Is Anyone Here 100% Or Close To 100% Autistic?
aquafelix wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
I am superior because I match the criteria for being superior.
That's not convincing as long you are the only person providing any input into the criteria for what makes an exceptional human, which so far has been exclusively the stuff you say you are great at. For a person who claims to have superior logic abilities you keep repeating a very basic error in inductive reasoning called confirmation bias - the tendency to interpret any new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories.
So long as you define:
Superiority = all the stuff I'm personally great at and none of the stuff I'm rubbish at, then there will always be a confirmation bias error.
So, unless you are willing to be more accountable in your definition of exceptionality, then I don't trust your logic and am getting bored with the cyclical egocentric discussion.
I've started another thread called "What makes an exceptional human?"
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=382635&p=8394868#p8394868
You view point is most welcome in the discussion.
Interesting, this is the first time I have ever been accused of a confirmation bias. You'd have a point lf you could find enough things that I am bad at that would cripple My claim. Since I have already listed being exceptional in all of the areas that matter the most, this is unlikely. I don't see being bad at drawing, singing & swimming as sufficient enough evidence to unsubstantiate My claim. So you'd have to come up with a pretty essential trait to greatness that I am somehow subpar in. And even then, unless I am ABYSMAL in that area, you'd have to list at least a few more. The probability of this is extremely low, but lf you could somehow pull lt off, then I'd be forced to concede a lower ranking.
Seems like an interesting thread. I'll check lt out when I get the chance.
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
@EzraS Post 1|
@Firemonkey Exactly. Motor speed should not have an effect on IQ. Nice one.
@Firemonkey Exactly. Motor speed should not have an effect on IQ. Nice one.
All I know is in one regard I'm considerably intellectually superior to you, but in another regard I'm intellectually inferior to about 95-99% of people here. That's having a spiky profile for you.
That is true & I am not offended in the least. That's great for you. It must be nice to be able to think quickly. My mind has Windows XP speed. We all have our strengths & weaknesses. That's what makes life interesting.
The score you provided and the score I got indicates that you are at least 2SD less intelligent than me . I have no doubt that for others here there's an even bigger gap between them and you.
It's time to knock this silliness on its head . You're probably not even the brightest person living on your street.
A minute ago you agreed that the results are inaccurate. Or is that only when lt's convenient for you? You agreed that the Wechsler test is inaccurate & said that the other one is not highly rated. My IQ cannot be accurately gauged lf what the test is really gauging is motor speed, a weak point of Mine. I answerred at least 90% correctly, but I took 30 minutes to do so. That should tell you I'm pretty damned smart & pretty damned slow. When I find a better test, I'll get a more accurate IQ. The people on My street are: an old man who calls the cops on Me every Halloween, even though that's the only party I ever have; a family that constantly screams really loudly about the stupidest things; a super paranoid lady who makes everyone feel uncomfortable; a lady who has parties every day where she blasts the same song over & over again inconsiderately, but yells at Me impolitely lf someone blocks her car for a minute; & a mean old lady who destroyed My belongings, then tried to make amends & suddenly began inexplicably giving Me dirty looks all of the time. If you don't think I'm smarter than these buffoons, then lt is quite possible that you are the least intelligent person on your street.
I said the test you first mentioned was a particularly bad test. The 3 tests I posted are much better than that ,for those who don't have a spiky profile . That Wechsler test may or may not be inaccurate. If inaccurate ,ie inflating our scores, it would apply to both of us .
As for motor speed . Mine isn't so good either .
Test Name: Digit Symbol Substitution
Basic Protocol?: Yes
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, visual short term memory
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/DigSymbCoding/DSC.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2.9
Description of Test: Using a symbol-number key shown on screen, match as many symbols and
numbers as possible in 90 seconds
Test Name: Trail-Making Test A
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/Trails/TrailsA.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2
Description of Test: Connect a series of numbers in ascending order.
Test Name: Trail-Making Test B
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, task-switching
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/Trails/TrailsB.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2
Description of Test: Connect a series of letters and numbers in ascending order, alternating
between letters and numbers.
Test Name: Choice Reaction Time
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, cognitive inhibition, cognitive control
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/ChoiceRT/ChoiceRT.html
Psychometrics: Good
Time (minutes): 2.5
Description of Test: Indicate the direction of an arrow that is a different color from the rest.
I saw the tests that you posted. I haven't had the chance to try them out yet. You should at least wait untill I take a test that we all agree is accurate before moving in for the kill. If you truly want to shoot My claim down, assuming that's even possible, you're going to need logic, not emotions. I don't speak NT language, remember, I'm nearly 100% autistic. So let's wait untill there's some evidence that is valid in everyone's mind first. Then you may attack.
kraftiekortie wrote:
The OP’s sole basis for believing he’s a “human 2.0” is the “fact” that he primarily uses the “neocortex”; whereas regular people apparently don’t. He, allegedly, only thinks “logically,” like he is a Vulcan.
He hasn’t presented us with any tangible deeds which would imbue him with “greatness.” Like finding a cure for cancer, creating an original and creative work of art, designing a levee which would prevent floods that other levees were unable to prevent, providing a permanent home for a homeless person. Things of that ilk.
He hasn’t presented us with any tangible deeds which would imbue him with “greatness.” Like finding a cure for cancer, creating an original and creative work of art, designing a levee which would prevent floods that other levees were unable to prevent, providing a permanent home for a homeless person. Things of that ilk.
Yes, I suppose lt is quite easy to claim something when you refuse to look at the contrary evidence. In other words: read My other replies before you say something unfounded.
Close, but lt's not because I use My neocortex. Many people who aren't great do. It's about how much I use lt. 1% neocortex usage does not equal human 2.0. It must be at least 50%, which is quite rare. So no, I'm not saying that NT's never use the neocortex. Some don't, while the rest use lt so little that lt's barely worth counting. But for the sake of transparency, every mammal who doesn't have a condition preventing lt, uses their neocortex to some degree. We're all neurologically capable of greatness, unlike lesser evolved life forms. However, only a very small percentage take advantage of this resource enough to qualify for greatness. That's just facts. I don't think anybody disagrees with the assessment that most people are awful. There is a reason for that: neurotypicality.
I hate to make blanket statements, but the probability here is very high. Most NT's are terrible people. It doesn't take a mathematician to realize that since most people are terrible & most people are neurotypical, most NT's are thereby terrible. Some are just bad, others decent, some may even be good. Neurotypicals are not born evil. Studies show that all humans are innately good from birth. It is society that turns people evil & NT's are significantly more likely than autists to be manipulated & corrupted. That is the major disparity. Neurotypicals versus autists is another false dichotomy. We're often too' busy fighting each other to realize that neither side is the enemy. We're being played by the Dark Triad. Divide & conquer. These are the people who are truly awful. Yes, I am like a Vulcan.
I have listed tangible deeds. You have seen fit to skim through posts in a mad rush to reply with yet another illegitimately founded criticism. I cannot discover something that has already been discoverred. I have created a plethora of original & creative works of art, another item that you have neglected to read. I live on a palisade, so floods aren't prevalent. I don't even have a permanent home for Myself. Think of Aladdin. He was a street rat, an impoverished, homeless, social outcast. He is a nice enough guy, but what power did he have to spread prosperity? None. Meeting the Princess, finding a magic genie, finding a monkey companion & a rug, facing an evil vizier, finding two poor, hungry kids who nearly got attacked. These are all chance events, none of which were in his power to create. The Sultan on the other hand can make any changes he desires, good or bad. Was Aladdin's generosity somehow unsubstantiated by the fact that he couldn't provide homes to the homeless, due to being homeless himself? I hope lt is obvious to you that this is not the case. I can only do what is within My circle of influence. It being small is inconsequential to My greatness. Put Me in charge & I will create any improvement you like. I'll provide mansions to the homeless, eliminate all disorders & prevent significant damage from natural disasters. Seriously.
firemonkey wrote:
^ How does anyone know for certain they primarily use the "neocortex" ?!
The neocortex is self-aware. The only way to know is to use lt. Though science does a decent job at making the determination. A neurotypical might claim to be logical, but will never deny being emotional. It really isn't all that hard to distinguish. The only complication is in determining the specific level (percentage on the ND spectrum).
EzraS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
The OP’s sole basis for believing he’s a “human 2.0” is the “fact” that he primarily uses the “neocortex”; whereas regular people apparently don’t. He, allegedly, only thinks “logically,” like he is a Vulcan.
He hasn’t presented us with any tangible deeds which would imbue him with “greatness.” Like finding a cure for cancer, creating an original and creative work of art, designing a levee which would prevent floods that other levees were unable to prevent, providing a permanent home for a homeless person. Things of that ilk.
He hasn’t presented us with any tangible deeds which would imbue him with “greatness.” Like finding a cure for cancer, creating an original and creative work of art, designing a levee which would prevent floods that other levees were unable to prevent, providing a permanent home for a homeless person. Things of that ilk.
There's also that he says his greatness stems entirely from his autism. Yet he has listed numerous attributes of his greatness that are not autism related. But WP has had others drop by who basically did the same thing. Put a bunch of stuff together that is not related to autism and then add all that up to conclude that it is all autism related and therefore autism makes them superior.
The reason why they do this I think is so that they can view themselves as basically being a separate being from the rest of society ie "NTs". They can only maintain that illusion by deciding that every last aspect of themselves is non-NT related. In other words they are 100% pure non-NT. Which makes them 100% separate and therefore 100% superior.
The Vulcan analogy fits because I have seen a lot of aspies go on about NTs as if they were Vulcans vs Humans.
I have to hand lt to you: for being completely incorrect & misguided, you are quite determined & have even come up with some decent explanations to support your views.
Autism is not a catch-all explanation for every attribute. Some traits can seem neurotypical but still be autistic. Is someone who plays the piano well definitely autistic? No. Can they be? Absolutely. Autism does however make lt highly probable that an individual will excel at a given task. As I've said, autism does not explain every trait I have. I have reason to believe that I have the evolutionary beginning of something greater. Still, I am definitely autistic & that definitely makes Me great. I can't speak for everyone, their claims should be treated on individual bases.
What a curious thing to say, when you have never seen anyone else categorize autism into percentages. It seems like an attempt to prove yourself right by comparing Me to other people whose claims are unsubstantiated by neurotypical standards, thereby providing a motivation for Me to make My claim. Clever, but ultimately dishonest.
kraftiekortie wrote:
Now...if the guy could join us who are mere Human 1.0, and debate things on the merits—maybe he can find a place on WP, so he can alleviate his loneliness.
Feelings of superiority often emanate from feelings of inferiority.
Feelings of superiority often emanate from feelings of inferiority.
If you mean the merits of being human 1.0, I do acknowledge merit there. I'm not saying we need to whipe out all neurotypicals so the autistic master race can take over. It is not My place to make that call. That's up to evolution & Yahweh. If they wanted that, lt probably would have happened by now. Neurotypicals can be valuable in the right context, a context where they are not predominant. NT's are great followers. Autists are great leaders. Someone else has pointed this out. They said that without NT's, there would only be leaders (mostly) with noone to lead. It's a bit hyperbolic. In reality, autists would likely sort out a hierarchy. I do think that a world of only autists could work, but like I said, I'm not trying to get rid of neurotypicals nor do I support that idea. One pretty unexpendable merit of NT's is motor speed. Not all autists are as slow as Me, but lt's a fact that logical thought is slower. Given a proper hierarchy fix, neurotypicals can do a lot of good. But NT's are not meant to lead themselves & autists are not meant to follow NT's. Neither camp can do any good as we're not in our native habitats. The best way to work together is proper delegation, where autists lead in their preferred fields & neurotypicals work in their preferred fields. That way neurotypicals will have a purpose to their direction & autists will have freedom & peace of mind for improvement.
Often, but not always. Even lf the probability is 99%, lt is possible for Me to be the 1%. Probability is not the same as possibility. I have no feelings of inferiority, so nothing can develop from there.
EzraS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
The person would have to give himself a neurological exam. An fMRI.
Maybe Ruth Nass was able to determine that He primarily uses His neocortex from asking Him some questions. It's too bad she didn't delve further. she could have written a book about Him.
Or maybe the OP got the idea from reading science fiction.
You may be incorrect, but at least you have a decent sense of humor. I got a chuckle out of that.
Your_Boy wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
@EzraS Post 1|
@Firemonkey Exactly. Motor speed should not have an effect on IQ. Nice one.
@Firemonkey Exactly. Motor speed should not have an effect on IQ. Nice one.
All I know is in one regard I'm considerably intellectually superior to you, but in another regard I'm intellectually inferior to about 95-99% of people here. That's having a spiky profile for you.
That is true & I am not offended in the least. That's great for you. It must be nice to be able to think quickly. My mind has Windows XP speed. We all have our strengths & weaknesses. That's what makes life interesting.
The score you provided and the score I got indicates that you are at least 2SD less intelligent than me . I have no doubt that for others here there's an even bigger gap between them and you.
It's time to knock this silliness on its head . You're probably not even the brightest person living on your street.
A minute ago you agreed that the results are inaccurate. Or is that only when lt's convenient for you? You agreed that the Wechsler test is inaccurate & said that the other one is not highly rated. My IQ cannot be accurately gauged lf what the test is really gauging is motor speed, a weak point of Mine. I answerred at least 90% correctly, but I took 30 minutes to do so. That should tell you I'm pretty damned smart & pretty damned slow. When I find a better test, I'll get a more accurate IQ. The people on My street are: an old man who calls the cops on Me every Halloween, even though that's the only party I ever have; a family that constantly screams really loudly about the stupidest things; a super paranoid lady who makes everyone feel uncomfortable; a lady who has parties every day where she blasts the same song over & over again inconsiderately, but yells at Me impolitely lf someone blocks her car for a minute; & a mean old lady who destroyed My belongings, then tried to make amends & suddenly began inexplicably giving Me dirty looks all of the time. If you don't think I'm smarter than these buffoons, then lt is quite possible that you are the least intelligent person on your street.
I said the test you first mentioned was a particularly bad test. The 3 tests I posted are much better than that ,for those who don't have a spiky profile . That Wechsler test may or may not be inaccurate. If inaccurate ,ie inflating our scores, it would apply to both of us .
As for motor speed . Mine isn't so good either .
Test Name: Digit Symbol Substitution
Basic Protocol?: Yes
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, visual short term memory
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/DigSymbCoding/DSC.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2.9
Description of Test: Using a symbol-number key shown on screen, match as many symbols and
numbers as possible in 90 seconds
Test Name: Trail-Making Test A
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/Trails/TrailsA.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2
Description of Test: Connect a series of numbers in ascending order.
Test Name: Trail-Making Test B
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, task-switching
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/Trails/TrailsB.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2
Description of Test: Connect a series of letters and numbers in ascending order, alternating
between letters and numbers.
Test Name: Choice Reaction Time
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, cognitive inhibition, cognitive control
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/ChoiceRT/ChoiceRT.html
Psychometrics: Good
Time (minutes): 2.5
Description of Test: Indicate the direction of an arrow that is a different color from the rest.
I saw the tests that you posted. I haven't had the chance to try them out yet. You should at least wait untill I take a test that we all agree is accurate before moving in for the kill. If you truly want to shoot My claim down, assuming that's even possible, you're going to need logic, not emotions. I don't speak NT language, remember, I'm nearly 100% autistic. So let's wait untill there's some evidence that is valid in everyone's mind first. Then you may attack.
It seems to me you illogically put down anything that disputes your claim of being the smartest person on the planet as being due to emotions . There's a complete lack of insight as to how what you are claiming is in fact total bunkum . You see 'attack' while truly intelligent people would see an attempt to steer you away from faulty thinking .
As for your claims of being 100% autistic; that's something you keep saying without offering anything to support that claim . It's very much a case of "I've said it,so you must all believe me" .
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
@EzraS Post 1|
@Firemonkey Exactly. Motor speed should not have an effect on IQ. Nice one.
@Firemonkey Exactly. Motor speed should not have an effect on IQ. Nice one.
All I know is in one regard I'm considerably intellectually superior to you, but in another regard I'm intellectually inferior to about 95-99% of people here. That's having a spiky profile for you.
That is true & I am not offended in the least. That's great for you. It must be nice to be able to think quickly. My mind has Windows XP speed. We all have our strengths & weaknesses. That's what makes life interesting.
The score you provided and the score I got indicates that you are at least 2SD less intelligent than me . I have no doubt that for others here there's an even bigger gap between them and you.
It's time to knock this silliness on its head . You're probably not even the brightest person living on your street.
A minute ago you agreed that the results are inaccurate. Or is that only when lt's convenient for you? You agreed that the Wechsler test is inaccurate & said that the other one is not highly rated. My IQ cannot be accurately gauged lf what the test is really gauging is motor speed, a weak point of Mine. I answerred at least 90% correctly, but I took 30 minutes to do so. That should tell you I'm pretty damned smart & pretty damned slow. When I find a better test, I'll get a more accurate IQ. The people on My street are: an old man who calls the cops on Me every Halloween, even though that's the only party I ever have; a family that constantly screams really loudly about the stupidest things; a super paranoid lady who makes everyone feel uncomfortable; a lady who has parties every day where she blasts the same song over & over again inconsiderately, but yells at Me impolitely lf someone blocks her car for a minute; & a mean old lady who destroyed My belongings, then tried to make amends & suddenly began inexplicably giving Me dirty looks all of the time. If you don't think I'm smarter than these buffoons, then lt is quite possible that you are the least intelligent person on your street.
I said the test you first mentioned was a particularly bad test. The 3 tests I posted are much better than that ,for those who don't have a spiky profile . That Wechsler test may or may not be inaccurate. If inaccurate ,ie inflating our scores, it would apply to both of us .
As for motor speed . Mine isn't so good either .
Test Name: Digit Symbol Substitution
Basic Protocol?: Yes
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, visual short term memory
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/DigSymbCoding/DSC.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2.9
Description of Test: Using a symbol-number key shown on screen, match as many symbols and
numbers as possible in 90 seconds
Test Name: Trail-Making Test A
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/Trails/TrailsA.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2
Description of Test: Connect a series of numbers in ascending order.
Test Name: Trail-Making Test B
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, task-switching
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/Trails/TrailsB.html
Psychometrics: Excellent
Time (minutes): 2
Description of Test: Connect a series of letters and numbers in ascending order, alternating
between letters and numbers.
Test Name: Choice Reaction Time
Mobile Version Available?: Yes
Primary Domains: processing speed, cognitive inhibition, cognitive control
Demo Link: http://www.testmybrain.org/tests/ChoiceRT/ChoiceRT.html
Psychometrics: Good
Time (minutes): 2.5
Description of Test: Indicate the direction of an arrow that is a different color from the rest.
I saw the tests that you posted. I haven't had the chance to try them out yet. You should at least wait untill I take a test that we all agree is accurate before moving in for the kill. If you truly want to shoot My claim down, assuming that's even possible, you're going to need logic, not emotions. I don't speak NT language, remember, I'm nearly 100% autistic. So let's wait untill there's some evidence that is valid in everyone's mind first. Then you may attack.
It seems to me you illogically put down anything that disputes your claim of being the smartest person on the planet as being due to emotions . There's a complete lack of insight as to how what you are claiming is in fact total bunkum . You see 'attack' while truly intelligent people would see an attempt to steer you away from faulty thinking .
As for your claims of being 100% autistic; that's something you keep saying without offering anything to support that claim . It's very much a case of "I've said it,so you must all believe me" .
Let's face facts here. This stopped being a matter of disagreement a long time ago. Now I'm getting pity & subtle insults, emotional reactions. I've been completely polite & reasonable throughout, I even looked for the positive side & gave out some compliments. The only reason this isn't a cold war is because I'm not a belligerent. "There is a complete lack of insight as to how what you are claiming is in fact total bunkum.". I'm guessing that looked better in your head. 'Attack', is a bit of an exaggeration, but there is a very clear offensive. We're like two sports teams. You have a very clear You-versus-us paradigm when there is no need for lt to be that way. The fact that days later literally EVERYONE is still senselessly arguing against a moot point when this isn't a debate topic goes to show this. I can't say I didn't see lt coming, but lt didn't occur that lt would last this long. How many people actually read the post from top to bottom & tried to help versus people who skimmed, saw something they don't like & decided to argue about lt? I've still yet to receive an answer as to why this is so important to you. You're not losing anything by My claim & you can't gain anything by somehow being right. The expression, 'Choose your battles.', really comes into play here. If you want to keep going down this road, I won't stop you. But you should know that lt is entirely pointless.
I've pretty much already proved lt. My mind's operating system runs nearly exclusively on logic. I rely almost completely on My neocortex. Without a brain scan, that's the best I can do. Though I'm not sure what the point of debating lt is. Does anyone here deny that I am autistic? If you already accept the fact that I am autistic, what difference does the percentage make? If you said you were 100% neurotypical, I wouldn't drop everything & go on some crazy quest to inauthenticate the claim. Why would I have any reason to doubt that right off the bat? Sure, lf we talked for awhile & I noticed some clearly autistic traits, alright, I might question lt. But you guys debate this as though I insulted your mothers. I don't see how the percentage of My autism is a cause for alarm or even relevant to the topic. Yes, lt's in the post title, but really has nothing to do with the question. I know why I'm debating. My integrity is being challenged & I'm defending lt. I'd have some peace of mind lf everyone realized that everything I've said is true & we could move on. I don't understand why any of you are debating. What is the cause for doubt? What is the relevance? What is the purpose of all of the emotions? What is there to gain? What is at stake? Everyone has jumped on this bandwagon, but noone knows why or what the bandwagon really represents.
This is all impeding on your ability to debate properly. How can one debate without a real motivation? There's a tinge of logic there but lt's lost in a sea of unrealized emotions & socially ritualistic behavior. I can describe what's happening using logic, but without limbicortical thinking, I cannot understand any of lt. You're all compromising integrity & peace for social bonding. Why? Are any of you ever going to hang out? I don't know about you, but lf I were to compromise My integrity, I'd want to gain something, not just a brief, positive social image. That has no value. You neurotypicals are strange. You say I am disorderly for only trusting people who are trustworthy. Apparently what I should be doing is going around pretending to be someone else every time the tide is flowing in a clear direction, whether or not I agree with lt, all in the name of pleasing some people who I'll probably never see again nor will ever return the favor & only lasting a brevity. Am I the only one noticing this? When the topic was relatively young, everyone was civil, because that's how the tide was flowing. Then the tide changed when the Fire Nation attacked (a couple of people who decided to take a more hostile approach for whatever reason). Now everyone is more or less taking on this subtle but minorly hostile philosophy. Okay, you made your trade. Now what?
Your_Boy wrote:
Yes, I suppose lt is quite easy to claim something when you refuse to look at the contrary evidence. In other words: read My other replies before you say something unfounded.
Close, but lt's not because I use My neocortex. Many people who aren't great do. It's about how much I use lt. 1% neocortex usage does not equal human 2.0. It must be at least 50%, which is quite rare. So no, I'm not saying that NT's never use the neocortex. Some don't, while the rest use lt so little that lt's barely worth counting. But for the sake of transparency, every mammal who doesn't have a condition preventing lt, uses their neocortex to some degree. We're all neurologically capable of greatness, unlike lesser evolved life forms. However, only a very small percentage take advantage of this resource enough to qualify for greatness. That's just facts. I don't think anybody disagrees with the assessment that most people are awful. There is a reason for that: neurotypicality.
I hate to make blanket statements, but the probability here is very high. Most NT's are terrible people. It doesn't take a mathematician to realize that since most people are terrible & most people are neurotypical, most NT's are thereby terrible. Some are just bad, others decent, some may even be good. Neurotypicals are not born evil. Studies show that all humans are innately good from birth. It is society that turns people evil & NT's are significantly more likely than autists to be manipulated & corrupted. That is the major disparity. Neurotypicals versus autists is another false dichotomy. We're often too' busy fighting each other to realize that neither side is the enemy. We're being played by the Dark Triad. Divide & conquer. These are the people who are truly awful. Yes, I am like a Vulcan.
I have listed tangible deeds. You have seen fit to skim through posts in a mad rush to reply with yet another illegitimately founded criticism. I cannot discover something that has already been discoverred. I have created a plethora of original & creative works of art, another item that you have neglected to read. I live on a palisade, so floods aren't prevalent. I don't even have a permanent home for Myself. Think of Aladdin. He was a street rat, an impoverished, homeless, social outcast. He is a nice enough guy, but what power did he have to spread prosperity? None. Meeting the Princess, finding a magic genie, finding a monkey companion & a rug, facing an evil vizier, finding two poor, hungry kids who nearly got attacked. These are all chance events, none of which were in his power to create. The Sultan on the other hand can make any changes he desires, good or bad. Was Aladdin's generosity somehow unsubstantiated by the fact that he couldn't provide homes to the homeless, due to being homeless himself? I hope lt is obvious to you that this is not the case. I can only do what is within My circle of influence. It being small is inconsequential to My greatness. Put Me in charge & I will create any improvement you like. I'll provide mansions to the homeless, eliminate all disorders & prevent significant damage from natural disasters. Seriously.
I have to hand lt to you: for being completely incorrect & misguided, you are quite determined & have even come up with some decent explanations to support your views.
Autism is not a catch-all explanation for every attribute. Some traits can seem neurotypical but still be autistic. Is someone who plays the piano well definitely autistic? No. Can they be? Absolutely. Autism does however make lt highly probable that an individual will excel at a given task. As I've said, autism does not explain every trait I have. I have reason to believe that I have the evolutionary beginning of something greater. Still, I am definitely autistic & that definitely makes Me great. I can't speak for everyone, their claims should be treated on individual bases.
What a curious thing to say, when you have never seen anyone else categorize autism into percentages. It seems like an attempt to prove yourself right by comparing Me to other people whose claims are unsubstantiated by neurotypical standards, thereby providing a motivation for Me to make My claim. Clever, but ultimately dishonest.
If you mean the merits of being human 1.0, I do acknowledge merit there. I'm not saying we need to whipe out all neurotypicals so the autistic master race can take over. It is not My place to make that call. That's up to evolution & Yahweh. If they wanted that, lt probably would have happened by now. Neurotypicals can be valuable in the right context, a context where they are not predominant. NT's are great followers. Autists are great leaders. Someone else has pointed this out. They said that without NT's, there would only be leaders (mostly) with noone to lead. It's a bit hyperbolic. In reality, autists would likely sort out a hierarchy. I do think that a world of only autists could work, but like I said, I'm not trying to get rid of neurotypicals nor do I support that idea. One pretty unexpendable merit of NT's is motor speed. Not all autists are as slow as Me, but lt's a fact that logical thought is slower. Given a proper hierarchy fix, neurotypicals can do a lot of good. But NT's are not meant to lead themselves & autists are not meant to follow NT's. Neither camp can do any good as we're not in our native habitats. The best way to work together is proper delegation, where autists lead in their preferred fields & neurotypicals work in their preferred fields. That way neurotypicals will have a purpose to their direction & autists will have freedom & peace of mind for improvement.
Often, but not always. Even lf the probability is 99%, lt is possible for Me to be the 1%. Probability is not the same as possibility. I have no feelings of inferiority, so nothing can develop from there.
If you mean the merits of being human 1.0, I do acknowledge merit there. I'm not saying we need to whipe out all neurotypicals so the autistic master race can take over. It is not My place to make that call. That's up to evolution & Yahweh. If they wanted that, lt probably would have happened by now. Neurotypicals can be valuable in the right context, a context where they are not predominant. NT's are great followers. Autists are great leaders. Someone else has pointed this out. They said that without NT's, there would only be leaders (mostly) with noone to lead. It's a bit hyperbolic. In reality, autists would likely sort out a hierarchy. I do think that a world of only autists could work, but like I said, I'm not trying to get rid of neurotypicals nor do I support that idea. One pretty unexpendable merit of NT's is motor speed. Not all autists are as slow as Me, but lt's a fact that logical thought is slower. Given a proper hierarchy fix, neurotypicals can do a lot of good. But NT's are not meant to lead themselves & autists are not meant to follow NT's. Neither camp can do any good as we're not in our native habitats. The best way to work together is proper delegation, where autists lead in their preferred fields & neurotypicals work in their preferred fields. That way neurotypicals will have a purpose to their direction & autists will have freedom & peace of mind for improvement.
Often, but not always. Even lf the probability is 99%, lt is possible for Me to be the 1%. Probability is not the same as possibility. I have no feelings of inferiority, so nothing can develop from there.
Let's face facts here. This stopped being a matter of disagreement a long time ago. Now I'm getting pity & subtle insults, emotional reactions. I've been completely polite & reasonable throughout, I even looked for the positive side & gave out some compliments. The only reason this isn't a cold war is because I'm not a belligerent. "There is a complete lack of insight as to how what you are claiming is in fact total bunkum.". I'm guessing that looked better in your head. 'Attack', is a bit of an exaggeration, but there is a very clear offensive. We're like two sports teams. You have a very clear You-versus-us paradigm when there is no need for lt to be that way. The fact that days later literally EVERYONE is still senselessly arguing against a moot point when this isn't a debate topic goes to show this. I can't say I didn't see lt coming, but lt didn't occur that lt would last this long. How many people actually read the post from top to bottom & tried to help versus people who skimmed, saw something they don't like & decided to argue about lt? I've still yet to receive an answer as to why this is so important to you. You're not losing anything by My claim & you can't gain anything by somehow being right. The expression, 'Choose your battles.', really comes into play here. If you want to keep going down this road, I won't stop you. But you should know that lt is entirely pointless.
I've pretty much already proved lt. My mind's operating system runs nearly exclusively on logic. I rely almost completely on My neocortex. Without a brain scan, that's the best I can do. Though I'm not sure what the point of debating lt is. Does anyone here deny that I am autistic? If you already accept the fact that I am autistic, what difference does the percentage make? If you said you were 100% neurotypical, I wouldn't drop everything & go on some crazy quest to inauthenticate the claim. Why would I have any reason to doubt that right off the bat? Sure, lf we talked for awhile & I noticed some clearly autistic traits, alright, I might question lt. But you guys debate this as though I insulted your mothers. I don't see how the percentage of My autism is a cause for alarm or even relevant to the topic. Yes, lt's in the post title, but really has nothing to do with the question. I know why I'm debating. My integrity is being challenged & I'm defending lt. I'd have some peace of mind lf everyone realized that everything I've said is true & we could move on. I don't understand why any of you are debating. What is the cause for doubt? What is the relevance? What is the purpose of all of the emotions? What is there to gain? What is at stake? Everyone has jumped on this bandwagon, but noone knows why or what the bandwagon really represents.
This is all impeding on your ability to debate properly. How can one debate without a real motivation? There's a tinge of logic there but lt's lost in a sea of unrealized emotions & socially ritualistic behavior. I can describe what's happening using logic, but without limbicortical thinking, I cannot understand any of lt. You're all compromising integrity & peace for social bonding. Why? Are any of you ever going to hang out? I don't know about you, but lf I were to compromise My integrity, I'd want to gain something, not just a brief, positive social image. That has no value. You neurotypicals are strange. You say I am disorderly for only trusting people who are trustworthy. Apparently what I should be doing is going around pretending to be someone else every time the tide is flowing in a clear direction, whether or not I agree with lt, all in the name of pleasing some people who I'll probably never see again nor will ever return the favor & only lasting a brevity. Am I the only one noticing this? When the topic was relatively young, everyone was civil, because that's how the tide was flowing. Then the tide changed when the Fire Nation attacked (a couple of people who decided to take a more hostile approach for whatever reason). Now everyone is more or less taking on this subtle but minorly hostile philosophy. Okay, you made your trade. Now what?
Close, but lt's not because I use My neocortex. Many people who aren't great do. It's about how much I use lt. 1% neocortex usage does not equal human 2.0. It must be at least 50%, which is quite rare. So no, I'm not saying that NT's never use the neocortex. Some don't, while the rest use lt so little that lt's barely worth counting. But for the sake of transparency, every mammal who doesn't have a condition preventing lt, uses their neocortex to some degree. We're all neurologically capable of greatness, unlike lesser evolved life forms. However, only a very small percentage take advantage of this resource enough to qualify for greatness. That's just facts. I don't think anybody disagrees with the assessment that most people are awful. There is a reason for that: neurotypicality.
I hate to make blanket statements, but the probability here is very high. Most NT's are terrible people. It doesn't take a mathematician to realize that since most people are terrible & most people are neurotypical, most NT's are thereby terrible. Some are just bad, others decent, some may even be good. Neurotypicals are not born evil. Studies show that all humans are innately good from birth. It is society that turns people evil & NT's are significantly more likely than autists to be manipulated & corrupted. That is the major disparity. Neurotypicals versus autists is another false dichotomy. We're often too' busy fighting each other to realize that neither side is the enemy. We're being played by the Dark Triad. Divide & conquer. These are the people who are truly awful. Yes, I am like a Vulcan.
I have listed tangible deeds. You have seen fit to skim through posts in a mad rush to reply with yet another illegitimately founded criticism. I cannot discover something that has already been discoverred. I have created a plethora of original & creative works of art, another item that you have neglected to read. I live on a palisade, so floods aren't prevalent. I don't even have a permanent home for Myself. Think of Aladdin. He was a street rat, an impoverished, homeless, social outcast. He is a nice enough guy, but what power did he have to spread prosperity? None. Meeting the Princess, finding a magic genie, finding a monkey companion & a rug, facing an evil vizier, finding two poor, hungry kids who nearly got attacked. These are all chance events, none of which were in his power to create. The Sultan on the other hand can make any changes he desires, good or bad. Was Aladdin's generosity somehow unsubstantiated by the fact that he couldn't provide homes to the homeless, due to being homeless himself? I hope lt is obvious to you that this is not the case. I can only do what is within My circle of influence. It being small is inconsequential to My greatness. Put Me in charge & I will create any improvement you like. I'll provide mansions to the homeless, eliminate all disorders & prevent significant damage from natural disasters. Seriously.
I have to hand lt to you: for being completely incorrect & misguided, you are quite determined & have even come up with some decent explanations to support your views.
Autism is not a catch-all explanation for every attribute. Some traits can seem neurotypical but still be autistic. Is someone who plays the piano well definitely autistic? No. Can they be? Absolutely. Autism does however make lt highly probable that an individual will excel at a given task. As I've said, autism does not explain every trait I have. I have reason to believe that I have the evolutionary beginning of something greater. Still, I am definitely autistic & that definitely makes Me great. I can't speak for everyone, their claims should be treated on individual bases.
What a curious thing to say, when you have never seen anyone else categorize autism into percentages. It seems like an attempt to prove yourself right by comparing Me to other people whose claims are unsubstantiated by neurotypical standards, thereby providing a motivation for Me to make My claim. Clever, but ultimately dishonest.
If you mean the merits of being human 1.0, I do acknowledge merit there. I'm not saying we need to whipe out all neurotypicals so the autistic master race can take over. It is not My place to make that call. That's up to evolution & Yahweh. If they wanted that, lt probably would have happened by now. Neurotypicals can be valuable in the right context, a context where they are not predominant. NT's are great followers. Autists are great leaders. Someone else has pointed this out. They said that without NT's, there would only be leaders (mostly) with noone to lead. It's a bit hyperbolic. In reality, autists would likely sort out a hierarchy. I do think that a world of only autists could work, but like I said, I'm not trying to get rid of neurotypicals nor do I support that idea. One pretty unexpendable merit of NT's is motor speed. Not all autists are as slow as Me, but lt's a fact that logical thought is slower. Given a proper hierarchy fix, neurotypicals can do a lot of good. But NT's are not meant to lead themselves & autists are not meant to follow NT's. Neither camp can do any good as we're not in our native habitats. The best way to work together is proper delegation, where autists lead in their preferred fields & neurotypicals work in their preferred fields. That way neurotypicals will have a purpose to their direction & autists will have freedom & peace of mind for improvement.
Often, but not always. Even lf the probability is 99%, lt is possible for Me to be the 1%. Probability is not the same as possibility. I have no feelings of inferiority, so nothing can develop from there.
If you mean the merits of being human 1.0, I do acknowledge merit there. I'm not saying we need to whipe out all neurotypicals so the autistic master race can take over. It is not My place to make that call. That's up to evolution & Yahweh. If they wanted that, lt probably would have happened by now. Neurotypicals can be valuable in the right context, a context where they are not predominant. NT's are great followers. Autists are great leaders. Someone else has pointed this out. They said that without NT's, there would only be leaders (mostly) with noone to lead. It's a bit hyperbolic. In reality, autists would likely sort out a hierarchy. I do think that a world of only autists could work, but like I said, I'm not trying to get rid of neurotypicals nor do I support that idea. One pretty unexpendable merit of NT's is motor speed. Not all autists are as slow as Me, but lt's a fact that logical thought is slower. Given a proper hierarchy fix, neurotypicals can do a lot of good. But NT's are not meant to lead themselves & autists are not meant to follow NT's. Neither camp can do any good as we're not in our native habitats. The best way to work together is proper delegation, where autists lead in their preferred fields & neurotypicals work in their preferred fields. That way neurotypicals will have a purpose to their direction & autists will have freedom & peace of mind for improvement.
Often, but not always. Even lf the probability is 99%, lt is possible for Me to be the 1%. Probability is not the same as possibility. I have no feelings of inferiority, so nothing can develop from there.
Let's face facts here. This stopped being a matter of disagreement a long time ago. Now I'm getting pity & subtle insults, emotional reactions. I've been completely polite & reasonable throughout, I even looked for the positive side & gave out some compliments. The only reason this isn't a cold war is because I'm not a belligerent. "There is a complete lack of insight as to how what you are claiming is in fact total bunkum.". I'm guessing that looked better in your head. 'Attack', is a bit of an exaggeration, but there is a very clear offensive. We're like two sports teams. You have a very clear You-versus-us paradigm when there is no need for lt to be that way. The fact that days later literally EVERYONE is still senselessly arguing against a moot point when this isn't a debate topic goes to show this. I can't say I didn't see lt coming, but lt didn't occur that lt would last this long. How many people actually read the post from top to bottom & tried to help versus people who skimmed, saw something they don't like & decided to argue about lt? I've still yet to receive an answer as to why this is so important to you. You're not losing anything by My claim & you can't gain anything by somehow being right. The expression, 'Choose your battles.', really comes into play here. If you want to keep going down this road, I won't stop you. But you should know that lt is entirely pointless.
I've pretty much already proved lt. My mind's operating system runs nearly exclusively on logic. I rely almost completely on My neocortex. Without a brain scan, that's the best I can do. Though I'm not sure what the point of debating lt is. Does anyone here deny that I am autistic? If you already accept the fact that I am autistic, what difference does the percentage make? If you said you were 100% neurotypical, I wouldn't drop everything & go on some crazy quest to inauthenticate the claim. Why would I have any reason to doubt that right off the bat? Sure, lf we talked for awhile & I noticed some clearly autistic traits, alright, I might question lt. But you guys debate this as though I insulted your mothers. I don't see how the percentage of My autism is a cause for alarm or even relevant to the topic. Yes, lt's in the post title, but really has nothing to do with the question. I know why I'm debating. My integrity is being challenged & I'm defending lt. I'd have some peace of mind lf everyone realized that everything I've said is true & we could move on. I don't understand why any of you are debating. What is the cause for doubt? What is the relevance? What is the purpose of all of the emotions? What is there to gain? What is at stake? Everyone has jumped on this bandwagon, but noone knows why or what the bandwagon really represents.
This is all impeding on your ability to debate properly. How can one debate without a real motivation? There's a tinge of logic there but lt's lost in a sea of unrealized emotions & socially ritualistic behavior. I can describe what's happening using logic, but without limbicortical thinking, I cannot understand any of lt. You're all compromising integrity & peace for social bonding. Why? Are any of you ever going to hang out? I don't know about you, but lf I were to compromise My integrity, I'd want to gain something, not just a brief, positive social image. That has no value. You neurotypicals are strange. You say I am disorderly for only trusting people who are trustworthy. Apparently what I should be doing is going around pretending to be someone else every time the tide is flowing in a clear direction, whether or not I agree with lt, all in the name of pleasing some people who I'll probably never see again nor will ever return the favor & only lasting a brevity. Am I the only one noticing this? When the topic was relatively young, everyone was civil, because that's how the tide was flowing. Then the tide changed when the Fire Nation attacked (a couple of people who decided to take a more hostile approach for whatever reason). Now everyone is more or less taking on this subtle but minorly hostile philosophy. Okay, you made your trade. Now what?
That's a whole lotta butthurt.
EzraS wrote:
That's a whole lotta butthurt.
It adds IMO to the fact that being on the autism spectrum can sometimes go with psychosis /subclinical psychosis . If the OP is on the spectrum I sense there is more going on with him than that. He's very adamant/fixed in his beliefs. Whether that stops short of being delusional , and is just an overvalued idea, is debatable .
He hasn’t presented one iota of evidence that he is anything more than a common member of the Homo sapiens species.
All which has been said by the OP is based upon the representation of some person on the Internet who’s writing things down that emanates from his own head.
Any science fiction writer who has a modicum of knowledge about neurology can do this.
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