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28 Jul 2018, 11:44 am
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09 Aug 2018, 6:20 am
I remember as a child how i hated to cute paper and always said sorry to it. I thought it to had Feelings, just like my toys or the poor balls being kicked about. Of Course i now know that it was never so, but i just remembered it when i read your post. 
P.s. haven't seen extinction yet
14 Aug 2020, 5:07 am
AspieLater wrote:
I was touched by the storyline of the movie "Extinction." I don't want to spoil anything about it for anyone. All I want to say is that I think we could avoid a lot of trouble if we treated all conscious beings with kindness or respect (at least).
As a kid I tried to have consideration for my toys so that none would feel left out or unloved. I bonded more with them than I did with people. It was only recently that I discovered that this is not uncommon for autistic kids.
While my toys weren't conscious, it seems like animals are. And AI will be. Perhaps now is the time to practice saying "thank you" to Siri, Alexa, etc.
As a kid I tried to have consideration for my toys so that none would feel left out or unloved. I bonded more with them than I did with people. It was only recently that I discovered that this is not uncommon for autistic kids.
While my toys weren't conscious, it seems like animals are. And AI will be. Perhaps now is the time to practice saying "thank you" to Siri, Alexa, etc.
Wow.
You really are into this sort of thing.
14 Aug 2020, 5:08 am
schuplanet wrote:
I remember as a child how i hated to cute paper and always said sorry to it. I thought it to had Feelings, just like my toys or the poor balls being kicked about. Of Course i now know that it was never so, but i just remembered it when i read your post.
P.s. haven't seen extinction yet
P.s. haven't seen extinction yet
I still have an uncomfortable feeling when I cut the grass of prune the hedges.
14 Aug 2020, 5:09 am
Skilpadde wrote:
I haven't seen (or heard of) Extinction, so I know nothing about that.
But I have always seen that animals have personalities and feelings. (And now, little by little, research is slowly starting to see that too. It's so strange to me that it has taken so long for people to start realize something so glaringly obvious)
But I have always seen that animals have personalities and feelings. (And now, little by little, research is slowly starting to see that too. It's so strange to me that it has taken so long for people to start realize something so glaringly obvious)
People are stupid.
Mystery solved.
14 Aug 2020, 5:06 pm
Pepe wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
I haven't seen (or heard of) Extinction, so I know nothing about that.
But I have always seen that animals have personalities and feelings. (And now, little by little, research is slowly starting to see that too. It's so strange to me that it has taken so long for people to start realize something so glaringly obvious)
But I have always seen that animals have personalities and feelings. (And now, little by little, research is slowly starting to see that too. It's so strange to me that it has taken so long for people to start realize something so glaringly obvious)
People are stupid.
Mystery solved.
...or at least, people are very, very good at motivated ignorance. A surprising number of mid-20th century biologists believed that animals don't "really" feel pain or have emotions. Apparently, pain and emotions miraculously sprang into being the moment we became humans, or something? Anyhow, regarding animals as fleshy "machines" with programmed reflexes and no inner experience neatly sidestepped the need to worry about experimental ethics.
15 Aug 2020, 12:05 am
15 Aug 2020, 7:25 am
PhosphorusDecree wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
I haven't seen (or heard of) Extinction, so I know nothing about that.
But I have always seen that animals have personalities and feelings. (And now, little by little, research is slowly starting to see that too. It's so strange to me that it has taken so long for people to start realize something so glaringly obvious)
But I have always seen that animals have personalities and feelings. (And now, little by little, research is slowly starting to see that too. It's so strange to me that it has taken so long for people to start realize something so glaringly obvious)
People are stupid.
Mystery solved.
...or at least, people are very, very good at motivated ignorance. A surprising number of mid-20th century biologists believed that animals don't "really" feel pain or have emotions. Apparently, pain and emotions miraculously sprang into being the moment we became humans, or something? Anyhow, regarding animals as fleshy "machines" with programmed reflexes and no inner experience neatly sidestepped the need to worry about experimental ethics.
Correction:
People are stupid and unconscionable.
