what do you think of Obito's philosophy and solution to this

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07 Feb 2013, 5:11 pm

Obito from naruto wants to put the world in an illusion where everything is peaceful and no worries and no misery. he didnt want suicide, rather instead of running away from this world he wants to change it by projecting an illusion to the moon that will cast every human being into an illusion that's controlled by madara. now would you, seeing all the problems in this world, view obito as a hero with a revolutionary goal or a radical? a dream world, where everyone is happy and there are no losers. what do you think?



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07 Feb 2013, 6:10 pm

With that everyone but those two lose. Everyone will be how they want and act how they want. It's not a perfect world it's a zombie world.



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07 Feb 2013, 10:48 pm

What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".



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07 Feb 2013, 11:16 pm

It's not really even a villain move. They do not want to control people or rule over them...just make every one the same. Less villain just "the world is so mean to me" he is not just running away from the world he hates he is also trying to make there's live in his dream world. I get Obito is meant to be the "Dark Naruto" but come on. Half of Obitos history does not follow con.



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08 Feb 2013, 5:03 pm

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What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".


by terrible, are you referring to the endless wars caused by the selfish governments, the uchiha clan massacre, hyuuga incident, kidnapping of kushina? those seem more diabolical if you ask me.



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08 Feb 2013, 8:23 pm

salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".


by terrible, are you referring to the endless wars caused by the selfish governments, the uchiha clan massacre, hyuuga incident, kidnapping of kushina? those seem more diabolical if you ask me.
At least the people fighting want to fight. They want to show what the Beleive in is worth losing their life for. Look what is happening in green lanterns 3rd army.



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09 Feb 2013, 11:09 pm

salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".


by terrible, are you referring to the endless wars caused by the selfish governments, the uchiha clan massacre, hyuuga incident, kidnapping of kushina? those seem more diabolical if you ask me.


And that makes forcing an entire world to live in a lie ok?

Ever heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right" before?



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10 Feb 2013, 3:03 am

Tensu wrote:
salad wrote:
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What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".


by terrible, are you referring to the endless wars caused by the selfish governments, the uchiha clan massacre, hyuuga incident, kidnapping of kushina? those seem more diabolical if you ask me.


And that makes forcing an entire world to live in a lie ok?

Ever heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right" before?


Haven't you heard of the lesser of two evils?



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10 Feb 2013, 9:45 am

Salad, what would you think if your god gave his place to someone filled with hate such as Obito? It's the same thing.



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10 Feb 2013, 11:02 am

salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".


by terrible, are you referring to the endless wars caused by the selfish governments, the uchiha clan massacre, hyuuga incident, kidnapping of kushina? those seem more diabolical if you ask me.


And that makes forcing an entire world to live in a lie ok?

Ever heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right" before?


Haven't you heard of the lesser of two evils?


Which is less evil? A world where you can learn from your mistakes, where you can like something and be your own person....or where hitler has the power to change you how he wants?



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10 Feb 2013, 6:13 pm

Darkone101 wrote:
salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".


by terrible, are you referring to the endless wars caused by the selfish governments, the uchiha clan massacre, hyuuga incident, kidnapping of kushina? those seem more diabolical if you ask me.


And that makes forcing an entire world to live in a lie ok?

Ever heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right" before?


Haven't you heard of the lesser of two evils?


Which is less evil? A world where you can learn from your mistakes, where you can like something and be your own person....or where hitler has the power to change you how he wants?


Obitos dream land is technically a utopia where everyone is happy, no wars, no lies, no winners and losers, and no injustice.



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10 Feb 2013, 7:41 pm

salad wrote:
Darkone101 wrote:
salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".


by terrible, are you referring to the endless wars caused by the selfish governments, the uchiha clan massacre, hyuuga incident, kidnapping of kushina? those seem more diabolical if you ask me.


And that makes forcing an entire world to live in a lie ok?

Ever heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right" before?


Haven't you heard of the lesser of two evils?


Which is less evil? A world where you can learn from your mistakes, where you can like something and be your own person....or where hitler has the power to change you how he wants?


Obitos dream land is technically a utopia where everyone is happy, no wars, no lies, no winners and losers, and no injustice.

Yep. Just the utopia HE wants. In Narutos utopia the he is the greatest person ever. In Sasuke utopia he and his family fight evil ninjas proving the Uchiha are good. Orochimaru dreams of living for ever and the world letting him experiment on what ever and who ever he wants. Jiraiya wants a world where girls are nude/whereing skippy clothes. Tsunade would want a world with gambling Palors on every block. Who's world is the right utopia?



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10 Feb 2013, 11:00 pm

salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
salad wrote:
Tensu wrote:
What a diabolical act of villainy. I could never call anyone who would do such a terrible thing a "hero".


by terrible, are you referring to the endless wars caused by the selfish governments, the uchiha clan massacre, hyuuga incident, kidnapping of kushina? those seem more diabolical if you ask me.


And that makes forcing an entire world to live in a lie ok?

Ever heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right" before?


Haven't you heard of the lesser of two evils?


I have, and allowing people to live their own lives, knowing that some of them will do bad things is the lesser evil compared to taking all meaning out of life.

I thought Myra was a nasty villain, but at least she had the decency to stay out of everyone's heads.