Is Anyone Here 100% Or Close To 100% Autistic?

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Many high-IQ people don’t achieve their potential because they don’t strive as hard as many average-IQ people.

Some things come easier for high-IQ people, so they might not be used to expending very much effort.

I have considerable natural ability, but I haven’t achieved much. It’s because things came too easily for me, and I’ve never had much ambition.

It must be said that I am only making a general statement vis-a-vis high-IQ people. Some strive very hard.

Nothing much has ever come easy for me.

There are also people who could get by only because they had enough of an IQ, and accommodating parents who tutored them all the time, who happened to have enough money to help them get by, people who got all F's and D's and maybe Cs, but given second chances by teachers so they could get a passing grade just a few points added on... things like that. Missing most classes from hiding in bushes having a shutdown/frozen situation, having to get detention daily from being late or missing classes, etc.
People from (or still in) third world countries with traditional families who stigmatize any mental condition, let alone autism, will even pass any kind of mental issue off as 'all in the person's head'

my best friend works as a doctor, she worked in mental institutions, and told me that basically a patient of hers with multiple personalities, her family thought she just made it up and she was trying to pretend to be normal for years, and barely getting by till it got to be too much.

My first brother (the one after me) cannot even tie his shoelaces, he usually has socks barely half on, goes out the door like that as getting all that together is too much for him.
He has split his head open many times just from lack of focus in the moment, loses everything (we both are constantly having to get new cards made etc), cannot walk a few steps without pausing and having to do his little 'circle' thingy to try and remind himself where he is, etc. His case is bad enough where unlike me he is not allowed to drive. I drove, but how many car accidents? more than normal. The only way it improved is my Xh (who i feel sorry for now) constantly coaching me, then he spent money out of his pocket to get me taught for a long time (teacher was really good too) and made me practice with him, etc. (I still had a couple of car accidents after that, but not as bad where the car needed to be replaced like before).

And my brother despite everything, he is a genius by Iq standards and in a good university. Yet he has had times where his mind tuned out to the point he would end up in Ottawa from the train, as he didn't get off at his stop and didn't know what to do, as an example. That's why all my siblings live together, to help each other, as mainly my little sister is the one who has no issues and makes things work daily for everyone despite having a steady job, attending courses and having lots of social things. She can do everything, so she ends up having to look after everyone.

Iq tells little, the knowledge you get from books helps people with high Iq seem even more capable than they are. Like how EzraS pointed out that maybe one of the posters here got a lot of info from online stuff, reading can make one seem and think they have more knowledge and experience than they would have had if, say they had other impairments (like my kid) where they cannot focus moment to moment at all, among other things. So that latter case will definitely be defined as needing way more support, but that doesn't mean someone like my brother, who has had so many bad things happen that my parents never took him to a psychologist for until he basically took a cricket bat and began going ballistic beating me with it (from frustrations adding up, meltdown) that they did. And even then, he did it TWICE before they did.

My dad would just be delusional and wilfully ignorant, would say about everything, 'ppl have full stomachs, so their brains make up mental conditions to keep them occupied.'

because my dad is a genius and can do everything without problem, like friends, sports, learning easily, he thinks everyone is like that, and they just have low self esteem so they don't access it.

He changed now though.



you don't know what else the person lacks or has to support or hinder them so IQ cannot tell you that much.

Personally I wouldn't dismiss crystallised intelligence and say g is all about fluid intelligence . For sure a deficit of either one is going to cause you problems .

The difficulty for me personally is practical ,real life situations . A minor example I wear braces to hold my trousers up . I've had them for several months but struggle to wear them without them being tangled .

I don't think many people get that some of us have decidedly spiky profiles. Failure to meet an expected standard can be seen as bolshiness/obstructiveness.

An example from my last psych hospital stay in the early 80s. I was sent to do a cookery course in the OT department. I got kicked off it because I was slow peeling and chopping potatoes. I was seen as being uncooperative . There was no concept at all that a person could be highly intelligent , and yet have genuine difficulty with such things .

Spiky profiles is a good description.


When I'm confined to my own little world with occasionally ppl coming to help,
I feel that I would do fine in the real world, that Ive matured, brain has developed beyond the writing part.
It's like 'delusions of grandiosity" but it's 'delusions of average capabilities'

Then I have a brush with 'the real world' and realize it is just as nasty and awful and intimidating and overwhelming.... as it always was.

That i suck at it just as much as ever, even if situations have changed.

The first study only says that "it is plausible" that social factors have an effect on the development of executive function, it doesn't provide evidence to show a strong causal relationship. While it's far from a ridiculous theory you have provided poor evidence for it. The second study is irrelevant to your point, it only provides an alternative means by which an individual can experience visual processing disorders, it provides no evidence for or against visual spatial deficits being part of ASD disorders, and the paper doesn't mention ASD at all. I haven't had time to read the others yet.

The first study is interesting. Both my EF and social skills are far from good . Whether the latter impacts on the former I wouldn't like to say.

Just over a decade ago I did cognitive tests that were free for a time limited period . They were mentioned by the owner of the schizophrenia .com website .

I scored average or above for everything but EF . That was below average by about 1.5- 2SD .

"Autopsies of autistic, Asperger’s, and normal brains by Margaret Bauman and her colleagues reveal that in both autism and Asperger’s there is immature development of the cerebellum, amygdala, and hippocampus. Small cells are packed tightly in these immature parts of the brain, signifying true immature development, not damage or atrophy. Brains from people with autism are more immature in hippocampus development than are Asperger’s brains, which may help explain the cognition problems we see in low-functioning autism. The situation is reversed for the amygdala, a part of the brain that processes emotion. Here, the Asperger’s brain is often more abnormal than the autistic brain. Could the more normal hippocampus preserve the cognitive function in Asperger’s, with the less normal amygdala causing the social problems?" https://www.dana.org/article/the-world- ... -syndrome/

The brain anatomical and structural abnormalities cause the cognitive deficits in AS. For instance, the abnormalities at the ACC, amygdala and hippocampal regions in AS are likely the main contributor of their difficulty with modulating of emotional reactivity (Semrud-Clikeman, Fine, Bledsoe, & Zhu, 2013). Moreover, the localized cerebral abnormalities in AS discharge adaptive social behavior (Catani et al., 2008). In addition, volumetric exes in the Asperger group at the inferior parietal lobule is linked to synesthesia (Welchew et al., 2005) and dysfunction within frontostriatal and cerebellar motor circuits also reflect chaotic movement (Nayate, Bradshaw, Rinehart, 2005). Furthermore, association between abnormalities and size of some particles in the brain has been observed. For instance, measures of entropy and uniformity have been reported to be related to the volume of the caudate nuclei.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5691167/


My son and I share the same chromosomal abnormality in a gene sequence (the purpose of which has not been identified yet) that is most likely a factor in the development of autism (According to his geneticist)
His other issues and the severity of them is attributable to the rare (metabolic) genetic disease he has, for which I am a carrier (symptomatic issues like poor muscle tone and hypoglycemia in me), and the GERD problems and hypotonia (correlated with the genetic disease mentioned), the severity of those also affect his absorption of nutrients, the zero drinking/ eating (except irregularly and not much, and very specific items only) is compounded by autism but not a direct result--but those all add up to the other issues in brain thus epilepsy--hypotonia compounded (vicious cycle), GERD and reflux constantly affecting sphincter (another vicious cycle).

The other son has not undergone extensive genetic testing, just a small one to confirm that he had the same genetic disease that I am a carrier for and which his brother has--he does have it--but they didn't look into the chromosomal abnormality - I should have asked. Unfortunately the results of genetic testing came back years late (test had to be re-done in fact!) as there was a strike in the USA- (which delayed results--canadian labs didn't do to that extent according to our Sick Kids genetics team) at the time, otherwise I wouldn't have had the second kid, for fear of passing on the condition.

You should watch videos of people with “classic autism.”

It’s a very different animal from the Aspergian form of autism.

Autism is of neurological origin....no matter the severity of it.

It might or might not actually be a “disorder.”