Why are British people always bag guys in movies?

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Dokken
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03 May 2008, 11:37 pm

Like in the original 3 Star Wars, all the bad guys are British. In Star Wars you never see a good guy that is British. Why is that?


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03 May 2008, 11:51 pm

maybe because the original movie was shot in Britain?..;)
Ewan MacGregor is Scots, that's the problem?
What about Princess Amygdala? isn't she British?

I dunno..I paid too much attention to the story, etc...;)



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04 May 2008, 12:07 am

pakled wrote:
maybe because the original movie was shot in Britain?..;)
Ewan MacGregor is Scots, that's the problem?
What about Princess Amygdala? isn't she British?

I dunno..I paid too much attention to the story, etc...;)

I mean the original 3 Star Wars, not the more recent ones.


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04 May 2008, 12:54 am

Because after they kicked the Spanish Armada's ass in 1588 and sorted out the Cromwell rebellion they went kicking ass all over the world. It was the infusion of Viking blood in 1066 that gave leadership to the Gaelic and Anglo Saxon people that allowed this. Until the USA got strong nobody could stand up to the Brits. Look at how they made their point to the surviving leaders of the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857 and you will see how upper class Brit accents make for good villans. Also Peter Cushing was in a lot of the Hammer Films and just plain kicked ass as Van Helsing and many other great roles.



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04 May 2008, 2:19 am

I wish that it wouldn't be that way. Movies tend to demonize people with British accents. That really pisses me off. No wonder I'm not interested in most of the movies that are in theatres, these days. Oh, I'm a demon, am I? Look at the real life demon with the
English accent. I think that it's because most movies are filmed in America. I'm glad that I don't sound like the majority of the people who are born in North America, and I am not a demon. I'd like to see a movie, where things are the other way around. :idea:


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04 May 2008, 6:05 am

Dokken wrote:
Like in the original 3 Star Wars, all the bad guys are British. In Star Wars you never see a good guy that is British. Why is that?


What about Alec Guinness? (Obi-Wan Kenobi) Or Frank Oz? (The operator/voice of Yoda)


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04 May 2008, 6:28 am

lol, ive noticed that too. maybe British accents scare Americans? *shrugs*



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04 May 2008, 9:45 am

Four Minutes is a good movie about a British man, Roger Bannister.



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04 May 2008, 12:06 pm

I think its because they can have a villan who speaks English but isn't American. :s



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04 May 2008, 1:46 pm

they did that In Star Wars to try to connect the Galactic Empire with British Imperalism and the s**t the UK did.


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04 May 2008, 1:54 pm

Because we act it well. The American accent in Britain is associated with being an a***hole or and idiot, so that's what we use you guys for in our movies and TV, and you guys use us for bad guys. Fair's fair.



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04 May 2008, 1:54 pm

pakled wrote:
maybe because the original movie was shot in Britain?..;)
Ewan MacGregor is Scots, that's the problem?
What about Princess Amygdala? isn't she British?

I dunno..I paid too much attention to the story, etc...;)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Princess Amygdala! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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04 May 2008, 3:05 pm

In series 1 of the wire both one of the prominent 'good' cops & one gangsters are both british (although the parts are baltimore locals)

Also in most british films, the good guys (well almost everyone actually) tend to be british.



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04 May 2008, 5:12 pm

Dokken wrote:
Like in the original 3 Star Wars, all the bad guys are British. In Star Wars you never see a good guy that is British. Why is that?


Alec Guinness and Evan McGregor played Obi-Wan Kenobi (who was a good guy) in the Star Wars movies, and they were BOTH British.



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04 May 2008, 7:17 pm

tcorrielus wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Like in the original 3 Star Wars, all the bad guys are British. In Star Wars you never see a good guy that is British. Why is that?


Alec Guinness and Evan McGregor played Obi-Wan Kenobi (who was a good guy) in the Star Wars movies, and they were BOTH British.


I don't mean the last 3 they put out. I fotgot what they where called, oh yes, special effects galore. Ewan McGregor isn't in the original 3.

Ben Kenobi is british, but still, you don't see any british people helping out the rebel alliance besides obi-wan. All the fighters that fly in the x-wings and stuff are all americans or not british.


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04 May 2008, 7:52 pm

Dokken wrote:
tcorrielus wrote:
Dokken wrote:
Like in the original 3 Star Wars, all the bad guys are British. In Star Wars you never see a good guy that is British. Why is that?


Alec Guinness and Evan McGregor played Obi-Wan Kenobi (who was a good guy) in the Star Wars movies, and they were BOTH British.


I don't mean the last 3 they put out. I fotgot what they where called, oh yes, special effects galore. Ewan McGregor isn't in the original 3.

Ben Kenobi is british, but still, you don't see any british people helping out the rebel alliance besides obi-wan. All the fighters that fly in the x-wings and stuff are all americans or not british.


Actually very few Rebel pilots weren't British. :lol:

Since they filmed in England, they hired British actors for most minor roles.

American Rebels -
Episode IV:
Mark Hamill (Luke)
Harrison Ford (Han)
Carrie Fisher (Leia)
William Hootkins (Red 6)
Episode V:
Billy Dee Williams (Lando)
Jonh Ratzenberger (Major Derlin)

British Rebels -
Episode IV:
Alec Guiness (Obi-Wan)
Anthony Daniels (C-3PO)
Peter Mayhew (Chewbacca)
Alex McCrindle (General Dodonna)
Eddie Byrne (General Willard)
Drewe Henley (Red Leader)
Denis Lawson (Wedge)
Garrick Hagon (Biggs)
Jeremy Sinden (Gold 2)
Graham Ashley (Gold Five)
Episode V:
Frank Oz (Yoda)
John Hollis (Lando's Aide)
Christopher Malcolm (Rogue 2)
Ian Liston (Janson)
Episode VI:
Sebastian Shaw (Anakin)
Caroline Blakiston (Mon Mothma)

American Imperials -
Episode IV:
James Earl Jones (Darth Vader - Voice)
Richard LeParmentier (General Motti)

British Imperials -
Episode IV:
Peter Cushing (Tarkin)
Don Henderson (General Tagge)
David Prowse (Darth Vader)
Episode V:
Jeremy Bulloch (Boba Fett)
Kenneth Colley (Admiral Piett)
Julian Glover (General Veers)
Michael Sheard (Admiral Ozzel)
Michael Culver (Captain Needa)
Episode VI:
Ian McDiarmid (Emperor)
Michael Pennington (Moff Jerjerrod)