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Emettman
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25 Dec 2005, 5:08 pm

"I've had plenty of times where I'd be philosophically thinking about how much of a fine line there is between following a basic social or driving rule, not following it... "

Ha! That too. And a variety of other tangents more interesting but less immediately relevant than basic driving skills.

I can't blame medication in my case as I've been off them for three years (After 20 on a wide variety of types, and I'm no worse for the giving up)

Classic driving "rules of the game" is when I feel I probably should have stopped at an amber light, because I could have done so easily, but on inspecting my mirror being rather glad, as two cars have followed me through.



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25 Dec 2005, 7:08 pm

Emettman wrote:
I can't blame medication in my case as I've been off them for three years (After 20 on a wide variety of types, and I'm no worse for the giving up)


I can't say you should but I can say for myself that being on antipsychotics and SSRI's for 8 years it probably took 5 years of being off that stuff to really get my mind back and even now, I look at how I feel and sense the world compared to how I did when I was 9 or 10 and I still feel like my lucidity at times is a little shot up.


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25 Dec 2005, 7:52 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I can't say you should...


This was with doctor's approval, not just my own idea. In the latter years we were down to "Well, what haven't we tried yet?" and that included lithium purely "on spec", without real matching symptoms. I would be seriously tempted by a "happy pill" if one actually existed.

The question of whether lucidity is desirable has been raised before now...
Douglas Adams went there with his Total Perspective Vortex,
Terry Pratchett with knurd (So un-drunk that you see the world as it really is, without any comforting illusions), ...as well by as more formally recognised philosophers.

I recall a play (title lost) where the sound of heaven was weeping, as it was the only place where people who cared saw the world for what it was, as against what it might be.

Sorry, this is sliding in a philosophical direction.
Note to self: must move to a smaller universe of my own devising.
Thank you, Mr Adams.



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27 Dec 2005, 8:29 am

If we're talking about games outside of my CD Rom D&D stuff,
I would have to say I somewhat enjoy "mind games" with NT's, but only when they provoke it.
For some twisted reason I find it rewarding to successfully "warp" their perceptions of reality.



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27 Dec 2005, 10:27 am

Most everything I do is a game... :twisted:



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27 Dec 2005, 2:20 pm

strapshoechris wrote:
I somewhat enjoy "mind games" with NT's, but only when they provoke it.
For some twisted reason I find it rewarding to successfully "warp" their perceptions of reality.


You're not alone.
I used to wargame quite a lot., and an image and lesson from that comes to me.

If I go out on the open plains of the NT world, I tend to get cut up by the cavalry.
If I can tempt them into the woods and the rocks of my natural territory, full of twisty and complex thought, they haven't a chance.



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27 Dec 2005, 5:03 pm

I'm pretty competitive, but only participate in games where I know that I actually have a chance to win (I'm not going against Anand, Kasparov, Woods, Federer, etc.) and when I can comprehend the rules. The game has to have some kind of goal though; chess, checkers are good for the mind, football, athletics are good for the body and so on. Likewise, a game of 'spin the bottle' is totally uninteresting to me.



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28 Dec 2005, 5:37 am

Emettman wrote:
strapshoechris wrote:
I somewhat enjoy "mind games" with NT's, but only when they provoke it.
For some twisted reason I find it rewarding to successfully "warp" their perceptions of reality.


You're not alone.
I used to wargame quite a lot., and an image and lesson from that comes to me.

If I go out on the open plains of the NT world, I tend to get cut up by the cavalry.
If I can tempt them into the woods and the rocks of my natural territory, full of twisty and complex thought, they haven't a chance.


Right on, Emettman,
It's what they don't know and we do that does hurt them...