Double Retired wrote:
With some trepidation, I would like to also mention
Benny Hill's body of work.
I have some trepidation in listing him because his body of work was so often inappropriate. It was sexist and did not hesitate to apply offensive stereotypes to different racial and national groupings. But, off-screen, it appears he was not sexist. The gals that worked with him liked him, liked working with him, and noted that in the skits they always won...Benny and the other guys were the losers. I suspect the offensive aspects of his humor were there because he thought that was how he was supposed to do it and that was what the audiences wanted.
There are some indications Benny Hill might have been an Aspie. But, right or wrong, he was clearly a genius who lead a secluded private life. And whose work can make me laugh.
I really struggle to objectively analyse Benny Hill. I grew up watching his shows and being hugely entertained by him. I believe he was a genuinely sweet man who just wanted to make people laugh.
And you're right, with sex the joke was always on him. It was always the male sex drive making men behave like idiots that was the joke - the reduction of man to beast. The racial stuff is harder to defend. It was of its time is just about all you can say.
But even the sex stuff, if not intended to be harmful, and even if no one involved felt unsafe at the time, contributed to a general pardoning of inappropriate behaviour by men. It's the idea that men have no control over their behaviour in the presence of a women they find sexually attractive. And therefore can't be blamed for anything they do or say. And that
is harmful. Because it isn't true. But for a long time people thought it was, and many still do, and that suits some men very well. So you get Trump's "Grab 'em by the p****" line dismissed as "Locker room talk". People roll their eyes at Boris Johnson's repeated infidelities and numerous illegitimate children and still think he's basically a good fellow. You get people who think girls who get sexually assaulted were asking for it because they were wearing revealing clothing. It all contributes to a culture.
But also I think we lost something when sex stopped being silly. The only time you see sex now on TV is either when it has massive emotional consequences. It's either the culmination of a relationship (usually that's been drawn out for ages) or it's a sex crime that ruins peoples lives. The possibilty that sex can be fun, sex can be inconsequential, sex can be silly seems to have been erased from our culture. I think porn is unfortunately filling that void (oh dear) a bit now.
I don't know where the balance is there but I do think, despite the negatives, there was also something positive about Benny Hill's (and Carry On etc.) approach to making light of sex.
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