Aspergers and societal perception in televsion.

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26 Sep 2005, 11:44 pm

I'm a big fan of the Animated Series "Futurama" I think its one of the Best TV shows I have ever seen......

But the Simpsons, with a lot of the same creative people and talent is just awful to me, I've been thinking about this off and on for the last two years, why I would feel so strongly in different directions about two shows that share so much in developent.

I realised after reading on this forum, Aspergers has a lot to do with it. The Simpsons is the nuclear family, in a suburban neigborhood, in a midwest sort of lifestyle. The sort of thing I never understood in my personal life, Futurama though, like the few other shows I like is the relationship betwen people with no connection, Working with Lobsters in your day job, realising your parents really ARE mutants, Being a thousand years older than your great to the 20th grand nephew, but being 150 years younger at the same time, a society where the more pointless rules just don't apply, and with intellegence on a thousand different forms, no constant exept change, the kind of world I'd do ANYTING to live in!

So, topic, Aspergers and societal perception in television



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27 Sep 2005, 12:20 am

Do you mean you think the Simpsons has always been awful? As opposed to just being awful since season 10 or so? (which it has been)


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27 Sep 2005, 12:24 am

AbominableSnoCone wrote:
Do you mean you think the Simpsons has always been awful? As opposed to just being awful since season 10 or so? (which it has been)



I have never liked the Simpsons. I really don't give a damn about, as one cartoonist put them "The piss yellow, piss ugly, ret*d monkey people"

They are not funny to me, I find their interrelations boring and tedious. : /


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27 Sep 2005, 3:03 am

I think Futarama is just a cooler show! although it did take a LOT of ideas from Red Dwarf (mind you, they do admit it)

there more here http://www.ganymede-titan.info/docs/futurama.php



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27 Sep 2005, 9:32 am

tom wrote:
I think Futarama is just a cooler show! although it did take a LOT of ideas from Red Dwarf (mind you, they do admit it)

there more here http://www.ganymede-titan.info/docs/futurama.php



thjey took gags from all sorts of series........... and many many books,



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27 Sep 2005, 2:23 pm

Love ur icon Tak Have u read Jonny the Homicidal maniac
I think I relate to abstrck shows like Futarama, Zim, Monty Python and soforth


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27 Sep 2005, 2:49 pm

Though I appreciate the bizarre, surreal, and satirical, Futurama just doesn't work for me. It just never achieves the comic greatness of the Simpsons. It may just be because the Simpsons manages to be bizarre, surreal, and satirical just by remaining in the real world, while Futurama exploits the cliches of Science Fiction for laughs, and this runs thin after a while.


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27 Sep 2005, 7:41 pm

ajs_line_of_silver wrote:
Love ur icon Tak Have u read Jonny the Homicidal maniac
I think I relate to abstrck shows like Futarama, Zim, Monty Python and soforth



This is my alternate "bad mood" icon, Yes, I own the JTHM and the Squee collection. And the Zim DVD set.

I have Invader Zim personalised plates on my VW..... BUt Invader Tak I LOVED. A character I bonded with right off.........



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27 Sep 2005, 7:44 pm

Thagomizer wrote:
Though I appreciate the bizarre, surreal, and satirical, Futurama just doesn't work for me. It just never achieves the comic greatness of the Simpsons. It may just be because the Simpsons manages to be bizarre, surreal, and satirical just by remaining in the real world, while Futurama exploits the cliches of Science Fiction for laughs, and this runs thin after a while.



Whereas I don't see that about the Simpsons at all. The better jokes in Futurama are intesely intellectual and most of them are completely missed by the viewers.

Fry Holding the Apple of Dischord in the card game NOBODY seemed to have noticed. Quantum physics jokes, Binary and ascii jokes. THe exeubots at Fox never appreciated what they really had.



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28 Sep 2005, 12:21 am

I'm with Thagomizer on this one. However, since I started watching South Park, The Simpsons has seemed like South Park Lite to me. It's not as funny to me as it once was, whereas South Park (and other creations by Parker and Stone) will have me in stitches on the floor.



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28 Sep 2005, 8:18 am

I don't have pay TV, and Futurama didn't last very long on free to air...

But if you never liked the Simpsons, you have no sense of humour whatsoever! That show has something for everyone. Even most people who didn't like the show have found something funny on it. And I like a show that makes fun of eveyday people. And giving an insight into normal lives is quite helpful for people with AS.


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28 Sep 2005, 6:43 pm

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I don't have pay TV, and Futurama didn't last very long on free to air...

But if you never liked the Simpsons, you have no sense of humour whatsoever! That show has something for everyone. Even most people who didn't like the show have found something funny on it. And I like a show that makes fun of eveyday people. And giving an insight into normal lives is quite helpful for people with AS.



I have a very well developed sense of humor, but it didn't have anything for me, so it does not have something for everybody.

Everyday people are a trial and a pain to me, they make no real sense, they are ot funny or entertaining. That was the whole point.

But the blind worship of midwestern nucler family mediocrity and its value system is now the "american way"........

Wonder if Canada is taking people?



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28 Sep 2005, 6:55 pm

I think Futurama will never be regarded even in the same league as the Simpsons, BUT I think Futurama will in the long run leave a better taste in viewer's mouths as it was cut off in its prime, and not allowed to start going downhill, then plummet at an astonishing rate. I agree that in the older episodes it was a lot funnier. Especially the easter egg classic references they seem to hardly do at all any more, if ever.



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28 Sep 2005, 9:25 pm

Tak wrote:

But the blind worship of midwestern nucler family mediocrity and its value system is now the "american way"........

Wonder if Canada is taking people?


Oh you're right , we should have a loud gay "family" from san francisco with one adopted and one artificially inseminated kid in and their "value" system to "worship" and laugh at instead! That would be so much better!

LOL @ the bitterness over a straight CARTOON family being so popular!



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28 Sep 2005, 9:42 pm

I agree that The Simpsons has something to offer for everyone. I could understand why Futurama doesn't have the same kind of massive appeal, as it seems primarily targeted at sci-fi fans. Although I enjoy watching Futurama, I can't say that I get everything, simply because I'm not that into sci-fi.

That said, if you're more into surreality (is that a word?), I guess I could see why you would like Futurama more. But remember that The Simpsons is supposed to be making fun of the way things "normally" are.



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29 Sep 2005, 12:26 am

eamonn wrote:
Tak wrote:

But the blind worship of midwestern nucler family mediocrity and its value system is now the "american way"........

Wonder if Canada is taking people?


Oh you're right , we should have a loud gay "family" from san francisco with one adopted and one artificially inseminated kid in and their "value" system to "worship" and laugh at instead! That would be so much better!

LOL @ the bitterness over a straight CARTOON family being so popular!


You coudn't have said that! You are tolerant! You said so! LOL!! !!

Its nothing to do with bitterness, I just don't find it funny. If I hated the Simpsons for "straigtness" I'd have to hate Futurama too. You really need to figure out why you hate so much.

Besides the whole cast of Futurama is straight. :) So there goes your thory.

The Simpsons is just not funny, "to me" for cultural reasons. The simpsons family unit that does not appeal to me like the sort I like does not appeal to you.


The whole point of this thread is why some shows might appeal to some and others not so much as seen through a filter of aspergers.

You brought up "gay" Mr.Tolerance. Try to stay on topic. ;)

But you won't I'm guessing you will pull every thread off topic to make phobe posts. Bet I'm right? Hmm???



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