Hi I am new
I am older than you with two days , this makes a difference
j/k
welcome to WP you too
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KBABZ
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Location: Middle Earth. Er, I mean Wellywood. Wait, Wellington.
Flitch, you're from Egypt!?! Wow, we hadan Iraqi here once, but he's not around anymore. Not that he stayed for long.
It's scorching down here in NZ right now. I tell ya, it's so hot you could sue God for mass sunburns. Okay sorry if that offended you.
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It's scorching down here in NZ right now. I tell ya, it's so hot you could sue God for mass sunburns. Okay sorry if that offended you.
lol, summer time in NZ lol
its cold for an egyptian here ( which means a spring time for a westerner ) .
iraq is very far from egypt , they are both counted as middle east , as france and canada counted west
and if you sued God , God will sue you back for not using an umbrella and sun blocker creams which He created the people who invented them
non offence taken , thank you for welcoming me
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KBABZ
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Location: Middle Earth. Er, I mean Wellywood. Wait, Wellington.
Do you have any questions about NZ you'd like answered?
yep , what's the time there now?!
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From childhood's hour I have not been
As others were; I have not seen
As others saw; I could not bring
My passions from a common spring.
KBABZ
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Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,012
Location: Middle Earth. Er, I mean Wellywood. Wait, Wellington.
What time is it over there?
goodness , its 11 hours difference
when its 11 PM your time , it was 12 PM ( noon ) my time
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As others were; I have not seen
As others saw; I could not bring
My passions from a common spring.
Hi Nagy!
I am so happy to know you, and that you are still here. people come and go, on WP as well as everywhere else. WP makes me happy because I have found my tribe, and because we can all assist each other in facing life as permanent outlanders. Within WP we define our own norm.
The meeting with clients was two and a half hours this time! This is difficult for me as I am typical aspie, and have a difficult time when in company. Well, not all company. I have friends (they are NT, but very accepting, and at 53 I have learned - largely the hard way - to fit into society, at least to some degree) that I get along with very well, and whose presence is not a drain. However, these clients are just that: Clients. They are decent enough, but not trusted firends. Business hangs on this, and so there is a politic which is made more complex by the fact that they are not primarily my clients. . .I have been brought into this case by a contractor, also at the meeting. If I make an error it will cost him business as well.
Business is always political in nature. And communication between NTs is far less about logical exchange than it is about emotions. I fail to grasp emotion. I do not well read a person's eyes, nor facial expression, nor body language, not vocal tonality. I certainly lack the ability to do these things automatically. And so I try so hard to read by way of conscious effort. But the conscious mind was not intended to handle emotive communication. and I generally am also unsure of the emotion that I feel, and I know well that i do not accurately transmit!
And so this sort of thing is a major effort. I can do it. I did do it. But success comes at a price. I got home at 8:00PM and could not sleep until midnight, and was "toasted". by the exchange.
Ahhhh, well, we may get the job. it depends on whether I am god enough architect to cramm $200,000 of features into $100,000 of space! Eventually i do get paid. and society is exchange, so I exchange. then I crash out and sleep! I have been hard at work more than three decades now. I haven't won - big, but haven't lost, at least I am alive.
And I am glad to be alive too, especially since landing on WP and finding such wonderful friends, such an assistive and good natured tribe. And since meeting you here in virtual space. Sending all my best metaphysical vibes to you,
nutbag
weird , its rare to see people here with the color of carmel
and more rare to find someone with a freaky hair lol
for some reason , I am kinda white , not as you people , sun has many ways to color people , lol, but with red cheeks , which makes me kinda unique here
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From childhood's hour I have not been
As others were; I have not seen
As others saw; I could not bring
My passions from a common spring.
I am so happy to know you, and that you are still here. people come and go, on WP as well as everywhere else. WP makes me happy because I have found my tribe, and because we can all assist each other in facing life as permanent outlanders. Within WP we define our own norm.
The meeting with clients was two and a half hours this time! This is difficult for me as I am typical aspie, and have a difficult time when in company. Well, not all company. I have friends (they are NT, but very accepting, and at 53 I have learned - largely the hard way - to fit into society, at least to some degree) that I get along with very well, and whose presence is not a drain. However, these clients are just that: Clients. They are decent enough, but not trusted firends. Business hangs on this, and so there is a politic which is made more complex by the fact that they are not primarily my clients. . .I have been brought into this case by a contractor, also at the meeting. If I make an error it will cost him business as well.
Business is always political in nature. And communication between NTs is far less about logical exchange than it is about emotions. I fail to grasp emotion. I do not well read a person's eyes, nor facial expression, nor body language, not vocal tonality. I certainly lack the ability to do these things automatically. And so I try so hard to read by way of conscious effort. But the conscious mind was not intended to handle emotive communication. and I generally am also unsure of the emotion that I feel, and I know well that i do not accurately transmit!
And so this sort of thing is a major effort. I can do it. I did do it. But success comes at a price. I got home at 8:00PM and could not sleep until midnight, and was "toasted". by the exchange.
Ahhhh, well, we may get the job. it depends on whether I am god enough architect to cramm $200,000 of features into $100,000 of space! Eventually i do get paid. and society is exchange, so I exchange. then I crash out and sleep! I have been hard at work more than three decades now. I haven't won - big, but haven't lost, at least I am alive.
And I am glad to be alive too, especially since landing on WP and finding such wonderful friends, such an assistive and good natured tribe. And since meeting you here in virtual space. Sending all my best metaphysical vibes to you,
nutbag
I am here , and I am not going anywhere else , I loved the place and people here , its really a place which I see my problems in life , in the writings of others , and it really keeps amazing me how we are different in religions , environments , education , ..etc , and yet we still share the same problems and the challenges in life .
I am really glad to know you and others in WP , and I have no intention at all to leave .
its really hard to be put under a pressure like this , its not fair , that if you made a mistake someone else would lose his business , from what you said I see we are the same , working under pressure is a very tiring process , and very energy consuming , I will pray for you that you done this work safely .
about not knowing what expressions and body language means , this is my life problem , which I wish I would learn by mistakes how other NT means .
thank you a lot nutbag for your nice words , you are really a wonderful new sister I have , God Bless You
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From childhood's hour I have not been
As others were; I have not seen
As others saw; I could not bring
My passions from a common spring.
Thank you, Nagy, for your thoughts and concern. I am so happy and glad that you are here for good. AS is for all of us a difficulty. For it strikes at the heart of being human: At the ability to interact socially with our fellows. And I know that NTs too are our fellows. We are all far more alike than we are like anything else.
Still, while most of us have specific gifts: intellectual, artistic, logical, we also have this trouble with the very thing that might allow us to prosper in the reality of the world. and because we are the small minority, it falls upon us to fit.
I am 53. I have been here for a long time perfecting my abilities. But they are still anything but smoooth and automatic. Interacting still takes from me so much energy. And there are other internal issues as well. So I am up, I am down. I am always in transition.
I love WP because I can communicate where with my tribe. With my brothers and sisters. I see so much value here and in these people. And I know that my tribe is here to help all of us cope. And I am happy each time a new member signs up. One more person now knowing of his or her truth.
Nagy, thank you for being you!
Nagy,
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
Master of the Day of Judgement.
You (alone) do we worship, and Your aid we seek.
Show us the straight way,
The way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace,
those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
Another truth I discovered late in life.
By color an Amizight, perhaps from Siwa? Azul?
I am new here, it fits, nothing ever did before. Alone, isolated, thinking I the only one, then finding words in books written by kindred souls, The Prophet, Muhammad, Peace be upon him. Ibn Khaldun, a lesser man, but a light in my world. Being alone with Allah is better than owning the world.
Then I found WP. the Promised Ullma. I did not doubt, but I never hoped.
Here a people, a tribe, hardwired for Islam, troubled when pushed astray, but not knowing.
Allah is great, the last Prophet spoke only the truth, welcome my brother Nagy
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
Master of the Day of Judgement.
You (alone) do we worship, and Your aid we seek.
Show us the straight way,
The way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace,
those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.
Another truth I discovered late in life.
By color an Amizight, perhaps from Siwa? Azul?
I am new here, it fits, nothing ever did before. Alone, isolated, thinking I the only one, then finding words in books written by kindred souls, The Prophet, Muhammad, Peace be upon him. Ibn Khaldun, a lesser man, but a light in my world. Being alone with Allah is better than owning the world.
Then I found WP. the Promised Ullma. I did not doubt, but I never hoped.
Here a people, a tribe, hardwired for Islam, troubled when pushed astray, but not knowing.
Allah is great, the last Prophet spoke only the truth, welcome my brother Nagy
welcome to the wrong planet , where every aspie shall fit
but you got me all wrong
I am Christian , Coptic Orthodox
I was a muslim for two years , you can take me as an ex muslim too
and helping in Theological debates with muslims , and handing Faith to the new generations of ex muslims in Egypt ( which are persecuted in a very tough way from the islamic government we have )
but in any case , thank you for calling me brother ( I hope this lasts after what I said )
and my emails here if you want to contact me outside our planet at anytime
God Bless everyone here ( from all religions and believes )
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From childhood's hour I have not been
As others were; I have not seen
As others saw; I could not bring
My passions from a common spring.
Nagy,
One Universe, many visions, all are right, Muhammad speaks to me about this world, people living together, sharing the gift of life. I also have the Egyptian Book of the Dead, The Tibetan Book of the Dead, and no matter where you look from, we are all looking at the same thing.
My meaning is the same, Blessing upon you my Brother.
O' Benelovent gift waves of reality,
grant me the ability to know all things,
by seeing, hearing, and reflecting.