09 Jan 2012, 10:02 pm
Dhawal wrote:
Lady-ivy, welcome to the India thread ! !
Nice to have an autism advocate among us.
Actually I should have guessed from the scarf
Nice to have an autism advocate among us.
Actually I should have guessed from the scarf
Thanks for telling me about this thread Dhawal
It does not seem to have activity for awhile though
My scarf seems to stick out like a sore thumb to those who see I have love for my fellow autistics
10 Jan 2012, 1:48 am
Lady-ivy wrote:
Thanks for telling me about this thread Dhawal
It does not seem to have activity for awhile though
My scarf seems to stick out like a sore thumb to those who see I have love for my fellow autistics
It does not seem to have activity for awhile though
My scarf seems to stick out like a sore thumb to those who see I have love for my fellow autistics
There aren't many people in India who know about autism, so there aren't many Indian aspies on WP. A fellow aspie Sabu started this thread, and the people who have joined since then have posted their comments/opinions here. Really gotta thank Sabu for this great idea.
I'm moving the conversation from the race poll to this thread. The people here might find it useful.
10 Jan 2012, 1:53 am
This is the conversation from the race poll thread.
Lady-ivy wrote:
Am about 35% east indian, 50% black, 15 % white . So i am a mutt
Dhawal wrote:
Nope, you're a beautiful mutt.
Lady-ivy wrote:
Thanks. ever heard of a country called guyana. My dad is half indian by the way and he is from guyana
ever heard of a country called guyana. My dad is half indian by the way and he is from guyanaDhawal wrote:
I've heard of Trinidad Indians and their Bhojpuri Chutney music, but I never knew that 43.5% of Guyanese population was Indian! (wikipedia)
I'm really into geography and historic migrations. Thanks for adding to my knowledge, and also thanks for voting.
I'm really into geography and historic migrations. Thanks for adding to my knowledge, and also thanks for voting
.Lady-ivy wrote:
Am into different cultures and there histories, and costoms but am most interested in the different wildlife and botany around the world.
You sound like your interested in geography and historic migrations have you thought of traveling. Alot of my guyanness relatives are of Indian heritage. And I am interested in learning more about all my heritages from the west Indiaes It nice to meet to meet someone else on here who has Indian heritage
You sound like your interested in geography and historic migrations have you thought of traveling. Alot of my guyanness relatives are of Indian heritage. And I am interested in learning more about all my heritages from the west Indiaes It nice to meet to meet someone else on here who has Indian heritage
Dhawal wrote:
Travelling is just terrible experience for me. Sends me into extreme aspie mode. Really difficult to adjust with new places, sounds, sights, textures, being among people who understand nothing about autism, really terrible. Internet is really a very safe place to learn things 
.
As far as Indian heritage is concerned, there's a whole thread about Indian aspies on wrongplanet - http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt107533.html. Just ignore the first few pages, there's useless flaming there. See from page 3 or 4.
.As far as Indian heritage is concerned, there's a whole thread about Indian aspies on wrongplanet - http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt107533.html. Just ignore the first few pages, there's useless flaming there. See from page 3 or 4.
Lady-ivy wrote:
Traveling can be hard be for some on the spectrum. For me it's the opposite. I grow up traveling alot as child since my dad was in military. So to me moving is something just normal and it excites my autism senses in a good way. I notice the different sounds of what's around. The new smells. How differently people are. The only place I can't handle is the beach and places with sand, It feels strenge on my feet.
How are things for others on the spectrum there in India? I am a autism advocate who sometimes goes to different colleges to speck about growing up with autism. Am most interested in how other people on the spectrum live in their country too. As I want to expand one day help with advocateing for those in different countries.
How are things for others on the spectrum there in India? I am a autism advocate who sometimes goes to different colleges to speck about growing up with autism. Am most interested in how other people on the spectrum live in their country too. As I want to expand one day help with advocateing for those in different countries.
Dhawal wrote:
I was actually wondering some time back, whether there are aspies whose autistic obsessions include travelling. It seemed unlikely but not impossible. I understand that travelling is not your *obsession*, I only mentioned this thing that occurred to me. It is nice that you like travelling, but it's a pity that you don't like sand. After all, you live in California !
India has near zero autism awareness. Of late there a some signs of awareness spreading. In terms of living in India or within the Indian culture, there are multiple issues. I don't know many Indian aspies, I haven't met anyone personally (atleast not anyone who knows about it). I can only speak of my own experience.
India is a very noisy country, so sensory overload is a major problem. Indian culture is not very accommodative of differences or individualism. So people (even well-meaning ones) force you to behave in a certain way, not because there's any benefit, just because everyone else does.
The bright side is that Indians are very warm and (I don't know what word to use) 'inclusive' people. They'll ask you to join them in their celebrations or social gatherings, and even if you refuse coldly, they keep insisting. It is very touching. Secondly, India does not have the bullying issue so much. There are instances, but compared to the west, people will usually not be cold and indifferent to those who are different.
It is strange, but they'll not let you be different, and at the same time they'll include you and force you to fit in, but nicely and with warmth. Hmmm ... I guess Indian culture is bit strange.
These are the major aspects in a nutshell, of course there's much more to it than what I've written.
India has near zero autism awareness. Of late there a some signs of awareness spreading. In terms of living in India or within the Indian culture, there are multiple issues. I don't know many Indian aspies, I haven't met anyone personally (atleast not anyone who knows about it). I can only speak of my own experience.
India is a very noisy country, so sensory overload is a major problem. Indian culture is not very accommodative of differences or individualism. So people (even well-meaning ones) force you to behave in a certain way, not because there's any benefit, just because everyone else does.
The bright side is that Indians are very warm and (I don't know what word to use) 'inclusive' people. They'll ask you to join them in their celebrations or social gatherings, and even if you refuse coldly, they keep insisting. It is very touching. Secondly, India does not have the bullying issue so much. There are instances, but compared to the west, people will usually not be cold and indifferent to those who are different.
It is strange, but they'll not let you be different, and at the same time they'll include you and force you to fit in, but nicely and with warmth. Hmmm ... I guess Indian culture is bit strange
.These are the major aspects in a nutshell, of course there's much more to it than what I've written.
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10 Jan 2012, 2:17 am
Lady-ivy wrote:
Cailforina has only sand at beaches. Thank goodness I don't live near a beach. Cailforina is ok I whould prefer to live in new York were most of west Indian guyananess are. That a good sign some awareness is spreading even in Guyana from what grandma says Guyana still has no awareness. You chould help with the awareness in India. It won't be
easy. But trying small thing like wearing a autism awareness pin or something like finding an organizing, an expert in the autism field or making a website or blog about living with autism
in india, it might gain following from other families with someone who might have autism
looking for answers or bring those awesome people on the spectrum too who are wanting
to know if there are others like them.
For the sensory overload do you have do have to work round life in order to function with the different noise levels in different parts of the day.? Hmm that's interesting almost sounds like the military were you have to show no individualism. I know what you mean about being very warm even people who are part of my uncles family who never met me were really nice to me and if was in shop owned by Indians they whould be really helpful to me or. If eat Indian food out somewhere I always seem get. More food. Then my friends ,
I don't if It was becouse I look Indian. Even though am mix and more black but people tend to say I look more Indian. so they pretty much helping someone who might share their own culture but I say they are pretty nice but they seem a little quiet to non Indians in the west so maybe Indians living in the west act little different then those living in south Asia as most people try to act the same there or like you like you said the non liking of individualism as
west tends to be loving individualism. You are right about western cultures being almost
Being indifferent to those different. But at same time west celebrate patriotism and america has its melting pot. but let's people in same culture bully those who are different. Every ones culture has a bad and good .
I almost want to return to my dad culture which is muti cultural too like Americans but less indifferent too but however i yarn to not to have too much individualism as I get. In US culture which I got that all my life becouse America seem to like the idea of individualism it get tiring after while. I almost want share the same aspects with like people from my own west Indin guyanese culture maybe part be of it and marry someone from the same culture I tend to like west indian guys with a east Indian
Heritage. It must be from having family members who have this heritage line.
These same ideas of similar is the same thing being on the spectrum something we all have in common as it makes us part of the autism community
We are trying to do our bit to spread awareness in India. Jhomes, a fellow aspie I met on the net has created this on a mobile forum -
http://www.frendz4m.com/forum/showthrea ... 332907.htm. You might find it interesting. We are looking for avenues to spread awareness in India though internet. Ideas and suggestions are welcome from everyone!
The blog idea is really great. I have a blog already but not on autism. I can create another blog for this purpose.
The other ideas are a bit tricky. There aren't any autism experts in my city or state. All over India there would be no more than 5 experts. Psychologists themselves have no awareness about autism, India is where western countries were 10 years ago.
I have found makeshift solutions for sensory overload (not very effective), but what has really helped me is support from my wife and parents. It took a bit of explaining before my parents actually understood about autism.
And maybe because you look more Indian, I found you very pretty. Just the way you like west Indian guys with east Indian heritage, I'm partial to Indian girls
.
10 Jan 2012, 9:08 pm
[/quote]
We are trying to do our bit to spread awareness in India. Jhomes, a fellow aspie I met on the net has created this on a mobile forum -
http://www.frendz4m.com/forum/showthrea ... 332907.htm. You might find it interesting. We are looking for avenues to spread awareness in India though internet. Ideas and
suggestions are welcome from everyone!
The blog idea is really great. I have a blog already but not on autism. I can create another blog for this purpose.
The other ideas are a bit tricky. There aren't any autism experts in my city or state. All over India there would be no more than 5 experts. Psychologists themselves have no awareness about autism, India is where western countries were 10 years ago.
I have found makeshift solutions for sensory overload (not very effective), but what has really helped me is support from my wife and parents. It took a bit of explaining before my parents
actually understood about autism.
And maybe because you look more Indian, I found you very pretty. Just the way you like west Indian guys with east Indian heritage, I'm partial to Indian girls .[/quote]
I check out the site. I say it's a good start. I don't know in India if one can get themselves an official diagnose from a doctor. But for alot people who can not get them selves diagnose
this is pretty good as it help this person diagnose themselves properly and tells them what they do to help themselves. Kudos to Jhomes 
. I am part of the autism society. I don't know if their . Organizing help other countries but I will look.
The melatonin helps me sleep and omega 3 really help me focused on everything if I did not take these I whould be on the wall so this site is actuate on what is helpful. But think about adding stimming, sensitivity to touch, sound, light, many others one might have with sensitivity.
That's good if your wife and parents are helping you all the way. Family support is always the best network for autistic as makes the home the safe heaven for the natural autistic to be themselves. However it not always case for some 
. For me Everyone is supportive of me I have been teaching a few people in my family and my grandma has been reading more about autism. but my dad is questionable he is supportive but he sometimes tell me to be stop being autistic and be an adult or seems to blame the things I do which I know is not autism on Autism.
People tend to have attraction to what's around them it's mostly true
And I just happen to love Indian men 
as there is a couple of them from my family
11 Jan 2012, 3:24 am
Lady-ivy wrote:
I check out the site. I say it's a good start. I don't know in India if one can get themselves an official diagnose from a doctor. But for alot people who can not get them selves diagnose
this is pretty good as it help this person diagnose themselves properly and tells them what they do to help themselves. Kudos to Jhomes. I am part of the autism society. I don't know if their . Organizing help other countries but I will look.
The melatonin helps me sleep and omega 3 really help me focused on everything if I did not take these I whould be on the wall so this site is actuate on what is helpful. But think about adding stimming, sensitivity to touch, sound, light, many others one might have with sensitivity.
That's good if your wife and parents are helping you all the way. Family support is always the best network for autistic as makes the home the safe heaven for the natural autistic to be themselves. However it not always case for some . For me Everyone is supportive of me I have been teaching a few people in my family and my grandma has been reading more about autism. but my dad is questionable he is supportive but he sometimes tell me to be stop being autistic and be an adult or seems to blame the things I do which I know is not autism on Autism.
People tend to have attraction to what's around them it's mostly true
And I just happen to love Indian men as there is a couple of them from my family
this is pretty good as it help this person diagnose themselves properly and tells them what they do to help themselves. Kudos to Jhomes
. I am part of the autism society. I don't know if their . Organizing help other countries but I will look. The melatonin helps me sleep and omega 3 really help me focused on everything if I did not take these I whould be on the wall
so this site is actuate on what is helpful. But think about adding stimming, sensitivity to touch, sound, light, many others one might have with sensitivity. That's good if your wife and parents are helping you all the way. Family support is always the best network for autistic as makes the home the safe heaven for the natural autistic to be themselves. However it not always case for some
. For me Everyone is supportive of me I have been teaching a few people in my family and my grandma has been reading more about autism. but my dad is questionable he is supportive but he sometimes tell me to be stop being autistic and be an adult or seems to blame the things I do which I know is not autism on Autism. People tend to have attraction to what's around them it's mostly true
And I just happen to love Indian men
as there is a couple of them from my familyThe 'cures' part in that thread was not posted by Jhomes or me. Some third person took that from wikipedia. I personally don't believe in medicine cures for autism, as I don't believe it is a disease.
Jhomes faces social issues much more, he doesn't face the sensory issues much, so the article is tilted in that direction. I'll ask him to add stimming and other sensory issues in more detail.
My father also doesn't believe much in this autism thing, but he doesn't say so. He tries to be supportive, but I can tell that he's not into it as completely as my wife and my mother. My wife is the real light of my life. Without her support, I would've never had the courage or clarity to search for solutions on the internet. I've been surfing the net since I was 20, but I only found about aspergers at the age of 28, 3 years after marriage. It was as if God decided to make up for all my years of pain, by bringing me an angel
.
11 Jan 2012, 7:23 pm
Dhawal wrote:
Lady-ivy wrote:
The 'cures' part in that thread was not posted by Jhomes or me. Some third person took that from wikipedia. I personally don't believe in medicine cures for autism, as I don't believe it is a disease.
Jhomes faces social issues much more, he doesn't face the sensory issues much, so the
article is tilted in that direction. I'll ask him to add stimming and other sensory issues in more detail.
My father also doesn't believe much in this autism thing, but he doesn't say so. He tries to be supportive, but I can tell that he's not into it as completely as my wife and my mother. My wife is the real light of my life. Without her support, I would've never had the courage or clarity to search for solutions on the internet. I've been surfing the net since I was 20, but I only found about aspergers at the age of 28, 3 years after marriage. It was as if God decided to make up for all my years of pain, by bringing me an angel
.I was not trying to address Meds as a cures and they should not looked this way as they are not intendded to cure autism. be but if someone wanted to use meds (not forced use it) to possibly to them function better. I say why not, it's up to them to see what they like..
I have same belief as you it is not disese so it needs no cure. Just the understanding of
autism. I do not advocate the taking of prosceaption meds unless they really needed them.
But always suggest to others who might possibly need help to function better I tell them by taking non proception meds like melatonin as alot people on the spectrum have sleep problems. Some have focus problems and sociallng thought process like me. And the omegas work wonders for me. I find can focus better something I need to be successful in
college. And socializing people I need thought procss. On days I did not take them my mind feels daze and bilnk like and I can't Focus more clearly on my thoughts. meds are meant to be like a power up.
That's awesome.
your wife's part to give you courage it is always an eye opener when one finds relief( getting rid of weight on your shoulder) : I wander did you ever thought you were autistic? Growing up i had the signs of being autistic but I was being diagnose with ADHD ( they now think it may be part of spatruim) and OCD instead of autism
I did not official become diagnose with PDD NOS( on the sprcatriom) at the age of 18 but the experts I know as friends say I am close to having aspergers. I did not except being autistic Intill i was 19 when when a friend of mine( has autism too) invited me to speck with her on specking panel about autism at a university. Then I began to understand and to have love for my condition. And this one specking engament changed my outlook in life and datcated
my life for autism. I have friends in all levels of the spatruim today So you can say my friend was my angel. She helped me become who I am today.
12 Jan 2012, 4:56 am
Lady-ivy wrote:
I was not trying to address Meds as a cures and they should not looked this way as they are not intendded to cure autism. be but if someone wanted to use meds (not forced use it) to possibly to them function better. I say why not, it's up to them to see what they like..
I have same belief as you it is not disese so it needs no cure. Just the understanding of
autism. I do not advocate the taking of prosceaption meds unless they really needed them.
But always suggest to others who might possibly need help to function better I tell them by taking non proception meds like melatonin as alot people on the spectrum have sleep problems. Some have focus problems and sociallng thought process like me. And the omegas work wonders for me. I find can focus better something I need to be successful in
college. And socializing people I need thought procss. On days I did not take them my mind feels daze and bilnk like and I can't Focus more clearly on my thoughts. meds are meant to be like a power up.
That's awesome. your wife's part to give you courage it is always an eye opener when one finds relief( getting rid of weight on your shoulder) : I wander did you ever thought you were autistic? Growing up i had the signs of being autistic but I was being diagnose with ADHD ( they now think it may be part of spatruim) and OCD instead of autism
I did not official become diagnose with PDD NOS( on the sprcatriom) at the age of 18 but the experts I know as friends say I am close to having aspergers. I did not except being autistic Intill i was 19 when when a friend of mine( has autism too) invited me to speck with her on specking panel about autism at a university. Then I began to understand and to have love for my condition. And this one specking engament changed my outlook in life and datcated
my life for autism. I have friends in all levels of the spatruim today So you can say my friend was my angel. She helped me become who I am today.
I have same belief as you it is not disese so it needs no cure. Just the understanding of
autism. I do not advocate the taking of prosceaption meds unless they really needed them.
But always suggest to others who might possibly need help to function better I tell them by taking non proception meds like melatonin as alot people on the spectrum have sleep problems. Some have focus problems and sociallng thought process like me. And the omegas work wonders for me. I find can focus better something I need to be successful in
college. And socializing people I need thought procss. On days I did not take them my mind feels daze and bilnk like and I can't Focus more clearly on my thoughts. meds are meant to be like a power up.
That's awesome.
your wife's part to give you courage it is always an eye opener when one finds relief( getting rid of weight on your shoulder) : I wander did you ever thought you were autistic? Growing up i had the signs of being autistic but I was being diagnose with ADHD ( they now think it may be part of spatruim) and OCD instead of autism I did not official become diagnose with PDD NOS( on the sprcatriom) at the age of 18 but the experts I know as friends say I am close to having aspergers. I did not except being autistic Intill i was 19 when when a friend of mine( has autism too) invited me to speck with her on specking panel about autism at a university. Then I began to understand and to have love for my condition. And this one specking engament changed my outlook in life and datcated
my life for autism. I have friends in all levels of the spatruim today So you can say my friend was my angel. She helped me become who I am today.
I was just talking about my own belief. Me and Jhomes don't follow that ethic. Actually I think that anyone has the right to have his own beliefs, even to the extent of looking for a 'cure', as long as it is his/her own, not of the parents.
Like I said before, there is zero autism awareness in India. I had never heard of aspergers syndrome or ADHD before. My aspergers and mild ADHD are self-diagnosed. Back in college, I once saw a friend's psychology book with a section on autism. It didn't match my symptoms at all. It didn't occur to me that mild autism symptoms could be so wildly different from severe autism symptoms.
I knew all my life that there was something wrong/different about me, but I could never put a finger on it. If you see my post on page 10 of the mobile forum ( http://www.frendz4m.com/forum/showthrea ... 7--180.htm - one in diff colours), you'll understand the reason why.
Just like you and me, Jhomes found an angel in his best friend. He learned about aspergers on facebook, and told jhomes that he might be an aspie.
13 Jan 2012, 12:03 am
13 Jan 2012, 1:34 am
13 Jan 2012, 9:53 pm
Dhawal wrote:
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Alright, here comes the third world reality. India's literacy rate is 75%, with literacy rates ranging from 65% to 95% for different states (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_India). There is massive ignorance about social issues, there is also superstition. When an average Indian child has autism, parents believe him to be plain stupid or even ret*d (think American rednecks). I am tempted to say that this is not the case with the new educated urban middle-class, but my experience shows otherwise. There is economic development, but socially even urban India is typical third world.
I read on the internet that, there are as many types of aspies as there are types of NTs. When you mentioned the blog idea, the next thing that occured to me was a memoir. But I think it will only take shape, after there are a number of blog posts. First and foremost, aspies and their families need to know about autism. First they need to know what autism is, the experience part will only come after that. If they haven't even heard of it, they won't know what to search. That's why basic awareness is more important in India right now.
During my kid and teen years, I was in my own world all the time. I try not to think about
those years because it was very painful. I try to look ahead rather than behind. The eye contact thing I didn't even know before I read about aspergers. I didn't know that people stare right in your eyes while talking!!
Alright, here comes the third world reality. India's literacy rate is 75%, with literacy rates ranging from 65% to 95% for different states (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_India). There is massive ignorance about social issues, there is also superstition. When an average Indian child has autism, parents believe him to be plain stupid or even ret*d (think American rednecks). I am tempted to say that this is not the case with the new educated urban middle-class, but my experience shows otherwise. There is economic development, but socially even urban India is typical third world.
I read on the internet that, there are as many types of aspies as there are types of NTs. When you mentioned the blog idea, the next thing that occured to me was a memoir. But I think it will only take shape, after there are a number of blog posts. First and foremost, aspies and their families need to know about autism. First they need to know what autism is, the experience part will only come after that. If they haven't even heard of it, they won't know what to search. That's why basic awareness is more important in India right now.
During my kid and teen years, I was in my own world all the time. I try not to think about
those years because it was very painful. I try to look ahead rather than behind. The eye contact thing I didn't even know before I read about aspergers. I didn't know that people stare right in your eyes while talking!!
I know the eye contact Is quite weird. It funny that no one ever said anything about it when I was young. I now understand when I talked to people why they almost look behind them, I relize now that they are wundering what am looking at. The stare in eye thing when you are talking to someone is cultural. Western countries do it. A few non western countries do it too. ( not share if India does it) but I know some counties in oriental Asia do not do eye contact as it seen a thing of disrespect.
The last time when looked in sociology textbook it said India is a second world country. Literacy rate of 75 % is still pretty good. In social envirmanetal science it say a higher literacy rate, a better living for a country and helps the place grow overall. Am sure its literacy
Will grow. India seems to be heading in the right growth( you can clarify for me on your own opiaion about it)
Thats why advocation from those on spratuiom will help. It changes myth. But it will be hard( even when my grandma has read tons of books about autism she still has this questionable view of autism as she wont let come to new york and live in her house with out my parents. She thinks she cant handle me because of so call meltdowns she thinks every autistic gets. and you are right start at basic. When everyone looks what autism is and see its faces. All They see is functional autistics who can do things in life . Parents should be part of the first targets. Change the parents, the child gets better understanding home even if the parents have adult children a better relationship with their child. Must of the people I talk to when I am on a panel are
first time parent and even in America you here stuff from parents who told them from people they know say to them about their child ( like am sorry for you) or parents feel like their child
never do anything they hope there child chould do. The parents ask you a million questions example ( do you date) ( do you drive) ( do you go to college) ( how was your childhood and teens. Seems like I have to bring up my past a lot to others
I can't tell you how nice it is talk to someone from a different county . Am finding myself learning about life for others on the spectrum. It very interesting
14 Jan 2012, 2:14 am
Lady-ivy wrote:
I know the eye contact Is quite weird. It funny that no one ever said anything about it when I was young. I now understand when I talked to people why they almost look behind them, I relize now that they are wundering what am looking at. The stare in eye thing when you are talking to someone is cultural. Western countries do it. A few non western countries do it too. ( not share if India does it) but I know some counties in oriental Asia do not do eye contact as it seen a thing of disrespect.
The last time when looked in sociology textbook it said India is a second world country. Literacy rate of 75 % is still pretty good. In social envirmanetal science it say a higher literacy rate, a better living for a country and helps the place grow overall. Am sure its literacy
Will grow. India seems to be heading in the right growth( you can clarify for me on your own opiaion about it)
Thats why advocation from those on spratuiom will help. It changes myth. But it will be hard( even when my grandma has read tons of books about autism she still has this questionable view of autism as she wont let come to new york and live in her house with out my parents. She thinks she cant handle me because of so call meltdowns she thinks every autistic gets. and you are right start at basic. When everyone looks what autism is and see its faces. All They see is functional autistics who can do things in life . Parents should be part of the first targets. Change the parents, the child gets better understanding home even if the parents have adult children a better relationship with their child. Must of the people I talk to when I am on a panel are
first time parent and even in America you here stuff from parents who told them from people they know say to them about their child ( like am sorry for you) or parents feel like their child
never do anything they hope there child chould do. The parents ask you a million questions example ( do you date) ( do you drive) ( do you go to college) ( how was your childhood and teens. Seems like I have to bring up my past a lot to others
I can't tell you how nice it is talk to someone from a different county . Am finding myself learning about life for others on the spectrum. It very interesting
The last time when looked in sociology textbook it said India is a second world country. Literacy rate of 75 % is still pretty good. In social envirmanetal science it say a higher literacy rate, a better living for a country and helps the place grow overall. Am sure its literacy
Will grow. India seems to be heading in the right growth( you can clarify for me on your own opiaion about it)
Thats why advocation from those on spratuiom will help. It changes myth. But it will be hard( even when my grandma has read tons of books about autism she still has this questionable view of autism as she wont let come to new york and live in her house with out my parents. She thinks she cant handle me because of so call meltdowns she thinks every autistic gets. and you are right start at basic. When everyone looks what autism is and see its faces. All They see is functional autistics who can do things in life . Parents should be part of the first targets. Change the parents, the child gets better understanding home even if the parents have adult children a better relationship with their child. Must of the people I talk to when I am on a panel are
first time parent and even in America you here stuff from parents who told them from people they know say to them about their child ( like am sorry for you) or parents feel like their child
never do anything they hope there child chould do. The parents ask you a million questions example ( do you date) ( do you drive) ( do you go to college) ( how was your childhood and teens. Seems like I have to bring up my past a lot to others
I can't tell you how nice it is talk to someone from a different county . Am finding myself learning about life for others on the spectrum. It very interesting
India has a very strong eye-contact culture, most countries do.
The 1st, 2nd, 3rd world definitions were created during the cold war - 1st world signifies developed countries, 2nd world is communist countries, and 3rd world is developing countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World
India has never been a communist country, so it falls under the 3rd world definition.
These definitions are outdated, so maybe I should say developed and developing countries instead.
The 75% literacy rate is a misguiding statistic. The quality of education is way below the US, specially in government schools where the poor children study. In worst-case scenarios, 14-15 year old literates cannot read or write properly, but those cases are very few. All of them can read-write enough to sign a document, and enough to keep them out of bonded labour or debt slavery (not sarcasm, this is important in India).
And as I mentioned earlier, growth does not imply social improvement. That's why parents of autistic kids see them as stupid/ret*d. There are no autism myths in India, because an overwhelming majority has never heard the word 'Autism'.
I know about the western scenario, that is why I am afraid of misinformation spreading. We in India have a chance of spreading the right information in first go, so that later we don't have to combat misinformation. That is twice the work. As if one isn't hard enough.
This is why I only try to spread awareness about adult aspergers issues, the only thing that I know about. I don't know anyone with severe autism, or any parent of autistic child. Most neurologists, psychologists ('experts') don't know about autism. So we are at the very beginning of our task. This situation has challenges, but also possibilities and opportunities which western people never had.
I want to thank you, Lady-ivy. Your questions have helped me to contribute so much to this thread, that I couldn't do otherwise. There was so much in my head that I had never written. You're so receptive and easy to talk to, the thoughts just flow! It is a good thing that you're an autism advocate. The world needs you.
Sabu
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14 Jan 2012, 6:31 am
Hi Sabu,
I'm really sorry to hear about your friend. You said this happened lately, was it before or after you found out about aspergers?
And you're absolutely right about the spirit. It should be a crime to break a person's spirit. :angry:[/quote]
Hello Dhawal,
We met long ago about 4 years back in Bangalore. We met during our joining in my previous organization, and were together for about 2 months, I didn't knew about aspergers then. He went to do his MBA from IIT, and we almost lost contact. Then suddenly this news I heard from a common friend.
He was depressed and on medication and had broken all contacts from friends. I was saddened to hear this.
Its ok we can't do anything now but I get emotional quite often
Some serious discussions happening on this thread . Nice to read. Thanks Dhawal for keeping this thread alive, I had lost all hope that this will work
Sabu
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Joined: 19 Feb 2009
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 51
Location: Lost in the world
14 Jan 2012, 6:38 am
MissWiggy wrote:
Dhawal wrote:
Autism awareness is slowly increasing in India, there will be more and more people joining this thread. The only thing is that most of them decide not to keep up with it.
I guess people forget since they are busy with their daily lives... I had completely forgotten about this thread too and usually post on other sections or forums.
Hi MissWiggy,
All thanks to Dhawal that this is still alive. He is the Knight in shining armour for this thread
. I came back after soooooo long time.
Are you from India? Which place do you live?
14 Jan 2012, 6:49 am
Sabu
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Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 51
Location: Lost in the world
14 Jan 2012, 7:17 am
Lady-ivy wrote:
Hi am not from India. While my grandpa is from is from India. He grow up in Guyana and so did the rest of my relative who alot them are Indian or mixes like me. Guyana has a huge population of Indians there. I am about 35% Indian. 50% black and 15% white. I would love to meet others here who share a Indian heritage.
I am autism advocate, a full time college student with a major in environmental science/ ecology.
My interest is wildlife, botany, nature, movies, autism, books, mircobiology and health. Video games, cultures,biology, running,
I am autism advocate, a full time college student with a major in environmental science/ ecology.
My interest is wildlife, botany, nature, movies, autism, books, mircobiology and health. Video games, cultures,biology, running,
Hello Lady-ivy, welcome to this forum. I am 100% Indian
My Name is Saurabh aka Sabu and I am from Delhi, India.
Nice to hear from you.
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