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27 Apr 2008, 4:45 am

Have any of you seen the movie "Party Monster" with Macaulay Culkin and Seth Green or, better yet, read the book "Disco Bloodbath" (republished as "Party Monster") by James St. James which it was based on? What did you think of it? The characters are obviously oddballs, but do you think any of them might be on the spectrum?

Is anyone personally acquainted with a former Club Kid?


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27 Apr 2008, 6:12 am

i saw the movie a few years back

i tried to buy the book from someone but i never recieved it.

there was a very limited number of them printed (5000 i think) i dont know if more have been printed since

but do you think any of them might be on the spectrum?

i dont have any reason to believe so


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27 Apr 2008, 6:36 am

What is a Club Kid? Does this refer to the Mickey Mouse Club? The Hellfire Club? The Mile-High Club? Which club?



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27 Apr 2008, 6:52 am

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The Club Kids were a group of young clubheads led by Michael Alig and James St. James in the late 1980s and early 1990s. James St. James is the author of Disco Bloodbath, which is his depiction of the events surrounding the Club Kids and Michael Alig's murder of Angel Melendez. This group was famous for their outrageous costumes and extensive drug use -- in particular, ecstasy, ketamine, and heroin, although preferences ranged. Many of them were assigned names and personas by Alig himself.

Michael Alig's fame and influence quickly grew. At one point, he was on the payroll of several clubs owned by Peter Gatien for doing nothing but showing up with his entourage of Club Kids in order to draw more customers to the clubs. When they wanted to add a little variety to their night-life, Michael and the club kids began holding illegal parties in various public places including a donut shop and the New York subway.

At the height of their fame, the Club Kids toured the United States, appearing on several talk shows, such as Geraldo.

The hard core of the Club Kids (at least in the opinion of James St. James) were nerdy highschool outcasts who wanted to create a fantasy world of their own, in which the deliberate flouting of social conventions and a certain amount of infantilism played a part. Among other things, the Club Kids originated the fashion (adopted by teenage girls the world over in the nineties) of wearing pacifiers around their neck. If not Aspies, some of them seem likely candidates for ADD to me.


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27 Apr 2008, 7:03 am

Sounds like a cult of whiny druggy crybabies.

And who was the Micheal Alig that he gave them all names and personas? Couldn't they have come up with their own names and personas?

Touring on talk-shows? Only in America can you derive fame from wanting to be somebody who doesn't want to be anybody. Only in America, I tell you.

*turns away in disgust*



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27 Apr 2008, 9:41 am

slowmutant wrote:
Sounds like a cult of whiny druggy crybabies.

That's a bit harsh. One might as well call the "Haven" forum on WP a bunch of whiny crybabies (some of whom may be druggy for all I know).

What I admire (and envy, to be quite honest) about the Club Kids is that they held onto their oddity and ran with it, creating a lifestyle where they could be themselves, unlike oddballs like me who have spent most of their lives trying to fit in with the "drearies and normals", as the Michael Alig character in the movie calls them.


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27 Apr 2008, 9:54 am

Hmm. This Micheal Alig sounds like he's got a pair. He sounds like the kind of guy who knows who he is and keeps it real. Maybe I was too quick to say what I did. Aside from the clubbing, drugging, and murdering, I woudn't mind hanging him with him and his crew. Always looking for someone to push my limits & blow my mind.

But not in an excissively immoral or unlawful way.



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27 Apr 2008, 10:04 am

I saw a few minutes of this movie.


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27 Apr 2008, 11:09 am

It's one of the most interesting movies I've ever seen.
I love the cameo played by Marilyn Manson.

I don't think these guys were aspies, but they do seem like it.

This movie has a lot of great one liners:

"And it's better than a ten inch cock!"



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27 Apr 2008, 12:28 pm

A 10" cock may not be as good as it sounds. You'd pass out every time you got an erection. I'm assuming this is a homosexual reference of some kind. Ten inches could be very painful if the rectum is too small to accomodate a dick that size. Some serious rectal trauma could be involved. Ouch! 8O



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02 May 2008, 12:51 am

love this movie. I need to buy the DVD, or at least see the documentary. I want to read the book as well. I wish I were a club kid!



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02 May 2008, 1:12 am

I saw it on HBO, Macaulay Culkin played his role really well. That guy Michael Alig was a total scumbag psychopath. I don't imagine that he will be released anytime soon.



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02 May 2008, 7:29 am

Macaulay Culkin is creepy to begin with.

I don't why, he just is. Some child stars do not age well.



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02 May 2008, 8:21 am

slowmutant wrote:
Macaulay Culkin is creepy to begin with.

I don't why, he just is. Some child stars do not age well.

you can say that again


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