Is Anyone Here 100% Or Close To 100% Autistic?

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24 Nov 2019, 4:04 pm

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If you come on here and make outlandish claims ,as you have done, then of course people are going to challenge you.
So far you've provided nothing beyond " I say X so you must believe me " to back up those claims . It's hyperbole with no substance to it .


That's where we differ. If the roles were reversed, I wouldn't have anything beyond a minor curiousity. And what in your mind would not be an example of, 'I say X.'? From your perspective I can say anything & there is no way I could prove lt in a manner that you might not think falsified. In other words, you won't ever believe Me because you have no desire to. And lt is entirely pointless to debate with someone who will only ever debate one-sidedly. Debating is just as much about considerring opposing evidence as lt is about attempting to convince the opposition of your thesis.

If you'd like to provide some feasible methods in which I could provide evidence which you would consider acceptable, then we can establish some common ground, vital for any debate. But lf you only seek to blindly challenge every little thing I say & cognitively inauthenticate all evidence I provide to prove them, then this has ceased to be a debate.



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24 Nov 2019, 4:17 pm

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Yes, I suppose lt is quite easy to claim something when you refuse to look at the contrary evidence. In other words: read My other replies before you say something unfounded.

Close, but lt's not because I use My neocortex. Many people who aren't great do. It's about how much I use lt. 1% neocortex usage does not equal human 2.0. It must be at least 50%, which is quite rare. So no, I'm not saying that NT's never use the neocortex. Some don't, while the rest use lt so little that lt's barely worth counting. But for the sake of transparency, every mammal who doesn't have a condition preventing lt, uses their neocortex to some degree. We're all neurologically capable of greatness, unlike lesser evolved life forms. However, only a very small percentage take advantage of this resource enough to qualify for greatness. That's just facts. I don't think anybody disagrees with the assessment that most people are awful. There is a reason for that: neurotypicality.

I hate to make blanket statements, but the probability here is very high. Most NT's are terrible people. It doesn't take a mathematician to realize that since most people are terrible & most people are neurotypical, most NT's are thereby terrible. Some are just bad, others decent, some may even be good. Neurotypicals are not born evil. Studies show that all humans are innately good from birth. It is society that turns people evil & NT's are significantly more likely than autists to be manipulated & corrupted. That is the major disparity. Neurotypicals versus autists is another false dichotomy. We're often too' busy fighting each other to realize that neither side is the enemy. We're being played by the Dark Triad. Divide & conquer. These are the people who are truly awful. Yes, I am like a Vulcan.

I have listed tangible deeds. You have seen fit to skim through posts in a mad rush to reply with yet another illegitimately founded criticism. I cannot discover something that has already been discoverred. I have created a plethora of original & creative works of art, another item that you have neglected to read. I live on a palisade, so floods aren't prevalent. I don't even have a permanent home for Myself. Think of Aladdin. He was a street rat, an impoverished, homeless, social outcast. He is a nice enough guy, but what power did he have to spread prosperity? None. Meeting the Princess, finding a magic genie, finding a monkey companion & a rug, facing an evil vizier, finding two poor, hungry kids who nearly got attacked. These are all chance events, none of which were in his power to create. The Sultan on the other hand can make any changes he desires, good or bad. Was Aladdin's generosity somehow unsubstantiated by the fact that he couldn't provide homes to the homeless, due to being homeless himself? I hope lt is obvious to you that this is not the case. I can only do what is within My circle of influence. It being small is inconsequential to My greatness. Put Me in charge & I will create any improvement you like. I'll provide mansions to the homeless, eliminate all disorders & prevent significant damage from natural disasters. Seriously.


I have to hand lt to you: for being completely incorrect & misguided, you are quite determined & have even come up with some decent explanations to support your views.

Autism is not a catch-all explanation for every attribute. Some traits can seem neurotypical but still be autistic. Is someone who plays the piano well definitely autistic? No. Can they be? Absolutely. Autism does however make lt highly probable that an individual will excel at a given task. As I've said, autism does not explain every trait I have. I have reason to believe that I have the evolutionary beginning of something greater. Still, I am definitely autistic & that definitely makes Me great. I can't speak for everyone, their claims should be treated on individual bases.

What a curious thing to say, when you have never seen anyone else categorize autism into percentages. It seems like an attempt to prove yourself right by comparing Me to other people whose claims are unsubstantiated by neurotypical standards, thereby providing a motivation for Me to make My claim. Clever, but ultimately dishonest.

If you mean the merits of being human 1.0, I do acknowledge merit there. I'm not saying we need to whipe out all neurotypicals so the autistic master race can take over. It is not My place to make that call. That's up to evolution & Yahweh. If they wanted that, lt probably would have happened by now. Neurotypicals can be valuable in the right context, a context where they are not predominant. NT's are great followers. Autists are great leaders. Someone else has pointed this out. They said that without NT's, there would only be leaders (mostly) with noone to lead. It's a bit hyperbolic. In reality, autists would likely sort out a hierarchy. I do think that a world of only autists could work, but like I said, I'm not trying to get rid of neurotypicals nor do I support that idea. One pretty unexpendable merit of NT's is motor speed. Not all autists are as slow as Me, but lt's a fact that logical thought is slower. Given a proper hierarchy fix, neurotypicals can do a lot of good. But NT's are not meant to lead themselves & autists are not meant to follow NT's. Neither camp can do any good as we're not in our native habitats. The best way to work together is proper delegation, where autists lead in their preferred fields & neurotypicals work in their preferred fields. That way neurotypicals will have a purpose to their direction & autists will have freedom & peace of mind for improvement.

Often, but not always. Even lf the probability is 99%, lt is possible for Me to be the 1%. Probability is not the same as possibility. I have no feelings of inferiority, so nothing can develop from there.

If you mean the merits of being human 1.0, I do acknowledge merit there. I'm not saying we need to whipe out all neurotypicals so the autistic master race can take over. It is not My place to make that call. That's up to evolution & Yahweh. If they wanted that, lt probably would have happened by now. Neurotypicals can be valuable in the right context, a context where they are not predominant. NT's are great followers. Autists are great leaders. Someone else has pointed this out. They said that without NT's, there would only be leaders (mostly) with noone to lead. It's a bit hyperbolic. In reality, autists would likely sort out a hierarchy. I do think that a world of only autists could work, but like I said, I'm not trying to get rid of neurotypicals nor do I support that idea. One pretty unexpendable merit of NT's is motor speed. Not all autists are as slow as Me, but lt's a fact that logical thought is slower. Given a proper hierarchy fix, neurotypicals can do a lot of good. But NT's are not meant to lead themselves & autists are not meant to follow NT's. Neither camp can do any good as we're not in our native habitats. The best way to work together is proper delegation, where autists lead in their preferred fields & neurotypicals work in their preferred fields. That way neurotypicals will have a purpose to their direction & autists will have freedom & peace of mind for improvement.

Often, but not always. Even lf the probability is 99%, lt is possible for Me to be the 1%. Probability is not the same as possibility. I have no feelings of inferiority, so nothing can develop from there.

Let's face facts here. This stopped being a matter of disagreement a long time ago. Now I'm getting pity & subtle insults, emotional reactions. I've been completely polite & reasonable throughout, I even looked for the positive side & gave out some compliments. The only reason this isn't a cold war is because I'm not a belligerent. "There is a complete lack of insight as to how what you are claiming is in fact total bunkum.". I'm guessing that looked better in your head. 'Attack', is a bit of an exaggeration, but there is a very clear offensive. We're like two sports teams. You have a very clear You-versus-us paradigm when there is no need for lt to be that way. The fact that days later literally EVERYONE is still senselessly arguing against a moot point when this isn't a debate topic goes to show this. I can't say I didn't see lt coming, but lt didn't occur that lt would last this long. How many people actually read the post from top to bottom & tried to help versus people who skimmed, saw something they don't like & decided to argue about lt? I've still yet to receive an answer as to why this is so important to you. You're not losing anything by My claim & you can't gain anything by somehow being right. The expression, 'Choose your battles.', really comes into play here. If you want to keep going down this road, I won't stop you. But you should know that lt is entirely pointless.

I've pretty much already proved lt. My mind's operating system runs nearly exclusively on logic. I rely almost completely on My neocortex. Without a brain scan, that's the best I can do. Though I'm not sure what the point of debating lt is. Does anyone here deny that I am autistic? If you already accept the fact that I am autistic, what difference does the percentage make? If you said you were 100% neurotypical, I wouldn't drop everything & go on some crazy quest to inauthenticate the claim. Why would I have any reason to doubt that right off the bat? Sure, lf we talked for awhile & I noticed some clearly autistic traits, alright, I might question lt. But you guys debate this as though I insulted your mothers. I don't see how the percentage of My autism is a cause for alarm or even relevant to the topic. Yes, lt's in the post title, but really has nothing to do with the question. I know why I'm debating. My integrity is being challenged & I'm defending lt. I'd have some peace of mind lf everyone realized that everything I've said is true & we could move on. I don't understand why any of you are debating. What is the cause for doubt? What is the relevance? What is the purpose of all of the emotions? What is there to gain? What is at stake? Everyone has jumped on this bandwagon, but noone knows why or what the bandwagon really represents.

This is all impeding on your ability to debate properly. How can one debate without a real motivation? There's a tinge of logic there but lt's lost in a sea of unrealized emotions & socially ritualistic behavior. I can describe what's happening using logic, but without limbicortical thinking, I cannot understand any of lt. You're all compromising integrity & peace for social bonding. Why? Are any of you ever going to hang out? I don't know about you, but lf I were to compromise My integrity, I'd want to gain something, not just a brief, positive social image. That has no value. You neurotypicals are strange. You say I am disorderly for only trusting people who are trustworthy. Apparently what I should be doing is going around pretending to be someone else every time the tide is flowing in a clear direction, whether or not I agree with lt, all in the name of pleasing some people who I'll probably never see again nor will ever return the favor & only lasting a brevity. Am I the only one noticing this? When the topic was relatively young, everyone was civil, because that's how the tide was flowing. Then the tide changed when the Fire Nation attacked (a couple of people who decided to take a more hostile approach for whatever reason). Now everyone is more or less taking on this subtle but minorly hostile philosophy. Okay, you made your trade. Now what?


That's a whole lotta butthurt.


I know who not to debate with. In EzraS World, everyone is wrong & EzraS is right. I'm sure you think you're so cool posing in front of your neurotypical, 'friends', tossing out inapplicable insults, despite the fact that I have been entirely patient & civil throughout the conversation & even attempted to be positive by complimenting My critics. You know you've lost the debate when you have to resort to one-sentence insults to respond to entire essays worth of evidence contradictory to your views. You're embarassing yourself. Quit while you still have some dignity to protect & admit that I am right. I know that this is hard for you, as you will have to conversely admit you are wrong, but lt is the right thing to do. I don't know where you get off thinking you are cripplingly autistic, but this is clearly not the case. You are cripplingly neurotypical. Or maybe lt's because you, 'need to read something a few times to understand', that you see fit to toss out petty insults to well-crafted responses. I could give you the benefit of a proper response. Or...

Haha, look, EzraS is getting frustrated that he's losing. Flock around, neurotypicals, join Me in My inane social ritual attempting to gain favor among peers who will never be of any relevance to Me & let us laugh at the expense of the overly emotional EzraS. Let us invalidate every claim that he makes, make him dance for us by having him write long, well-crafted responses, while we ignore lt & tell him that he's gay. That'll teach him not to exist.

I thought I was on WrongPlanet, but clearly I'm on the wrong planet. I somehow ended up on youtube.



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24 Nov 2019, 4:31 pm

Clearly Windows NT is shutting down & the tide is not going to change. Every NT with an Internet connection is going to see this thread, notice the tide & sell their souls to join lt. You've all seen fit to view Me as your enemy. I'm sorry that none of you are capable of common sense or even common courtesy. I am quite indifferent, this is pretty weak compared to youtube & even that doesn't phase Me. But since you have a tendency to automatically invalidate all anecdotal evidence, lt is highly probable that you will all continue to operate under the assumption that you have somehow gotten to Me, thus earning some sort of senseless victory. You clearly don't mind being wrong as long as you can maintain the delusion that you're right, so have fun with that. I'm probably not going to waste precious hours responding to people I know won't read them any longer. But lf any legitimate people do come on here with a valid & unbiased statement or question, I'd be happy to talk to someone in a civil manner. As for the rest of you, lf you want a flame war, I may oblige lf I have time. I do enjoy a good flame war & I always win, so what's not to love?

By the way, props to the site. I am quite fond of the feature that notifies you before submitting a reply that there has been a new reply you may wish to read first. This allows you to solidify more than one response in one reply.



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24 Nov 2019, 7:49 pm

If you were so great, you wouldn’t have to respond to us with long tracts

You would just bask in your greatness. Trying to justify yourself is rough work.

And truly great people don’t waste their time on the Internet bragging about winning flame wars.



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24 Nov 2019, 8:36 pm

He is angry, frustrated, condescending, projecting, having a meltdown. Hungry for attention, even if it is negative attention. Just like an average human. Nothing remarkable or evolved seen in such verbose displays. He lost it a while back and just became redundant and boring. People who are obsessed with themselves, don't seem to realize how boring they become taking about themselves. Especially when at great length.



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24 Nov 2019, 8:46 pm

Hang out with us, OP.



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24 Nov 2019, 10:05 pm

He shouldn't give up on us Neanderthals so quickly. He should think of it as being like Jane Goodall among her primates. Gorillas in the the mist and all that.



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24 Nov 2019, 10:44 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
If you were so great, you wouldn’t have to respond to us with long tracts

You would just bask in your greatness. Trying to justify yourself is rough work.

And truly great people don’t waste their time on the Internet bragging about winning flame wars.


Kinda true. But the only alternative was to ignore your questions, which I didn't want to do. Anyway, I'm done now.



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24 Nov 2019, 10:48 pm

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Hang out with us, OP.


Being subject to insults, whether tongue-in-cheek or blatant, is not My idea of a hang-out. Anyway, I pretty much have been hanging out. I spend an awful lot of time on this site now. One might even call lt unhealthy.



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24 Nov 2019, 10:51 pm

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He shouldn't give up on us Neanderthals so quickly. He should think of it as being like Jane Goodall among her primates. Gorillas in the the mist and all that.


I pretty much do. But who could blame Me? I only started thinking this once hostility began to dominate this atmosphere though. This is essentially neanderthaal behavior. What was once advanced is now mostly obsolete.



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24 Nov 2019, 10:52 pm

Your_Boy wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If you were so great, you wouldn’t have to respond to us with long tracts

You would just bask in your greatness. Trying to justify yourself is rough work.

And truly great people don’t waste their time on the Internet bragging about winning flame wars.


Kinda true. But the only alternative was to ignore your questions, which I didn't want to do. Anyway, I'm done now.


You could have handled it so much more constructivly.



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24 Nov 2019, 10:54 pm

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He shouldn't give up on us Neanderthals so quickly. He should think of it as being like Jane Goodall among her primates. Gorillas in the the mist and all that.


I pretty much do. But who could blame Me? I only started thinking this once hostility began to dominate this atmosphere though. This is essentially neanderthaal behavior. What was once advanced is now mostly obsolete.


You faild the test and met hostility with hostility.



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24 Nov 2019, 10:55 pm

EzraS wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If you were so great, you wouldn’t have to respond to us with long tracts

You would just bask in your greatness. Trying to justify yourself is rough work.

And truly great people don’t waste their time on the Internet bragging about winning flame wars.


Kinda true. But the only alternative was to ignore your questions, which I didn't want to do. Anyway, I'm done now.


You could have handled it so much more constructivly.


How so?

And when was I hostile? Defense & offense are two different things.



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24 Nov 2019, 11:01 pm

Your_Boy wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If you were so great, you wouldn’t have to respond to us with long tracts

You would just bask in your greatness. Trying to justify yourself is rough work.

And truly great people don’t waste their time on the Internet bragging about winning flame wars.


Kinda true. But the only alternative was to ignore your questions, which I didn't want to do. Anyway, I'm done now.


You could have handled it so much more constructivly.


How so?

And when was I hostile? Defense & offense are two different things.


Your comments towards me and others have been laced with hostility, anger, condimnation, condescension. You reacted and behaved like an ordinary person.



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24 Nov 2019, 11:16 pm

EzraS wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Your_Boy wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If you were so great, you wouldn’t have to respond to us with long tracts

You would just bask in your greatness. Trying to justify yourself is rough work.

And truly great people don’t waste their time on the Internet bragging about winning flame wars.


Kinda true. But the only alternative was to ignore your questions, which I didn't want to do. Anyway, I'm done now.


You could have handled it so much more constructivly.


How so?

And when was I hostile? Defense & offense are two different things.


Your comments towards me and others have been laced with hostility, anger, condimnation, condensention. You reacted and behaved like an ordinary person.


I'm a guy typing with a keyboard over an Internet connection. Words don't have emotions. How can you claim to know how I'm feeling when I say something? What you fail to realize is that I have OCD. I find lt incredibly hard to not respond & to not correct someone when they're wrong. In your world, that means I'm emotional. But I assure you, I'm not. Have I ever been emotional before? Yes. Over the Internet? No. It takes someone that I know to hurt My feelings. A person who doesn't know Me attempting to tear Me down is just funny, like a cat chasing a lazer point. If I seemed emotional at the end, lt's just because lt's gotten stale. Nobody is even putting effort into their replies anymore. A somewhat intellectual insult is interesting & possibly funny, as I have pointed out a few times. Resorting to an inapplicable butthurt meme to respond to a wall of text that you didn't understand is neither funny nor interesting. The most emotion that this entire thread has provoked from Me is minor flabbergast.

I'm not sure what you mean by condensation. Condemnation? You're seeing hostility that isn't there & then thinking lt is acceptable to respond in an equally hostile way. If I was being hostile, I would not be complimenting anyone or being patient. When I'm angry, I curse & try to tear the other person down. I can show you examples of responses from when I was actually triggerred. I'm not falling for anything by having OCD. I have a strong psychological impulse to respond & to convince the other person of their mistakes to the best of My ability. If lt's impossible, lt's impossible.



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24 Nov 2019, 11:24 pm

When it comes to my level of autism, it was a bunch of experts in the field who determined what it is, not me. I've been thoroughly tested and evaluated multiple times practically since I was born. Lots of clinics, one white coat after another.

Whereas you were only given a single brief evaluation when you were already 12.