's your opinion of HighDefiniton TV's?


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23 Nov 2016, 9:33 pm

Austinfrom1995 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^which flavor??

Vanilla please. :D What's your opinion of HighDefiniton TV's?

I like the sets that have high frame rate and judder elimination circuitry built-in, I've always been sensitive to judder. the American high def tv standard [ATSC] sucks IMHO, in that it has way too many and too obvious digital artifacting under most broadcast conditions, and it notably non-robust in reception under anything less than optimal conditions.



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23 Nov 2016, 9:34 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Austinfrom1995 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^which flavor??

Vanilla please. :D What's your opinion of HighDefiniton TV's?

I like the sets that have high frame rate and judder elimination circuitry built-in, I've always been sensitive to judder. the American high def tv standard [ATSC] sucks IMHO, in that it has way too many and too obvious digital artifacting under most broadcast conditions, and it notably non-robust in reception under anything less than optimal conditions.


I see, interesting :chin:

I for one am rather indifferent to HDTVs, I can see fine on regular old definition, so I don't see the benefits of paying more for more HD.


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23 Nov 2016, 9:36 pm

for me, the extra detail is eye candy, I've long been frustrated by the limitations of NTSC [the old analog system] so when hidef came along I was smitten.



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23 Nov 2016, 9:43 pm

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for me, the extra detail is eye candy, I've long been frustrated by the limitations of NTSC [the old analog system] so when hidef came along I was smitten.


Perhaps, but do we really need to see every grain of sand on the digital beach? :P I play a lot of Halo, and I would take Halo: CE's simpler designs over Halo 5's uber-detailed ones. Sometimes a lot of detail is just too much for me to take in.


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23 Nov 2016, 9:50 pm

to each their own :star: did you see the high-frame-rate version of the last hobbit movie?



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23 Nov 2016, 9:57 pm


select full screen and 720P HD [or higher] to enjoy the smooth-motion anti-judder effect. only some action scenes were actually high frame rate, they will stick out quite vividly compared to the 24 frame version.



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23 Nov 2016, 11:57 pm

auntblabby wrote:
to each their own :star: did you see the high-frame-rate version of the last hobbit movie?


Yup, to each their own! :star:

No, but only because I don't watch the LOTRs movies.


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24 Nov 2016, 12:03 am

I hope to be able to see a high frame rate 3D movie one of these days...



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24 Nov 2016, 10:21 pm

It looks really cool to me for about 5 minutes, then I don't even notice it anymore. Same with 3D movies and extra-large screens.



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24 Nov 2016, 10:23 pm

^^^if your brain is anything like mine, it more quickly acclimates to improved resolution, than it does to sudden loss of resolution.



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24 Nov 2016, 10:53 pm


above demo is 24 versus 48 frame per second. 48 appears smoother, 24 appears jerkier.



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28 Nov 2016, 10:26 pm

auntblabby wrote:
I hope to be able to see a high frame rate 3D movie one of these days...


Well I hope you get your wish! :star:


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