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Myrkabah
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26 Nov 2007, 1:54 pm

LadyBug wrote:
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Go see a doctor


Ditto. It has become a Du Jour diagnosis, and media hyped campaign for profit, more than ever before.


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Not random, go see a doctor.


Ah, I see. The two of you are suggesting that I see a doctor so that I can prove to you that I'm a 'real' aspie and not just a late hanger-on jumping onto the wagon. This would stand in direct contrast to a (currently hypothetical) situation of suggesting that I see a doctor for my own personal benefit and health and so that I can receive better guidance and support in learning to live more easily with who I am.

No thanks. I can assure you that I have exactly zero interest in proving my authenticity to you, or anyone else.



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26 Nov 2007, 1:56 pm

My thoughts on self diagnosis

I have two eyes - cool I could be a dolphin

I have a long kneck - maybe Im a giraffe

My arms have hair - maybe I chimp

I can't sing - Aw sh** I'm William Hung


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26 Nov 2007, 2:04 pm

TheZach wrote:
My thoughts on self diagnosis

I have two eyes - cool I could be a dolphin

I have a long kneck - maybe Im a giraffe

My arms have hair - maybe I chimp

I can't sing - Aw sh** I'm William Hung


I troll the Introduction forums of an Asperger's support site and call the integrity of those who are self-diagnosed into question because the increasing prevalence of the knowledge of Asperger's, what it is and people who recognize that they have/may have the condition threatens my sense of feeling individual or special due to being on that spectrum.

Maybe I'm TheZach!



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26 Nov 2007, 2:07 pm

No your not me - sorry.


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26 Nov 2007, 2:09 pm

Myrkabah wrote:
LadyBug wrote:
TheZach wrote:
Go see a doctor


Ditto. It has become a Du Jour diagnosis, and media hyped campaign for profit, more than ever before.


TheZach wrote:
Not random, go see a doctor.


Ah, I see. The two of you are suggesting that I see a doctor so that I can prove to you that I'm a 'real' aspie and not just a late hanger-on jumping onto the wagon. This would stand in direct contrast to a (currently hypothetical) situation of suggesting that I see a doctor for my own personal benefit and health and so that I can receive better guidance and support in learning to live more easily with who I am.

No thanks. I can assure you that I have exactly zero interest in proving my authenticity to you, or anyone else.


No, you don't have to prove anything to me. However, along with what I've mentioned, you might be interested to know some of the co-morbidities can be degenerative and permanent. Also, depending on your age and level of difficulties, there might be certain opportune moments for more rapid brain development, repair, or ability to find coping skills that can work for you.



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26 Nov 2007, 2:10 pm

May I add you don't even know me. Now go see a doctor.


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26 Nov 2007, 2:13 pm

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No, you don't have to prove anything to me. However, along with what I've mentioned, you might be interested to know some of the co-morbidities can be degenerative and permanent. Also, depending on your age and level of difficulties, there might be certain opportune moments for more rapid brain development, repair, or ability to find coping skills that can work for you.


It seems to me that if this was your intention, you would have stated your concern for my well being from the outset rather than leaving your commentary and reasoning at a veiled accusation that I'm jumping on the Asperger's bandwagon until after I'd already mentioned how messed up it is to be engaging in such behavior in the introduction forum of a support site for those with Asperger's.



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26 Nov 2007, 2:16 pm

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May I add you don't even know me. Now go see a doctor.


I know exactly as much of you as you have demonstrated in this thread.



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26 Nov 2007, 2:25 pm

Myrkabah wrote:
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No, you don't have to prove anything to me. However, along with what I've mentioned, you might be interested to know some of the co-morbidities can be degenerative and permanent. Also, depending on your age and level of difficulties, there might be certain opportune moments for more rapid brain development, repair, or ability to find coping skills that can work for you.


It seems to me that if this was your intention, you would have stated your concern for my well being from the outset rather than leaving your commentary and reasoning at a veiled accusation that I'm jumping on the Asperger's bandwagon until after I'd already mentioned how messed up it is to be engaging in such behavior in the introduction forum of a support site for those with Asperger's.


It's not veiled, there are those that have done exactly that, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, depending on the ultimate intentions. Ya see, there are impacts you might not care to see. One being of a recent lowering of benefits in the US. That might be a direct result of those who are supposedly able to cope and get by with simply fitting in to belong somewhere. There are many sides to the coin you can flip in this particular Du Jour for a diagnosis.

Okay, perhaps you expected a Welcome Basket upon entering a virtual community. But, make no mistake, I doubt in your REAL life that anyone is going to bring you a casserole if you have a nervous breakdown. You'd be lucky if they send you flowers for your hospital stay.

BTW, for all purposes, I am indeed Neuro-Typical and mentally healthy, in more ways than you can imagine. However, I've spent many years as a community volunteer and advocate, so I'm not trying to rattle and pull your chain for wanting you to prove yourself to me.



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26 Nov 2007, 2:27 pm

Its not messed up to be pointing out that people self diagnose themselves all the time incorrectly, or because they just want attention.


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26 Nov 2007, 2:30 pm

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Its not messed up to be pointing out that people self diagnose themselves all the time incorrectly, or because they just want attention.


Could I please see a published article or source which backs up your assertion that people self-diagnose themselves all the time incorrectly, or because they just want attention?

Peer-reviewed, please. I'm not interested in reading an op-ed today.



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26 Nov 2007, 2:30 pm

TheZach wrote:
My thoughts on self diagnosis

I have two eyes - cool I could be a dolphin

I have a long kneck - maybe Im a giraffe

My arms have hair - maybe I chimp

I can't sing - Aw sh** I'm William Hung


I understand your point. But why do you think that it's important?



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26 Nov 2007, 2:33 pm

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Okay, perhaps you expected a Welcome Basket upon entering a virtual community. But, make no mistake, I doubt in your REAL life that anyone is going to bring you a casserole if you have a nervous breakdown. You'd be lucky if they send you flowers for your hospital stay.


Not really a welcome basket, just some basic human empathy and respect.

Or are you actually suggesting that a terse "Go see a doctor" is an appropriate response to someone introducing themselves to a support community for a condition that is not only hallmarked, but almost defined, by the difficulty it causes in finding acceptance, understanding and empathy in interpersonal situations?



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26 Nov 2007, 2:44 pm

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I'm listening to the music now - I love it! Thank you for sharing.


Thank you for the feedback! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

I meant to tell you this earlier, but I've been a bit sidetracked in this conversation.



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26 Nov 2007, 2:44 pm

Myrkabah wrote:
LadyBug wrote:

Okay, perhaps you expected a Welcome Basket upon entering a virtual community. But, make no mistake, I doubt in your REAL life that anyone is going to bring you a casserole if you have a nervous breakdown. You'd be lucky if they send you flowers for your hospital stay.


Not really a welcome basket, just some basic human empathy and respect.

Or are you actually suggesting that a terse "Go see a doctor" is an appropriate response to someone introducing themselves to a support community for a condition that is not only hallmarked, but almost defined, by the difficulty it causes in finding acceptance, understanding and empathy in interpersonal situations?


Hahahaaaaaaaaaaa! You forgot "Theory of Mind" among other attributes, as it appears you haven't done research, which can be mistaken for a veil. No, it's not considered appropriate, depending on the culture of an area, and it sometimes has nothing to do with a disorder or mental illness. As for being terse, take into consideration that some are or were at one time non-verbal. Have some compassion and appreciation, because you might have gotten the enormous effort needed to put forth in giving a response, along with a further attempt to explain.



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26 Nov 2007, 2:51 pm

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Hahahaaaaaaaaaaa!


Is there an Ignore User function on these forums, anyone? Or perhaps the name of an administrator that I can PM to discuss this thread?