any goths out there??

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Yes! I love Sex Gang Children.
I have the Batastrophe album from Specimen. I will have to check out the new album.
The Fair Sex is good. Kinda the same style as Skinny Puppy.
She Wants Revenge is a somewhat newer band. But they have an older post punk thing going on.

I will check out the other bands you mentioned too.
Thanks

I was a 'goth' back in high school. Prior to that I was always fascinated with anything 'dark'. I was the Wicked Witch in a school play for example, and found the experience extremely easy in comparison to other social settings. Now, as an adult, I would say I am a 'recovering goth'. While I do not try to pick out goth styles anymore, the music is an inherent part of who I am. Old Christian Death circa Rozz Williams has always been a favourite of mine.

If I ever get dragged to this club on "Goth" night again, I'm making a shirt that says "Who the hell is Rozz Williams?"

My button that says "Goths don't dance" got me some dirty looks. I guess collage kids playing dress up can't appreciate sarcasm.

This is a great list. Is there really still such a thing as "goth" nowadays? I thought the kids are calling it's current Mickey Mouse version "emo" - I don't care, so don't bother explaining it to me.

I've been a fan of several of these groups for years, but I always stayed away from the label and dress code - saw myself as a non-conformist. So much flows out of elaborations of Joy Division's simple but effective formula. I like all of The Cure's albums from 17 Secs to Disintegration - I know what you mean about the 1st albums, but it's interesting The Smiths is also on this list. This early era still had that punk ethic of being against the mainstream music industry, and wasn't as corrupted by commercialisation because it just didn't make as much money as pop music, and it wasn't until the 90s that it was found to be exploitable for profit. Now that those sounds are thoroughly assimilated into pop, commercialisation is seen as viable, there's not such a pop-underground divide, and unlike then they now freely draw from and blend into one another.

... So I find this era refreshing, for having relatively more authenticity and integrity.

My husband & I had a "Goth" themed wedding... My wedding dress was black and purple, with a corset top and a full ball gown with bustle. All my bridesmaids wore black and purple... My husband and all the groomsmen wore tripp pants... It was all kind of epic. And interesting for my family, because my sister got married just over a month before we did (yep, planned 2 weddings in one family in one summer, exhausting!) and she did the whole traditional, white wedding. It was kind of entertaining to see the dichotomy.

Jag är 23 år och också från Sverige. Jag är som sagt inte gotare, men ganska närliggande. Jag brukar se min utseendemässiga stil som metal eller scene, lite blandat där emellan, och jag lyssnar mest på olika former av alternativ metal. Som t.ex. melodisk metalcore och melodisk deathmetal. Men jag fascineras också av "gotiska" saker, även om de inte är mina huvudsakliga intressen (för det är musiken och spela skräckspel) =)