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12 Feb 2015, 9:45 pm

I've been here before, years ago, and am now back with many of the same communication difficulties but hopefully a different perspective after a few years of personal growth and other nonsense. I'm 46, formally diagnosed recently, though I have 'known for years' since my son was diagnosed five years ago.

My formal dx has come as a shock to my system, for some reason the finality of it all, the 'aha moments' that say 'this is why you had these problems, this is why these people behave badly to you, this is why you perceive things differently' have been very painful for me. I am finding it hard to communicate, and I am also finding that people tend to respond to my opinions violently to the point that I am verbally abused and left confused and wanting to fold in on myself. Folding in on myself is unhealthy for me and I need some assistance from others, so I am posting here in the hopes that this will be the refuge that helps me learn how to cope with other people.

I'm going to link to this thread in my signature, because I would like to disclaim that I am not someone who intends to be mean, hurtful, snide, condescending, or rude to other people. I do not believe I am better than other people. These are some of the things people say about me. If you feel that I have behaved poorly or posted something that is upsetting to you, please contact me directly and talk to me about it. I seem to have problems getting my ideas across. I can't learn where I am going wrong when people react to me violently, and I would like to be able to identify that so I can make sure 'how I come across' isn't hurting anybody, and I can clarify my position.

Thanks for reading! :)



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13 Feb 2015, 4:02 am

Hey ominous, welcome back. :sunny:


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13 Feb 2015, 5:50 am

Thanks :) (Still haven't figured out where I can create a signature. I'm sure I knew that at some point.)



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14 Feb 2015, 5:40 pm

Welcome back to Wrong Planet!


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14 Feb 2015, 6:05 pm

Thanks. :)



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15 Feb 2015, 12:19 am

ominous wrote:
I've been here before, years ago, and am now back with many of the same communication difficulties but hopefully a different perspective after a few years of personal growth and other nonsense. I'm 46, formally diagnosed recently, though I have 'known for years' since my son was diagnosed five years ago.

My formal dx has come as a shock to my system, for some reason the finality of it all, the 'aha moments' that say 'this is why you had these problems, this is why these people behave badly to you, this is why you perceive things differently' have been very painful for me. I am finding it hard to communicate, and I am also finding that people tend to respond to my opinions violently to the point that I am verbally abused and left confused and wanting to fold in on myself. Folding in on myself is unhealthy for me and I need some assistance from others, so I am posting here in the hopes that this will be the refuge that helps me learn how to cope with other people.

I'm going to link to this thread in my signature, because I would like to disclaim that I am not someone who intends to be mean, hurtful, snide, condescending, or rude to other people. I do not believe I am better than other people. These are some of the things people say about me. If you feel that I have behaved poorly or posted something that is upsetting to you, please contact me directly and talk to me about it. I seem to have problems getting my ideas across. I can't learn where I am going wrong when people react to me violently, and I would like to be able to identify that so I can make sure 'how I come across' isn't hurting anybody, and I can clarify my position.

Thanks for reading! :)


I have the exact same problem! Particularly on internet forums. I say things that come back to bite me. This, despite not trying to be mean or condescending at all. People just take my words that way. Clearly I am not a refined wordsmith and I don't understand how my words affect others. You're not alone with this problem.



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15 Feb 2015, 12:31 am

I'm sorry to read you have the same problems, mistersprinkles, but glad I'm not the only person. It doesn't seem to be with just NTs that I have this problem, either, often other autistics react violently and abusive to me out the gate and I just don't understand it at all.

I don't seem to have problems putting words together for research papers or essays for university. I am just coming to realise I have actually got pervasive communication problems. At 46 years of age. I used to just be able to wave that off as 'some people are just jerks' or some other haughty response where I would shut myself off from people, but I'm trying to look at it and fix it and it's painful. I have no idea how to people and I have spent my whole life not knowing that I have no idea how to people.

It's really upsetting. :(



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15 Feb 2015, 1:54 am

I have this problem











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15 Feb 2015, 2:15 am

lucygp wrote:
I have this problem.



I think it's part of 'qualitative impairments in communication' and I have no bleeding idea how to fix it. I am sometimes concerned this will be an issue for me my whole life. I mean, I'm 46. I'm trying. It's all I can do. I guess I should be happy I have some self awareness about this. I can try to see what's going on and attempt to fix it.



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15 Feb 2015, 4:48 am

I am also back on after a year or so of trying (and failing) to lead a 'normal' life. I struggle with communication that is anything more than idle chit chat and people have said to me in the past "you think you are better than me" which I don't and I'm not quite sure what I said to give that impression...



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15 Feb 2015, 10:23 pm

ominous wrote:
Thanks :) (Still haven't figured out where I can create a signature. I'm sure I knew that at some point.)


The option to edit your signature is a bit broken at the moment, while the site is going through some changes.

And hello. :)



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15 Feb 2015, 10:35 pm

i learned to be passable at small talk after age 50, so it's not too late. good on you for not giving up.



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15 Feb 2015, 10:40 pm

I can pull off 3-5 minutes of small talk then I freeze up. Better than I used to be with about 10 seconds :) hehe.



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15 Feb 2015, 11:15 pm

Hi all and thanks again. Thanks Felicity, I noticed that in another thread that others were having issues as well as the site is going through some changes.

I can do small talk, but I don't like it. Too much of it makes me edgy and I have to get away from it. Fortunately it's often 'small' and doesn't seem to last very long unless you're in groups of people, then it becomes quite tiring.



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16 Feb 2015, 1:01 am

ominous wrote:
Hi all and thanks again. Thanks Felicity, I noticed that in another thread that others were having issues as well as the site is going through some changes.

I can do small talk, but I don't like it. Too much of it makes me edgy and I have to get away from it. Fortunately it's often 'small' and doesn't seem to last very long unless you're in groups of people, then it becomes quite tiring.


I just don't understand why we have these barriers to conversation and the need to have nonsensical inconsequential conversations with people.

"How about this cold weather we're having"

"Oh yes isn't it terrible? My son almost got frostbit last night"

"I know. I have to put the big puffy jacket on my dog so he won't freeze"

Why don't we just cut to the chase and be honest with each other? A more productive conversation would go:

"Did you get caught laundering money for your uncle's company yet? Your uncle still smoking crack by the way? How about your nephew is he out of jail yet?"

But we can't ask those things, even if we know them, because they are "sensitive topics". I just don't get it.



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16 Feb 2015, 1:27 am

I don't get it either, and I don't particularly like it. It is what it is, though. Every once in a while I am pleasantly surprised by interactions in the world, too. I went to get my hair cut recently, which is something I dread because I have to deal with the chatter and the stress of having my hair messed with (and possibly cut off). I put it off as long as I could but then just walked into a salon in the shopping centre and asked if someone could trim my hair. The stylist was great! She was able to discuss topics of importance to our community, she wasn't vapid at all, and I came out of there surprised that I didn't have to 'bear' the hairstylist and actually enjoyed myself. It happens out there sometimes!