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16 Apr 2008, 12:25 pm

hello everybody.....im 21, ive been around wp for mayb 3 weeks...trying to find out as much as i can abt AS, coz when i stumbled onto some info on the web, i felt i could relate to it in a LOT of ways!!

i stay in the middle east...have never heard of AS before this, but now the symptons jus seem to read my own profile, im pretty worried coz i really dont know what to do.....

these are some of the things that realy seem to fit in-

-i cant socialize much, i can talk to people to an extent, but tend to pull my guards up after a level and there are hardly any close friends i have made.....there mayb people who are friendly to me in the beginning, but somewhere in b/w i dont know what happens..the friendship never goes any more further than that.....

-i have been called insensitive to the core....unemotional....coz im almost 'faceless'... a lot of times people cant see any expressions on my face...they can never make out if im happy/sad etc.....my friend tells me im not at all transparent and kinda unapproachable...i look like im in my own world...on my own trip!

-i am told i speak in a robotic voice.....n wht ive read is aspie's tend to speak in a monotone, no matter how much i try...i still can never modulate my voice in the rite way

-i have major expression issues...even with my own friends...i find it difficult to jus go upto them n tel them...this is what im feeling today, they think im egoistic coz of this lack of communication frm my end. when i do tend to say something or put my point forward, i come across as blunt...or not having the tact to speak in diff situations

-i even tend to be pretty ineffective in conversations, whether formal or informal, im confident that theres my speech is perfectly fine but im still not able to get a message across...ppl dont tend to take me seriously....and i sound unclear abt wht exactly am saying....

-i dont like to b called a boring person, but i tend to hv a v meek response to social outings, or even to normally hanging out wid friends, they think im 'disinterested' in making plans, or dont enjoy their company....i dont mind but yeah i kinda like to be alone

-people have always called me 'a lil weird' in school n college, but i never took it so seriously, but now its kinda growing on me coz im hearing it a lot more...and they say it on my face!

-i hate office politics....whenever theres an issue, i hate to b involved, not that im scared, but i just feel its so mundane, and useless, nd feel sick about how the world is...and wish if ppl could just be peaceful....all this wouldnt happen

-...there may b serious situations that occur....but i realize the seriousness of the issue very late..mayb when the whole thing is even solved....this is another reason im called insensitive....nothing tends to strike me at the right time!!

theres a lot more....but i jus wanna know if most of you feel any of the above...and tell me if i really have AS! i know many of you have a very positive take on it....its not that i think theres smthin wrong in being an aspie...but mayb this is the reason why ive indirectly hurt ppl close to me in a lot of ways, i never meant to....but ive always disappointed my friends n everyone else, i dont think i can ever make place in anyones mind...i feel miserable coz im weird!

i wanna see a doctor....but can anyone tell me what kind of specialist i should see, ive checked out a few major hospitals, but nobody seems to be have any experience dealing with such issues....is this so weird??

...any advice would be really appreciated...thank u for reading....cheers....



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16 Apr 2008, 1:10 pm

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i stay in the middle east...
i wanna see a doctor....but can anyone tell me what kind of specialist i should see, ive checked out a few major hospitals, but nobody seems to be have any experience dealing with such issues....is this so weird??

...any advice would be really appreciated...thank u for reading....cheers....


hi youthful lady of wisdom, welcome to WP

you would seem an acceptable candidate at first sight

just curious as to where in the middle east - no too much turmoil i hope - but your location may well present you with additional trouble in finding the
right professional: psychologist, preferably psychiatrist

you need a doctor who really knows something about the mind,
but who is also up to date - it is very easy to get misdiagnosed,
as you may have read - even by many of these psychists

i got my suspicion confirmed by a paediatrician who was well aware,
and not only of autism (she has a severely autistic daughter), but also
of asperger's, and more importantly, of late-in-life as-diagnosis

she then suggested a specific psychiatrist

my road towards recent dx (see my blog) then took a surprising
strangely accellerated turn to the highway through hospitalization
instead of the intended private practice psychiatrist

but the result was the same

maybe check at a local primary school, if they can put you in touch with the person they contact in case a pupil of theirs presents with learning difficulties -
you could always pretend you are looking for someone else

get into a private conversation with this person and find out whether (s)he
is at least of autism in general, and asperger's specifically

good luck with your search


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16 Apr 2008, 1:43 pm

Welcome sofia108! :)


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16 Apr 2008, 2:43 pm

Sofia

First: welcome.

It’s hard to do the transition from “the weirdest of us” to “not one of us.” It may be odd for you to discover that your difficulties were not the result of your constant failure – which is still something you at least have responsibility for – but were the result of your having a different model of brain – which places the responsibility and control into the hands of others.

I know that sounded strange. What I mean is, for me, at the very worst time of my life, I still always thought I was just a tiny distance away from getting everything “right” and finally blending in. I worked hard for that, and had a great deal of success passing as “eccentric.” But it was so strenuous, so painful, and so disappointing when those I love couldn’t understand why I often made them feel disdained and disregarded.

When I discovered my own Aspergian ethnicity, I felt many good things. I was glad, finally, to have an explanation for so many aspects of myself that I had come to consider self-betrayals. And it was good to tie in with the coping techniques and personal accounts of my brother Aspies. However, I have also had to deal with the realization that “normalcy” was not just out of my reach. It was a false goal that I could never have achieved. It was not possible for my kind of human to be that kind of human. So, that goal was no longer in my control. In fact, there were a lot of things that were no longer in my control.

So, I can understand your distress when you face the possibility of such a change of perspective. There may even be a bit of a period of quite appropriate mourning. On the other hand, it is good to have a tribe. Especially one that actually needs you.

You can, if you prefer, simply back away and forget you saw what you saw that made you suspect Aspergers. Or you can approach it like a medical emergency, as many do. Or you can search out what confirmation you feel you need and then move forward resolutely with your true nature finally clear to you.

So, finally, I welcome you again. Let us know what’s on your mind.


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16 Apr 2008, 6:17 pm

Nice to meet you, sofia108. :) 8)


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16 Apr 2008, 6:25 pm

Sofia; Welcome. I'm pretty new at this myself. Just joined WP today.I very much understand when you speak about being accused of lacking tact or sensitivity, and coming off as blunt when you assert yourself. The emotions of others can be so confusing, so mysterious. I have inadvertently stepped on so many toes. Sometimes its difficult to know if the criticism is fair, or is just part of the other person's negativity. You ask about getting an objective determination of your aspie status. There is a test you can take online, if that option appeals to you, which provides a A.Q.(Asperger's quotient). Try typing into google: Asperger's quotient test. If you do take this test please consider coming back here to discuss your reactions to the results. Ross



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16 Apr 2008, 9:54 pm

sofia108 wrote:
hello everybody.....im 21, ive been around wp for mayb 3 weeks...trying to find out as much as i can abt AS, coz when i stumbled onto some info on the web, i felt i could relate to it in a LOT of ways!!

i stay in the middle east...have never heard of AS before this, but now the symptons jus seem to read my own profile, im pretty worried coz i really dont know what to do.....

these are some of the things that realy seem to fit in-

-i cant socialize much, i can talk to people to an extent, but tend to pull my guards up after a level and there are hardly any close friends i have made.....there mayb people who are friendly to me in the beginning, but somewhere in b/w i dont know what happens..the friendship never goes any more further than that.....

-i have been called insensitive to the core....unemotional....coz im almost 'faceless'... a lot of times people cant see any expressions on my face...they can never make out if im happy/sad etc.....my friend tells me im not at all transparent and kinda unapproachable...i look like im in my own world...on my own trip!

-i am told i speak in a robotic voice.....n wht ive read is aspie's tend to speak in a monotone, no matter how much i try...i still can never modulate my voice in the rite way

-i have major expression issues...even with my own friends...i find it difficult to jus go upto them n tel them...this is what im feeling today, they think im egoistic coz of this lack of communication frm my end. when i do tend to say something or put my point forward, i come across as blunt...or not having the tact to speak in diff situations

-i even tend to be pretty ineffective in conversations, whether formal or informal, im confident that theres my speech is perfectly fine but im still not able to get a message across...ppl dont tend to take me seriously....and i sound unclear abt wht exactly am saying....

-i dont like to b called a boring person, but i tend to hv a v meek response to social outings, or even to normally hanging out wid friends, they think im 'disinterested' in making plans, or dont enjoy their company....i dont mind but yeah i kinda like to be alone

-people have always called me 'a lil weird' in school n college, but i never took it so seriously, but now its kinda growing on me coz im hearing it a lot more...and they say it on my face!

-i hate office politics....whenever theres an issue, i hate to b involved, not that im scared, but i just feel its so mundane, and useless, nd feel sick about how the world is...and wish if ppl could just be peaceful....all this wouldnt happen

-...there may b serious situations that occur....but i realize the seriousness of the issue very late..mayb when the whole thing is even solved....this is another reason im called insensitive....nothing tends to strike me at the right time!!

theres a lot more....but i jus wanna know if most of you feel any of the above...and tell me if i really have AS! i know many of you have a very positive take on it....its not that i think theres smthin wrong in being an aspie...but mayb this is the reason why ive indirectly hurt ppl close to me in a lot of ways, i never meant to....but ive always disappointed my friends n everyone else, i dont think i can ever make place in anyones mind...i feel miserable coz im weird!

i wanna see a doctor....but can anyone tell me what kind of specialist i should see, ive checked out a few major hospitals, but nobody seems to be have any experience dealing with such issues....is this so weird??

...any advice would be really appreciated...thank u for reading....cheers....


Hi. I'm new to the site as well. I was diagnosed years ago but I actually just discovered I have it. Myabe my mom told me but I forgot or something. I remember somehow coming across it on Wikipedia and I asked my mom if she thought it sounded like me. She said I have it.

That really sounds just about exactly like me. I also find it very difficult to socialize except for around my intermediate family. I'm just constantly nervous. When I do get the courage to talk it rarely comes out the way I mean it to. I don't really have any friends at all because of this, just some acquaintances.

I've been described emotionless too. People are always asking why I never smile. It really annoys me and they also ask why I never laugh. I actually do laugh but it's this weird sort of inside laugh and I think people probably think I'm having a heart-attack or something. It's kind of embarrassing.

I always really just want to say stuff but I can't seem to. Sometimes I have something really funny to say. Then eventually I just blurt it out. When I do that everyone is ussually moved on to another topic and everyone just looks at me.

Everything you just said pretty much applies to me so there's no real point in saying the same things anymore.



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Sofia

First: welcome.

It’s hard to do the transition from “the weirdest of us” to “not one of us.” It may be odd for you to discover that your difficulties were not the result of your constant failure – which is still something you at least have responsibility for – but were the result of your having a different model of brain – which places the responsibility and control into the hands of others.

I know that sounded strange. What I mean is, for me, at the very worst time of my life, I still always thought I was just a tiny distance away from getting everything “right” and finally blending in. I worked hard for that, and had a great deal of success passing as “eccentric.” But it was so strenuous, so painful, and so disappointing when those I love couldn’t understand why I often made them feel disdained and disregarded.

When I discovered my own Aspergian ethnicity, I felt many good things. I was glad, finally, to have an explanation for so many aspects of myself that I had come to consider self-betrayals. And it was good to tie in with the coping techniques and personal accounts of my brother Aspies.

So, I can understand your distress when you face the possibility of such a change of perspective. There may even be a bit of a period of quite appropriate mourning. On the other hand, it is good to have a tribe. Especially one that actually needs you.



thankyou gitchel....you're right...when i first discovered all this i was in shock...one that kinda makes you mute and you're not able to say anything....but in some ways now it does put my guilt and anxiety to rest.....

..and its great to be part of WP....its strange but feels nice to finally be able to connect to so many people who actually understand....you know what i mean....suddenly this virtual world of AS seems so much better than the real one....



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17 Apr 2008, 2:41 am

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Sofia; Welcome. I'm pretty new at this myself. Just joined WP today.I very much understand when you speak about being accused of lacking tact or sensitivity, and coming off as blunt when you assert yourself. The emotions of others can be so confusing, so mysterious. I have inadvertently stepped on so many toes. Sometimes its difficult to know if the criticism is fair, or is just part of the other person's negativity. You ask about getting an objective determination of your aspie status. There is a test you can take online, if that option appeals to you, which provides a A.Q.(Asperger's quotient). Try typing into google: Asperger's quotient test. If you do take this test please consider coming back here to discuss your reactions to the results. Ross


hi Ross....nice to meet you...its funny how we find things that are easy for others to understand so strange ourselves....i'm curious about one bit though....does the fact of knowing that you are an aspie make you stop trying any more....like i feel i'll always have 'im an aspie..i cant understnd things' at the back of my head and that would make me such a pessimist...that i may stop trying to understand people's problems, emotions...etc

by the way thanks for the test info.... i did take the test......i scored 34....and was not at all surprised...coz there were 2 other tests i had taken i had taken(dont remember the name) and that put me on a 'very likely to receive an AS diagnosis' bracket....so all these online tests do tend to confirm my doubts....



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17 Apr 2008, 2:44 am

thank you everybody....for the replies....and the insight...it really helps...im enjoying WP already!



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17 Apr 2008, 8:38 am

Sofia; I would encourage you to keep trying to understand other people's emotions. The alternative doesn't seem very satisfactory. I believe I am more able to understand people's emotions than when I was younger, so there is the possibility of improvement. When this understanding breaks down, it can be distressing, but NTs have to cope with this same problem, just not nearly as much as we do. About the test: I took the A.Q. Test yesterday, score 38. Disturbing, to me, to have my suspicions confirmed. But it does explain so much! Ross



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18 Apr 2008, 8:14 pm

I think you're my twin sister, Sofia.
You can change a little bit and you can learn methods of coping and you can stop berating yourself for being different. I'm relaxed now about my problems with recognizing people because it is not because I am lazy or self-centered. Now that I know that it's inborn, I say to people I meet the first time, please, the next time we meet, don't be afraid to reintroduce yourself again if I look bewildered. I'm missing the five brain cells that everyone else uses for instant recognition, so I would be grateful if you would help me out. Now people are glad to help me out now that they know I'm not a snob.



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Hey lelia....you know when I am reading people's posts on WP, I feel relaxed because there are so many like me and I feel good about being part of a universal Aspergian community. But the moment I am back with the real physical world, I feel out of place, one reason maybe because I haven't shared anything about my discoveries with anybody as yet. (and am pretty much worried about their reactions) The feeling of feeling miserable comes from being looked at as an oddity in a place everybody else seems to be very normal. But anywho, I guess over time I will learn to digest things better while at the moment I take this whole thing as my own niche or 'personal space' that I feel so comfy in when am lonely...

Ross, you're right, there is definitely room for improvement and I will try not to take my aspergian nature for granted.
I know its disturbing to be exposed to these revelations about ourselves but it I guess it woudl only become easier to relax our minds if we say that its inherent and we have no control over it, and we really don't, do we?And its much easier for us aspies to take such things in our stride than we would expect the NTs to do....at least I think so!