Hi there, I'm new here and pretty anxious
jimmy m wrote:
Hi PoundlessMind_32, Welcome to Wrong Planet.
You wrote, "I can't look people in the eyes for more than a one second."
I also have this trait. I do not make direct Eye to Eye contact but always look a little off to one side.
I actually figured out a solution to this problem by preventing people from looking into my eyes by wearing a special type of one way glasses. I wrote in another thread a few days ago about these glasses.
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Not_Crazy_Just_Not_You, Welcome to Wrong Planet.
You wrote, "I have been called selfish, arrogant, condescending, narcissistic, an A-hole, and probably a bunch of other things behind my back."
Let me try and explain this, at least from my viewpoint. I do not make eye to eye contact. When I lock at a person I do not look directly into their eyes but rather a little off to one side. Most (neurotypicals) NTs will look directly into the eyes of the person they are talking with. But if you are like me, they will see someone looking off to one side and they will immediately conclude:
This person is a liar, evil, false, stay away from him.
I actually tested this theory a few years ago. I purchased a pair of special one way glasses and wore them in town. These are the same type of glasses that traffic cops used when driving. It prevents people from looking directly into their eyes and making a quick judgement of how the policeman would react. So I went about town wearing these special sunglasses. What happened was unreal. Total strangers would come up to me and begin conversations. This had never happened to me before, and I was amazed.
I have poor eyesight so I wear prescription glasses. So in my case when I went to order a pair of prescription sunglasses, I just asked my optometrist and he ordered me a pair.
Doing a quick scan on the internet, I believe they are referred to as polarized mirrored sunglasses.
Polarizing and mirror coats are independent things, you can have one without the other. Polarizing blocks all horizontal light preventing dazzling effects (which is reflected light from things like the water surface or shiny metal) and mirror coating reduces the light transmission into the lens even further than the tinting of the lens on its own would (making the image you see darker).
When I wear this type of sunglasses, someone on the outside might try to look through the glasses and cannot see my eyes. All they see is a mirror refletion. But from the inside, I can see quite clearly. There is some lowering of light that enters my eyes but most people normally have their eyelids closed a little and I just open them a little wider automatically to let in a little more light. That is why I can wear this type of sunglasses indoors.
The other benefit is that when I wear the glasses outdoors, it eliminates any glare. So outdoors my vision is much better also.
It improves my vision and at the same time eliminates people from knowing that I am not looking them directly into their eyes. And the strange result is when I wear these polarized sunglasses I enter the world of NTs.
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You wrote, "Small talk is my nemesis."
Yes same here. I am direct and to the point. It is actually a benefit.
You wrote, "For a long time, I thought I was alone with my struggles or my struggles weren't valid. My parents always said to me that I have to suck it up and push through which I've come to realize did more damage than good. The never looked into my experiences, and now I am already in my thirties and I find myself shying away from people more and more."
In reality, you are not alone and there are many people like you, but they live in the corners of society. I had gained a few friends in the 76 years I have lived on Earth and I had found a couple good friend, lifetime friend. They had characteristics just like me. So if you can search for them and open your eyes you may actually find them. They will be somewhat like yourself.
You wrote, "I can't look people in the eyes for more than a one second."
I also have this trait. I do not make direct Eye to Eye contact but always look a little off to one side.
I actually figured out a solution to this problem by preventing people from looking into my eyes by wearing a special type of one way glasses. I wrote in another thread a few days ago about these glasses.
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Not_Crazy_Just_Not_You, Welcome to Wrong Planet.
You wrote, "I have been called selfish, arrogant, condescending, narcissistic, an A-hole, and probably a bunch of other things behind my back."
Let me try and explain this, at least from my viewpoint. I do not make eye to eye contact. When I lock at a person I do not look directly into their eyes but rather a little off to one side. Most (neurotypicals) NTs will look directly into the eyes of the person they are talking with. But if you are like me, they will see someone looking off to one side and they will immediately conclude:
This person is a liar, evil, false, stay away from him.
I actually tested this theory a few years ago. I purchased a pair of special one way glasses and wore them in town. These are the same type of glasses that traffic cops used when driving. It prevents people from looking directly into their eyes and making a quick judgement of how the policeman would react. So I went about town wearing these special sunglasses. What happened was unreal. Total strangers would come up to me and begin conversations. This had never happened to me before, and I was amazed.
I have poor eyesight so I wear prescription glasses. So in my case when I went to order a pair of prescription sunglasses, I just asked my optometrist and he ordered me a pair.
Doing a quick scan on the internet, I believe they are referred to as polarized mirrored sunglasses.
Polarizing and mirror coats are independent things, you can have one without the other. Polarizing blocks all horizontal light preventing dazzling effects (which is reflected light from things like the water surface or shiny metal) and mirror coating reduces the light transmission into the lens even further than the tinting of the lens on its own would (making the image you see darker).
When I wear this type of sunglasses, someone on the outside might try to look through the glasses and cannot see my eyes. All they see is a mirror refletion. But from the inside, I can see quite clearly. There is some lowering of light that enters my eyes but most people normally have their eyelids closed a little and I just open them a little wider automatically to let in a little more light. That is why I can wear this type of sunglasses indoors.
The other benefit is that when I wear the glasses outdoors, it eliminates any glare. So outdoors my vision is much better also.
It improves my vision and at the same time eliminates people from knowing that I am not looking them directly into their eyes. And the strange result is when I wear these polarized sunglasses I enter the world of NTs.
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You wrote, "Small talk is my nemesis."
Yes same here. I am direct and to the point. It is actually a benefit.
You wrote, "For a long time, I thought I was alone with my struggles or my struggles weren't valid. My parents always said to me that I have to suck it up and push through which I've come to realize did more damage than good. The never looked into my experiences, and now I am already in my thirties and I find myself shying away from people more and more."
In reality, you are not alone and there are many people like you, but they live in the corners of society. I had gained a few friends in the 76 years I have lived on Earth and I had found a couple good friend, lifetime friend. They had characteristics just like me. So if you can search for them and open your eyes you may actually find them. They will be somewhat like yourself.
Hi,
I would love to find them, but just thinking about talking to strangers make me feel sick. I know that is also part of social anxiety, but what can I do? Do you know what could help? I mean, talking someone online is not so big deal, but it is still a strugle.
I loved mirrored sunnies when I lived in the city. As long as you keep your head still you can thoroughly check out everyone around you. I loved seeing double takes on the other side of the street (a 6 foot 6 punk rocker generates that) and I got to study body language without appearing to stare. People do obviously connect with me more easily and I found it easier to approach strangers.
BoundlessMind_32 wrote:
Hi,
I would love to find them, but just thinking about talking to strangers make me feel sick. I know that is also part of social anxiety, but what can I do? Do you know what could help? I mean, talking someone online is not so big deal, but it is still a strugle.
I would love to find them, but just thinking about talking to strangers make me feel sick. I know that is also part of social anxiety, but what can I do? Do you know what could help? I mean, talking someone online is not so big deal, but it is still a strugle.
I would probably say, "Believe in yourself and your unique characteristics.
What, "You didn't know you had unique characteristics?"
"Well you do."
Most people have +s and -s. Things that they are good at and things they are not good at.
But when it comes to us, We have ++s and --s and some of us are off the charts with +++++s and -----s.
Learn what your +s are and use them to overcome your -s.
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Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."
jimmy m wrote:
BoundlessMind_32 wrote:
Hi,
I would love to find them, but just thinking about talking to strangers make me feel sick. I know that is also part of social anxiety, but what can I do? Do you know what could help? I mean, talking someone online is not so big deal, but it is still a strugle.
I would love to find them, but just thinking about talking to strangers make me feel sick. I know that is also part of social anxiety, but what can I do? Do you know what could help? I mean, talking someone online is not so big deal, but it is still a strugle.
I would probably say, "Believe in yourself and your unique characteristics.
What, "You didn't know you had unique characteristics?"
"Well you do."
Most people have +s and -s. Things that they are good at and things they are not good at.
But when it comes to us, We have ++s and --s and some of us are off the charts with +++++s and -----s.
Learn what your +s are and use them to overcome your -s.
It is not like I want to make friends. I would like to learn how to speak to strangers without being red like tomato or without stuttering. I don't know what is worse...
BoundlessMind_32 wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
BoundlessMind_32 wrote:
Hi,
I would love to find them, but just thinking about talking to strangers make me feel sick. I know that is also part of social anxiety, but what can I do? Do you know what could help? I mean, talking someone online is not so big deal, but it is still a strugle.
I would love to find them, but just thinking about talking to strangers make me feel sick. I know that is also part of social anxiety, but what can I do? Do you know what could help? I mean, talking someone online is not so big deal, but it is still a strugle.
I would probably say, "Believe in yourself and your unique characteristics.
What, "You didn't know you had unique characteristics?"
"Well you do."
Most people have +s and -s. Things that they are good at and things they are not good at.
But when it comes to us, We have ++s and --s and some of us are off the charts with +++++s and -----s.
Learn what your +s are and use them to overcome your -s.
It is not like I want to make friends. I would like to learn how to speak to strangers without being red like tomato or without stuttering. I don't know what is worse...
Hope that comes around for you soon....used to blush everytime a stranger or store clerk spoke to me, especially if it was unexpected . Did nt want to ask questions cause was fearful of reactions and replys ....And took many years to come into my own....After awhile , I figured very few people , i met were eager to interact with strangers , So i learned
what I call Ice breaker phrases.. things you could say to someone that did not require a response . Favourite one was to compliment the perdon you have to deal with, on a slightly more personal level.Comments about the weather as a lead in.? Compliment a pin they are wearing or a piece of jewlery.. Haircut or a tatoo. , A Hat, whatever , Ask do they like working there? Practice this ,.....
After a number of these slightly more successgul interactions ? hopefully? I hot more automatic at doing it .And new people became just a tiny bit more acting like a humans . I sm older now and do not blush very easy anymore .
But squeezing those ice breaker phrases in all my life , has made me feel better about being around people,when I have to go out .
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BoundlessMind_32 wrote:
It is not like I want to make friends. I would like to learn how to speak to strangers without being red like tomato or without stuttering. I don't know what is worse...
That brings up an interesting point - stuttering.
Words can be expressed two ways. The spoken words are a function of the left side of the brain. But the words when they are sung are performed by the right side of the human skull.
I saw a program on Television a couple years ago. It was called America's Got Talent. There was a 17 year old girl who could barely speak without stuttering. But then she sang a song and it was perfect.
So if you have a problem with stuttering, try singing the words.
_________________
Author of Practical Preparations for a Coronavirus Pandemic.
A very unique plan. As Dr. Paul Thompson wrote, "This is the very best paper on the virus I have ever seen."