Kids shows these days simply suck.

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I was flipping through channels just now and damn, what is with kid shows? Everything is so freaking loud and chaotic. Crappy animation and obnoxious.

There will always be a special place in my heart for cartoons I grew up on. Fraggle Rock, Ghostbusters, Tiny Toon adventures, Rugrats, Pinky and the Brain... All the cartoons were pure gold.

I really hate this Spongebob Squarepants stuff. Really the only good one is Dora the Explorer; that is the only cartoon that isn't irritating. I know we're talking about kid shows here, but you know, kid shows don't HAVE to stink. There isn't this unwritten rule.

The kid movies when I was a kid were infinitely better as well. Parents could actually sit through them.

The world has less taste every year.

I have a doozer and a boober sitting on my computer desk. I miss the fraggles

Dora is a matter of opinion, I understand the educational value but that show irritates me.

I agree. The cartoons are obnoxious, the language is over the top for a kid's show, and many kid's sitcoms have characters who are nasty spoiled brats and constantly backbite and snipe at each other.

AGREED!! ! Oh how I miss the Fraggles!

As for Spongebob, my children are not allowed to watch it. In addition to being painfully annoying and stupid, it teaches poor values. Aside from PBS Kids, we pretty much stick to DVDs for their TV viewing time.

When I was a kid I loved watching 3-2-1 Contact.

I think Camp Lazlo is funny. Pinkie and the Brain was cute to. Ben 10, on the other hand, is a perfect example of what you guys all don't like. The kids are indeed bratty, tease each other through out the show, and compete to defeat some enimy or something. As a kid I used to watch The Littles, My Little Ponies, GI Joe, Looni Tunes, Animaniacs, and Transformers, which we liked. I always hated all versions of Scooby Doo though. What I find most annoying about Scooby Doo is how whitless and stupid they are.

I agree, for the most part. However, if you go back and watch some of the shows that you grew up on and loved so much when you were eight years old, you'll probably wonder what you thought was so great about them, looking back. Hell, I used to love watching cartoons. But, upon looking up most of my old favorites on TV-Links (may it rest in peace), I came to realize that they sucked every bit as much as the shows do now. I'm not saying that TV has or hasn't gotten worse, just that our tastes have changed. Nostalgia clouds our objectivity.

Are you sure it isn't that you have more taste?

I can't really speak for kid's TV (although I think Avatar: The Last Airbender is fantastic, and apparently that's airing on Nickelodeon) but I know that whenever I go back to reread books I loved as a kid, or even as a teenager, they're often painfully bad. What you remember as "quality TV" might be just as awful as the current batch.

Camberwick Green
Trumpton
Ivor the Engine
Along the River Bank

everything went downhill with Bagpus

Some shows were genuinely good in my opinion, such as Doug or Recess, both shows that my parents were able to sit through and thoroughly loved. Even now I'd still watch them for what they were. Looney Tunes was one of my favorites too.

As for shows today, don't really like The Emperor's New School or the Replacements... the Sonic the Hedgehog that's on TV doesn't really interest me either, and he was one of my favorites as a kid. Ultimate Muscle? Double blech blech!! Though, Hannah Montana isn't all too bad.

Personally, I think Dora is the most mind-numbing of the bunch. I was surprised to see you say that it was the one you liked, Apollyon.

I agree with the premise though, I think many older cartoons had more solid and interesting plots. Todays' kids' shows are often just comprised of joke after gag after joke, or else a bunch of useless, boring information posing as education.

Most new kids shows today truly sucks. How do you think Walt Disney would react if he saw all the crap they're putting his name on? Take for instance Brandy & Mr. Whiskers. It's poorly animated, and it's basically just nonsensical babbling combined with crappy jokes.

Because that's the only one that isn't hyperactive visual and audio pandemonium. And at least It's educational.

Not all the cartoons I liked as a kid were pure gold, but as an adult most of them I can actually sit through, even enjoy to this very day. I remember watching Rugrats with my friend's younger siblings, and I actually got some of the jokes that went over my head as a kid. Plus it actually had some kind of values. Just using that as an example.

Plus come on, you had to love GI Joe and Captain Planet's (among other cartoons) public service announcement of the week.

There are some shows I still watch. Anyone besides me remember Pirates of Dark Water? Now there was a show right up my alley.

But anyways, yes, the older shows did have a more solid plot. Now everything is just bizarre slapstick imagery and loud characters/noises. (Not that Looney Toons wasn't, but hey, it was still pretty entertaining as a kid, even if I secretly wished the Coyote would barbecue that stupid roadrunner with a side of Porky the Pig on a stick.)

lots of these toons are the types of toons that parents stare at their watch through(thinking is it over yet?)
i happened to like looney tunes, and i wish the coyote would catch the road runner. he has only done it once.

I grew up in the 70's and most of our cartoons were never meant for kids. The Looney tunes were adult shorts that were being aired for 70's kids. Then we had Scooby Doo, the Flintstones, the Jetsons, the latter two being revamped Honeymooners.

I can't stand Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network and they're the reason we don't have cable. My son goes nuts if he sees that stuff. Mindless entertainment is one issue, but that flashy stuff is another. I really think it has a bad effect on the eyes and mental state.

I did find Super Mario Bros episodes (late 80's) on dvd, that's some inane stuff right there. But my son loves Nintendo-Mario Bros. So, he's alright with it. He really loves PBS too.

You mean the Super Mario Bros. Super Show? I was hooked on that show! I also liked Captain N: The Game Master.

Tim